This is my first official timeline,I will only do short summaries for each presidents term,I will be using President Infinity for the General Elections ONLY I will write the results of the primaries.
-Primaries won't be conventions and delegates,there will be one nation wide vote a national "Primary Day"
Somebody must win over 50% to win the nomination (two-round)
I wanted to start post Lincoln just to do it
-and the way of voting will be POPULAR VOTE. For General election it just has to be a majority of the vote.
-LINCOLN LIVES. Lincoln is not assassinated,a man spots John Wilts Booth with a gun nearing the President,and it is avoided.
 
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Does Reconstruction go the same as OTL?

If so you'll have mostly Democratic Presidents from 1876 through at least 1892. OTL the Republicans won the popular vote only in 1880, and then by the slenderest of margins. If we assume that the South is a bit more energetic in suppressing the Negro vote, then Hancock wins even in that one.

I'm not so sure about 1896, as I don't know how many Blacks were still voting by then; but it is at least conceivable that Bryan might be elected if they were kept away from the polls in sufficient numbers. In 1912 a great deal hangs on the Democratic National Primary. Clark may defeat Wilson, or Bryan may enter and beat both of them. On the Republican side, TR could win a national primary, but even if he does, enough Taftites probably abstain or bolt to ensure a Democratic win.


After that it's a long time before anything changes. Absent the Electoral College, 1916 won't be the cliffhanger we remember, as Wilson had a comfortable half-million vote lead. After that the next question mark is 1960, since it won't be possible to run unpledged Electors, so the segregationists will need a flesh and blood candidate (Orval Faubus?). If he takes enough Southern votes away from JFK, then Nixon could win. Of course, it is probably academic by then, as the National Primary will have resulted in a lot of the candidates being different from OTL.
 
Does Reconstruction go the same as OTL?

If so you'll have mostly Democratic Presidents from 1876 through at least 1892. OTL the Republicans won the popular vote only in 1880, and then by the slenderest of margins. If we assume that the South is a bit more energetic in suppressing the Negro vote, then Hancock wins even in that one.

I'm not so sure about 1896, as I don't know how many Blacks were still voting by then; but it is at least conceivable that Bryan might be elected if they were kept away from the polls in sufficient numbers. In 1912 a great deal hangs on the Democratic National Primary. Clark may defeat Wilson, or Bryan may enter and beat both of them. On the Republican side, TR could win a national primary, but even if he does, enough Taftites probably abstain or bolt to ensure a Democratic win.

Has to depend mostly on who he picks as the Presidential candidates though.

I mean, Grant 1869-1887 is a shoe-in. after that its a bit more of a problem, but that depends mostly on whether or not the author changes who the Presidential candidates are in his election game.

If not, as you said, Tilden wins in 1876, Garfeild wins in 1880, Cleveland wins in 1884, 1888 and 1892.....I won't go any further than that consideirng that its hard to tell what happens...
 
Has to depend mostly on who he picks as the Presidential candidates though.

I mean, Grant 1869-1887 is a shoe-in. after that its a bit more of a problem, but that depends mostly on whether or not the author changes who the Presidential candidates are in his election game.

If not, as you said, Tilden wins in 1876, Garfeild wins in 1880, Cleveland wins in 1884, 1888 and 1892.....I won't go any further than that consideirng that its hard to tell what happens...

I take it you mean 1869-77.

1880 is a toss-up. OTL, Garfield edged out Hancock by 9,500 votes out of some 9,000,000 cast, with 308,500 going to Greenbacker James B Weaver. So a lot would depend on whether any of Weaver's votes were cast differently, as well as whether suppression of the Black vote was greater or less than OTL.

In general, I would expect the Democrats to benefit in the pre-Civil Rights era. Besides Black disfranchisement, even Southern Whites voted in lower numbers than northern ones, due to the fact that only the Democratic nomination really mattered, with November being just a rubber stamp. Given a direct popular vote, they have a greater incentive to turn out.
 
1868 Election
-New popular vote system passed pre 1868 (read above)
-New Primary vote system passed pre 1868 (read above)

Republican Primaries

Lincoln just won the Civil War,and is extremely popular,he is unchallenged and chooses a new man for his VP,Maine Representative James G. Blaine
Republican Ticket: Pres. Abraham Lincoln/ME Rep. James G. Blaine

Democrat Primaries
Surprisingly only 4 people sought the candidacy for the Democratic Party nomination,with Lincoln being very popular everywhere except the deep south. A Former President,unpopular at that,won the nomination. Franklin Pierce,with Democrats believing only a former President could have a shot against Lincoln.
1st Round
(1)Fmr. Pres. Franklin Pierce:43.9%
(2):SCOTUS Stephen J. Field:27.4%
(3):Gen. Winfield Scott Hancock:20.1%
(4):John Q. Adams II:8.6%


2nd Round
(1)(W): Fmr. Pres Franklin Pierce:60.1%
(2):SCOTUS Stephen J. Field:39.9%


Republican Ticket: Pres. Abraham Lincoln/ME Rep. James G. Blaine
Democrat Ticket: Fmr. Pres. Franklin Pierce/Gen. Winfield Scott Hancock

General Election

With Lincoln very popular,victory was inevitable for the Republicans. Lincoln set fourth a plan for "rapid reconstruction",This angered Southerners. He also set fourth a plan to exile the rest of the Confederate leaders,something he was pushing for at the end of his last term,while some Republicans wanted them hanged. He also mentioned his plans to "Migrate African-Americans to the West,were they can start new lives and be safe and prosperous" Pierce called to end reconstruction which he said was "A detriment on states rights", Pierce also said that leaders of the CSA should not be punished,but "We're fighting brothers because they felt there rights were being infringed on,not because they were traitors". This made Pierce very popular in the South,but not so much in the North. Pierce constantly attacked Lincoln for the fact that he ever had the country go to war at the first place saying "True Leadership would have made the war never occur",Lincoln said it was many mistakes from past administrations. Lincoln attacked Pierces record when he was president saying "He was one of the worse leaders our country has ever seen,and now he thinks he can just come in here and think everything in his past is erased,that is not the truth!"

Election Day
Election Day is upon us,and it is Widely expected that President Abraham Lincoln is going to win re-election.
But not by nearly as much as initially thought.
Results:
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Next Up,Lincoln's third term.
 
Cabinet
Vice President-Rep. James G. Blaine
Secretary of State-SOS William Seward
Secretary of Treasury-PA Rep. James S. Negley
Secretary of War-Gen. George B. McClellan
Attorney General-MN. Sen. William Windom (Replacement Sen.-Morton S. Wilkinson
Postmaster General-NY Rep. Horatio Greely
Secretary of Navy-Gen. Winfield Scott Hancock
Secretary of Interior-Mr. Fredrick Douglas
Lincoln's third term
-Lincoln began to address dis-unity in the United States,Though he made great progress in his second term,there was still much to be done.
-Continued reconstruction,Focusing on safety for African Americans.
-Passes the 14th amendment. (1869)
-Passes the 15th amendment. (1870)
-Freedmen are given the vote by congress.(1870)
-Department of Justice is created.(1869)
-Signs and champions Naturalization Act (1870)

1870 Midterms (74 Senators,241 reps)

Senate:
Republicans-64
Democrats-10

House
Republicans-180
Democrats-61

-Signed the Force Acts (1870)
-Signed the Amnesty Act (1871)
-Signed the "Native rights Act" Which guaranteed rights for Native Americans and gave them the choice to become naturalized citizens (1872)
-Signed the Armed Forces buff act,which set to rebuild the Unions armed forces,and double the budget,and soldiers (1872)
-Denied to run for a fourth term

Overall Approval rating-59%
 
Aren't we getting into ASB land?

Lincoln was an old Whig, and traditionally they didn't believe even in two terms, let alone three. Had the war not still been in progress, he probably wouldn't even have run in 1864, never mind 1868. And why should the Republicans give him a controversial third nomination, when they have another national hero available in General Grant?

-Signed the Armed Forces buff act,which set to rebuild the Unions armed forces,and double the budget,and soldiers (1872)

That one is definitely ASB.

The Union has just come out of a horrendously expensive war, and no conceivable Congress, of any party, is going to voter the taxes for a large, purposeless army, when a small one is more than adequate for dealing with the Indian tribes, who are the only remaining enemy.

Having Lincoln as POTUS makes no difference here. If he starts trying to fund a big peacetime army, his popularity will evaporate overnight.
 
Aren't we getting into ASB land?

Lincoln was an old Whig, and traditionally they didn't believe even in two terms, let alone three. Had the war not still been in progress, he probably wouldn't even have run in 1864, never mind 1868. And why should the Republicans give him a controversial third nomination, when they have another national hero available in General Grant?



That one is definitely ASB.

The Union has just come out of a horrendously expensive war, and no conceivable Congress, of any party, is going to voter the taxes for a large, purposeless army, when a small one is more than adequate for dealing with the Indian tribes, who are the only remaining enemy.

Having Lincoln as POTUS makes no difference here. If he starts trying to fund a big peacetime army, his popularity will evaporate overnight.
What is ASB? And Morale is high because of the war victory,as you see his popularity is pretty terrible in the South,and the Democrats nominated Franklin Pierce,probably there worse option,but there thought on him was experience (even thought it is bad).
Also this is my first timeline,however I do appreciate the criticism,This timeline won't probably be that great,but hey I'll give it my best shot.
 
What is ASB? And Morale is high because of the war victory,as you see his popularity is pretty terrible in the South,and the Democrats nominated Franklin Pierce,probably there worse option,but there thought on him was experience (even thought it is bad).
Also this is my first timeline,however I do appreciate the criticism,This timeline won't probably be that great,but hey I'll give it my best shot.

ASB is short for "Alien Space Bats". It means that something is impossible - or at least so unlikely as to be not really worth discussing.

As for morale being high, it naturally was in 1865, but that's not going to make voters any more agreeable to paying for a peacetime army that they don't need. And Lincoln would be far too smart to suggest such a thing. He wanted the Union up and running again asap.

Your WI about a direct popular vote for POTUS is potentially very interesting, but imho you've chosen an unfortunate starting date, which gets it mixed up with Reconstruction issues which really need a thread of their own[1]. Maybe better to start it in 1876.


[1] Of which there have been many. It might be worth looking some of them up with the search function. Saves going over old ground..
 
ASB is short for "Alien Space Bats". It means that something is impossible - or at least so unlikely as to be not really worth discussing.

As for morale being high, it naturally was in 1865, but that's not going to make voters any more agreeable to paying for a peacetime army that they don't need. And Lincoln would be far too smart to suggest such a thing. He wanted the Union up and running again asap.

Your WI about a direct popular vote for POTUS is potentially very interesting, but imho you've chosen an unfortunate starting date, which gets it mixed up with Reconstruction issues which really need a thread of their own[1]. Maybe better to start it in 1876.


[1] Of which there have been many. It might be worth looking some of them up with the search function. Saves going over old ground..
I may just do an emergency Nuke on this thread,and just delete and change everything. 3...2...1
 
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