at least one state will eventually secede from the USA and make it harder for it to access Florida.
Kentucky or Ohio? That might hinder access to the Mississippi River
at least one state will eventually secede from the USA and make it harder for it to access Florida.
Why didn't I think of that? Thanks. Webster is intriguing.Also, seeing as the US will be more dominated by New England and the norther states, I predict a Daniel Webster Presidency.Kentucky or Ohio? That might hinder access to the Mississippi River
I think we will see a two-term John Quincy Adams presidency.Why didn't I think of that? Thanks. Webster is intriguing.
Territorial expansion will exist although it may or may not be more hostile than OTL and British-USA relations will be different now that the SoCon (both that and SAC are internchangible here) acts as a rival.@PGSBHurricane, may I ask you questions on your TL?
- How would the formation of both the United States and Southern American Confederation might affect the OTL U.S. territorial expansion? Is it possible that France might split up Louisiana during the event of Louisiana Purchase that southern part, all the way to New Orleans may or not go to the Southern American Confederation while the northern part my go to United States?
- Would the United Kingdom and the United States without the original states like Georgia, South and North Carolina, and Tennessee might go on a different direction rather than OTL if it is possible?
The problem is that the US deciding groups aren't likely to want to spend a single penny for having just the North without its sea access in the South, at least not for quite a while. At some point they'd get interested probably, but the place might be not on sale anymore (if it ever was ITTL).Perhaps Northern Louisiana goes to the US and the Southern Louisiana could remain a colony. Keeping Louisiana out of the SAC would be much better for the slaves and poor whites.
Who's saying the US would pay for it?The problem is that the US deciding groups aren't likely to want to spend a single penny for having just the North
If they fight for it, then they can try going all the way to New Orleans anyway while they're at it (granted, success not guaranteed, but better logistics than a European opponent).Who's saying the US would pay for it?
I would think then, that the USA still has the same incentives to acquire Louisiana and I don't really see what the Southerners are going to do if they try. If they don't purchase it though, then what? Does it go to Britain? Do the North and South make a grab for it when France is busy in Europe so that it doesn't go to the British?Why exactly would the US even care at all if the Southern Confederacy acquires Florida?
Unless they become open enemies over something like a Southern-supported secession of Virginia.
Regarding Louisiana, the whole point of the Purchase IOTL was acquiring New Orleans and its surroundings as an outlet for Western US products shipped down the Mississippi. The US ITTL have no land anywhere in the vicinity, so it is unlikely they'd ask the French whether the place is on sale to begin with. No one seemed to particularly care about the Prairies up north (which either France or Spain may very plausibly be happy to sell, precisely because most of everyone outside the native living there considered the area near-worthless, and no one else was ever going to ask the Native their view on the subject).
They might still go directly for purchasing the whole thing all the way to New Orleans, but it is less likely that anyone thinks about such a purchase. And the Southerners are very likely to object.
Georgia and the Carolinas were particularly vocal about wanting to walk out of the Convention OTL if slavery was abolished or slaves wouldn't be represented. Not so much Virginia. But in a matter of chapters that might not matter.Just a quick question. Wouldn't the Carolina's and Georgia be unlikely to walk out of the convention unless Virginia did so? Virginia's political pull alone should keep all three states firmly in the Union so I would imagine that for the convention to breakdown Virginia would have to walk too.
Besides that I look forward to more updates
It isn't the worst thing I've seen on this site, so no reason to beat yourself up about it. Heck, I've written worse (coincidentally, also a Confederate victory timeline)It doesn't help that it's not that well-written.
Still nothing to be substantially proud of. Besides, I'm not really a person who's really into war history so neither the Great War nor Civil War were fun to write.It isn't the worst thing I've seen on this site, so no reason to beat yourself up about it. Heck, I've written worse (coincidentally, also a Confederate victory timeline)