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Chapter Eight: The Pinckney Presidency
Chapter Eight: The Pinckney Presidency

In 1795, the Southern American Confederation paid close attention to its Northern neighbor. Southerners watched as the USA dismembered its historical alliance with France. To the people of the SAC, it was as if the Union forgot that if it weren’t for French interference, the North and South alike would still be dominated by British tyranny. Previously, Citizen Genet was expelled from Philadelphia and welcomed into Charleston by 1795. On the other hand, the thwarting of French-influenced Democratic Societies was seen as unconstitutional in the South. This move angered the North as they accused its neighbor of aiding a dangerous enemy. On July 16, 1795, Rutledge gave a controversial speech denouncing the United States’ Jay Treaty. He reportedly said in the speech "that he had rather the President should die than sign that puerile instrument" and that war was still on the table if the Confederacy felt provoked. He showed partial sympathy to the Southern Union states of Kentucky, Maryland, and Virginia.

Meanwhile, Rutledge’s presidency was viewed as in a mixed but positive-leaning light. He was not the most ideologically aligned person for the job (on some issues more than others) but was able to get the country functioning and rolling properly. His vice president Charles Pinckney of South Carolina had been floated as a possible candidate. Instead, he used much of his free time to campaign for his brother, Thomas Pinckney. During the Convention, he unanimously received the Nationalist nomination. He chose James Iredell of North Carolina as his vice-presidential running mate. For the Democrats, Edward Telfair of Georgia received the nominee once again with Johnston as his vice president. Ideological blocs already existed but they only officially became parties before the 1795 election. Since Tennessee was admitted as a state on June 1, 1795 and set up a legislature, it could participate in the election on November 4 and the tally of the votes a month later. Georgia and Tennessee electors predictably voted for Telfair while South Carolina chose Pinckney. North Carolina once again was a swing state, but due to James Iredell's campaigning efforts, all but two North Carolina's electoral votes were swayed to Pinckney. Due to the rules, Johnston did not become vice president but rather Telfair, creating a somewhat awkward situation.

On February 22, 1796, he stepped down as president and saw the swearing in of Thomas Pinckney. In his inaugural speech in Charleston, he covertly attacked the Jay Treaty, and called the Citizen Genet affair a major crackdown on liberty. On one hand, that’s what the Democrats from the Carolina back-country (who were a significant portion of white South Carolinians by 1796) wanted to hear from him. On the other hand, he sympathized to a degree with the Southerners (Maryland and Virginia) who stayed the Constitutional Convention thanks to George Washington and James Madison and felt their rights were being attacked. Nevertheless, he acknowledged in his speech that the US needed to do what it thought was in its best interest. Deep down, he wanted stable relations with Britain but acknowledged that the British could be a threat if the wrong button was poked as its influence in the North continued to grow. Great Britain's reputation among the Democrat majority had fallen apart, whereas his Nationalist self was personally not a big Francophile and even held mild British sympathies. Later in his speech, he cited the successful invention of the cotton gin in revitalizing the "Atlantic Cargo trade" which in turn contributed to significant cotton growth and boosts in cotton sales. As his speech ended, he received roaring applause.

His most famous act on a domestic policy level was the approval of the Bank of the Southern American Confederation. Unlike the Bank of the United States, which sought to create a common currency, establish credit, pay off war debts, and raise funds for the government, the primary function of the Bank of the SAC was to act as a facilitator of interstate and intrastate transactions between state-level banks. The bank, though, did take on responsibility for debts that were common to more than one state. All the states had their own currencies that were designed exclusively for in-state financial transactions. For interstate or national commerce, the people used Confederate Dollars. His new cabinet consisted of his former running mate, James Iredell, as Secretary of State, Samuel Johnston of North Carolina as Secretary of the Treasury, and his brother, Charles Pinckney, as Attorney General. On April 25, 1796, Spain ceded the northern half of Spanish West Florida to the SAC. That territory was transferred to Georgia and eventually to the Mississippi Territory in 1798.

After the American Revolution, Georgia was in too weak of a state to defend its vast western "Yazoo" land claims, named after the river flowing through its westernmost portions. Due to Georgia's weakness, the state legislature supported two unsuccessful speculation projects in the 1780s to try to establish counties in the western portions of the state. In 1789, the legislature sold approximately 25 million acres at 1 cent per acre to The South Carolina Yazoo Company, The Confederate Virginia Yazoo Company, and the Tennessee Company. The sale worth $250,000 was torpedoed after only six months from the initial sale date. The form of payment demanded was changed to gold and silver rather than paper currency, which there was an abundant lack of. By mid-November 1794, a majority favored the sale of the western Yazoo lands. On January 7, 1795, George Matthews, the governor of Georgia, signed the Yazoo Act, transferring the ownership of 35 million acres in present-day Mississippi and Yazoo to the Georgia, Georgia-Mississippi, Tennessee, and Upper Mississippi Companies for a total of $500,000. To achieve this, Georgia senator James Gunn made monetary and land arrangements with newspaper editors, state politicians, and other influential Georgians. This caused public outcry against bribery and corruption, with opposition swelling so that petitions were started and protestors took to the streets. completing their purchases. The purchases were still completed.

Learning of the Yazoo Act's passage, Georgian senator James Jackson returned home and was determined to overturn the sale. Once his party gained control of the state legislature, he dictated the terms of the Rescinding Act, signed by Governor Jared Irwin on February 13, 1796, nullifying the Yazoo sale. In 1798, the Georgia state constitution was revised to include the substance of the Rescinding Act. On April 7, 1798, the passage of a separate act authorized President Pinckney to appoint commissioners to negotiate land cessions with Georgia and for the creation of Mississippi Territory from former Spanish West Florida. Then, on April 26, 1802, the remaining northern half of the former Georgia territory was transferred to the Confederate government for $1.25 million and became an unorganized western territory (eventually Yazoo Territory).

With much of the domestic problems in the SAC tentatively solved, Pinckney and the rest of his administration turned their heads to the United States. Just as the American Theater of the War of the Second Coalition broke out in July 1798, the regional split in USA politics became even more obvious. The Southern and Western states, Republican Strongholds, opposed the war while Federalist-held New England and urban centers like New York and Philadelphia supported it. The SAC sympathized with their brethren in Kentucky and Virginia, particularly with slaveholders who had pro-SAC thoughts and used secession as a prominent political discussion topic. All it needed was a push. That push would perhaps come from the Thomas Pinckney administration. Vice president Edward Telfair had a potential plan in his mind. The president himself secretly feared for the worst but visibly appeared supportive when Telfair announced his plan to the Pinckney cabinet.

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Politically I'm also assuming you have some reunification people within both camps. They might want their side to absorb the other side.
I doubt the South has many people willing to unite with an anti slavery North. Maybe some " Greater South" revanchists after Virginia and Kentucky but that's about as far as they would go.
Should the north buy all that territory the South will be worried
Many Federalists opposed the Louisiana purchase and with the Dem-Rep South gone they would have far more influence.
 
So the US on the side of Britain barely twenty years after the revolution began? I assume theyll try to conquer the Louisiana territory
It technically did side with Britain during the Quasi-War in OTL. Without the South, which was the Democrat-Republican stronghold, then it would almost be a no-brainer as Britain was far more popular with the overwhelming majority of people in the North and East (especially in New England and the urban areas)
 
Perhaps they decide to split Louisiana between them. America gets the north and Britain gets the south, the US would get free passage on the Mississippi of course.
I haven’t gotten to who gets Louisiana yet. Probably not for at least a few chapters as the next will be about Great Britain’s whereabouts in the 1780s and 1790s and the one after that will be about the US Election of 1796 followed by the (much expanded) outbreak of the War of the Second Coalition in America.
 
Perhaps they decide to split Louisiana between them. America gets the north and Britain gets the south, the US would get free passage on the Mississippi of course.
It sounds like (I'm guessing here) that the North is siding with the British during the second coalition. The French should already be losing in Haiti. Should the south back France would the French be able to offer the south support? If anything it'll be the US and British Canada moving into French Louisiana. How would not having the sale of Louisiana affect the French war effort? If the French move troops from Haiti to the South how much of a help would it be? Could Haiti be tied into the American front? Any men drawn from Europe weakens the French response elsewhere. With the French sending a force in 1801 to Haiti will scare the US.
 
France would the French be able to offer the south support? If anything it'll be the US and British Canada moving into French Louisiana.
At this point it would still be Spanish Louisiana. So it would be Spain, France, and the SAC working together. Potentially
 

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Aside from slavery being abolished, women's and nonwhite suffrage being passed, IDK. I'm trying to do it as organically as possible as I go along. As to whether the South reunites with the North or not, I don't know.
Yep, I understand, but I mean would there be greater social safety net (like UHC) and regulations than IOTL?
 
Chapter Nine: The Empire That Never Sets
Chapter Nine: The Empire That Never Sets

The end of British rule over her thirteen North American colonies came on October 19, 1781 when the American continental and the French fleet jointly defeated the British at Yorktown, Virginia. Left with nowhere to turn to, British General Charles Cornwallis surrendered to George Washington. With that, the American Revolution came to an effective end. The not-so-invincible (when fighting overseas) British government was forced into negotiations to end the conflict, with negotiations culminating in the signature of the Treaty of Paris on September 3, 1783. Tens of thousands of Loyalists who had sided with the British, including former slaves, left the United States. Most of them went to British Canada, the British Caribbean, or even Britain itself. In 1792 alone, more than 1,100 freed slaves and their families who had previously fled to Nova Scotia settled in Sierra Leone in West Africa (established as a home for freed slaves on March 7, 1792).

To fill the colonial void, the British turned their eyes to the land down under. The Australian continent was first noted in 1768 as explorer James Cook led an expedition of HMS 'Endeavour' to an astrological phenomenon on the island of Tahiti. During his journey to Tahiti, he circumnavigated New Zealand and charted the eastern coast of Australia. Cook made two more voyages to the South Pacific before he was killed in Hawaii in 1779. Between 1718 and the end of the American war for Independence, Britain had transported its convicts to mainland British North America. Beginning on May 13, 1787, penal convict transportation resumed as a fleet of convict ships set out from Portsmouth for Botany Bay (off the coast of Sydney in New South Wales). By 1868, over 150,000 felons were exiled to New South Wales, Van Diemen's Land (present-day Tasmania) and Western Australia. In fact, most of its early settlers were British convicts.

Through colonization, slavery gave Britain plenty of blood on its hands. From the mid-1400s until the late 1800s, Europeans created a trade revolving African captives, forcibly transporting at 10-15 million Africans to the Americas and Europe. By the 18th century, Britain had become one of the most intensely-involved countries in the trade. In fact, Bristol and Liverpool were two of Europe's busiest slave trading ports. It wasn’t until 1772 when progress towards abolishing it began. After trying to escape from London, the slave James Somerset was captured and forced on to a slave ship that was bound for Jamaica. The case was taken to court and on June 22, Lord William Mansfield ruled in favor of Somerset’s freedom. This led most Brits to incorrectly assume that slavery was outlawed when it wasn't. The mistake did begin to set attitudes against the practice, however. After years of pressure from abolitionists and gathering detailed information about the slave trade, the first parliamentary investigation of the trade occurred in 1778. William Wilberforce became the spokesman for the cause in Parliament. There was mass public support for the abolition of the slave trade, as 103 pro-abolition petitions with up to 100,000 signature were sent to Parliament in 1788 alone. In May 1789, William Wilberforce introduced a bill to abolish the slave trade, but the effort was stalled. There were several more attempts to abolish the slave trade in Britain, but was not successful until 1807. Slavery itself would later be abolished throughout the British Empire in 1833.

On July 14, 1789, the storm of the Bastille prison in Paris took the world by storm and marked the general beginning of the French Revolution. One of the places most profoundly effected was Britain. Bastille and the overthrow and execution of King Louis XVI sparked political debate in Britain between pro-revolutionary Jacobins and loyalists who defended the existing British Constitution. While the French had been engaged in large-scaled warfare through Europe since 1792, it was not until the execution of Louis XVI in 1793 that Britain actively joined the series of anti-French coalitions. During this period of fighting, clashes between seamen and officers over pay and working conditions caused two mutinies to break out in the Royal Navy. There were fears that such disturbances might trigger a French-style revolution within the military and spread to the rest of Great Britain. One mutiny, near Portsmouth, ended with the crew being given a royal pardon while another mutiny, located on the Thames Estuary, was successfully starved out. One of its ringleaders, Richard Parker, was consequentially hanged. These were just two mutinies that occurred among several European navies in the 1790s. Another catalyst for a possible French-style revolution in Britain occurred at the turn of the nineteenth century. In 1799 and 1800, the government under William Pitt the Younger passed various laws that made it illegal for working men to discuss their political rights in groups. Ironically intentioned to stamp out any potential for a revolt, this only raised fervor instead. They were eventually repealed in 1824 and 1825.

The British had a problem child right on their own border: Ireland. For several years, Protestant settlers in Ireland attempted to gain some level of autonomy. This led to a movement led by the Society of United Irishmen, involving Catholics and Protestants across Ireland. On May 26, 1798, Wolfe Tone, a Protestant lawyer, led a rebellion by the Society of United Irishmen against British rule. The group recruited Catholic and Presbyterian supporters, but internal divisions made it difficult for everyone to work together. After failing to secure French assistance (unlike what had happened with British North America), the British forces ruthlessly crushed the rebellion. It came to an end as Tone was captured in October and sentenced to death. He committed suicide before his scheduled execution. Passed on January 1, 1801, the Act of Union created the United Kingdom joined by Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) and Ireland. The Irish parliament in Dublin was dissolved afterwards. Despite the Union, Catholics were still unable to vote at general elections or to hold seats in the British parliamentary and most public offices. The failed rebellion did, however, did inspire Irish republicanism which led to eventual independence for Ireland's 26 southernmost counties. Unlike Ireland, though, time after independence allowed the British to form an alliance with its former North American colonies during the War of the Second Coalition. Relations remained mostly positive relations afterward, which could not be said between the British and Irish.

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Also, the reason I put an excerpt of British history from 1780 to about 1800 is because the British are going to be major power players in the upcoming war. And the Presidential Election of 1796 and the John Adams presidency may be split up into two chapters because of the nature of the 1796 election.
 
Chapter Ten: The Rise of Political Parties and The Election of 1796
Chapter Ten: The Rise of Political Parties and The Election of 1796

During his tenure in office, President George Washington came to absolutely despise partisanship and political societies in general. The founding of over forty Republican Societies throughout the nation between 1793 and 1796 triggered fears of disorder among Federalists. While they stretched from New Hampshire to Kentucky, support was strongest in rural areas, the South, and the West. Most members of these societies were from laboring classes and strongly supported the French Revolution. Their primary mission was to disseminate political knowledge to encourage civic participation and defend against corruption. These Societies claimed to be non-partisan but were frequently criticized by political elites and Federalists for promoting factionalism and attempting to disproportionately influence public opinion and electoral politics.

Yet more Federalists were troubled by the passionate support for the French Revolution expressed by the Societies, whose leaders referred to France as a sister Republic. Federalist newspapers accused the French ambassador to the United States, Edmond-Charles Genet, of conspiracy against Washington's authority by forming these clubs. This led Washington to expel him from the USA. Accusations that the clubs contributed to the 1794 Whiskey Rebellion, coupled with Washington's vocal criticisms against them and the crackdown that followed, contributed to their rapid decline before the end of the decade. Washington feared that the Republican Societies were conspiring to topple the constitution in the name of popular sovereignty.

Washington received criticism for attacking public association by Republican leaders such as Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. Washington, however, was determined to restore order and received support from the Federalist majority. In his 1796 farewell address, Washington defended his rejection of Republican Societies. He declared that the idea of the people seizing power and establishing their own governments is counterproductive. He warned that popular associations of any ideology were likely to become dangerous machines that could become tyrannical in their own right in the name of popular sovereignty. By then, most of the Republican Societies had either disbanded or gone underground. Their ideology did not, though, and this led to the formation of the Republican Party by anti-Federalists before the 1796 Presidential Election. Federalists responded by coming together to form the Federalist Party.

Incumbent President George Washington set yet another precedent by refusing a third term having refused a third term in office. This caused the 1796 presidential election to become the first U.S. presidential election in which political parties competed for the presidency. The Federalists rallied behind Adams and the Republicans supported Jefferson. There were still multiple candidates per party though until the Twelfth amendment, ratified in 1804. The campaign was a bitter one, with Federalists identifying Republicans with violence and revolution, and the Republicans accusing the Federalists of being aristocratic monarchists. Republicans associated Adams himself with Alexander Hamilton’s policies and proclaimed them as too pro-British, particularly the Jay Treaty. Federalists alleged that Jefferson was an atheist, a coward, and too pro-France. In spite of the hostility in their camps, neither Adams nor Jefferson actively campaigned for the presidency. For their running mates, Adams selected Supreme Court Chief Justice Oliver Ellsworth of Connecticut and Jefferson selected Senator Aaron Burr of New York.

The election of the electors was held on November 4, 1796 and the Electoral College voted on December 7. Among the College, John Adams was elected president with 76 electoral votes as he swept New England and won votes from the Mid-Atlantic States. Ellsworth got 51 votes from the Electoral College and was elected Vice President. The Federalist ticket dominated the election. On the Republican side, Jefferson received 42 electoral votes from Kentucky, Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. Aaron Burr won 21 electoral votes. The remaining 32 electoral votes were dispersed among the other remaining candidates. This election established a rivalry between Federalist New England and the Republican South and West (including Pennsylvania), with the mid-Atlantic states (most crucially Maryland and New York) being swing states and holding the balance of power.

For the Federalists, the Election of 1796 was a major victory as they had consolidated power and dominated the executive, legislative, and judicial branches. Their ideology stood prominent throughout the majority of the country and it seemed that it would dominate for years. Radicalism would not be tolerated and amends would be made with the British if it meant peace. For the Republicans, it was a major defeat. It seemed as though freedom and democracy were quashed by the Northern and Eastern elites and the common man elsewhere would not be represented in their own country. To them, they would be perpetually ignored in favor of monarchist allies.

For Thomas Jefferson in particular, it was almost too much to handle. Rather than disband, he continued to take part in secret Society meetings and privately endorsed them behind closed doors. The political system was broken, many thought, so people began to demand taking action outside of the system instead of inside of it. Jefferson agreed. While he greatly sympathized with Jefferson, James Madison believed that the breaking point had not yet been reached and change can still be reconciled with the current system. The neutral Washington spent his last days of his presidency at the President’s Mansion in Philadelphia personally fearing for the worst. His Secretary of State was snubbed from the Capitol and worried that America had inadvertently created a monster. Only time could tell. Meanwhile, Adams was preparing for his inauguration in Philadelphia in 1797, already devising his agenda in his mind and writing his speech. Soon would be the end of one era and the beginning of another, and it would not be pretty.

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