Just saw this now. Will definitely binge read this once I have time.
To quote the original Gotenland post:A question, is SS gotenland in your lore equivalent to TNO SS burgundy?
Man, Crimea sounds like the most evil place on Earth TTL.To quote the original Gotenland post:
"Ever since the German victory on the eastern front, the Crimea region had been a focus point for colonisation. With almost all of the local Ukrainian, Russian and Tartar populations killed or expelled, German civilian colonists arrived from the Reich by boat and train to the new territory to build a new life in the colonies. Reichskomissariat Gotenland became a 'jewel in the crown' of the Nazi eastern colonies, and both a civilian and military hub for the Greater Reich.
With the outbreak of the civil war in 1954, the region had been split between pro-Goering and pro-Himmler forces. Most of the peninsula was seized by the SS and its supporters, but key Wehrmacht points held out for a while. Fighting was brutal, as both sides wanted to hold this point both for propaganda and strategic purposes. In the end, the anti-coup position on the peninsula became unviable, and those that were not evacuated surrendered. By now, however, the war in the east had turned, Russian army remnants and partisans alike were rolling across the vast lands overrunning German positions of both sides of the civil war. Not too long after Himmler declared total victory in Gotenland, the peninsula was cut off from the outside world by Russo-Ukrainian armies. With the civilian government long dead, the local SS commander took full military control, and with no sign of relief, declared an independent Nazi state, the Germanic State of Gotenland.
SS rule was especially strict in this new state. Those few non-Germans that were left were annihilated soon after the nation's founding. All able-bodied civilians were conscripted either to defend the young state or to work to support the army in building and maintaining military infrastructure. Colonists who had enjoyed a luxurious seaside life only a few years before were now in a living hell, surrounded by enemies and fighting for survival.
The nation would only last for a few months, into early 1959, besieged by the forces of the Russian United Front. With the last friendly supply ships leaving, supplies of all kind slowly ran out, and constant Russo-Ukrainian assaults whittled down the defenders. Eventually, it was too much, and with food and ammunition basically non-existent, the defenders were powerless to stop the Russians storming the peninsula. Fortified positions in the south held out for a few weeks, but eventually even they fell.
Following the fall of Crimea, the Russians and Ukrainians began 'revenge' policies for the Nazi genocide. Every armed man was killed on the spot, and the rest of the population forcibly marched into concentration camps where they would be left to work and starve for the time being. With the eventual end of the war, only around 2% of the original German colonist population would return to Germany alive in the 1960s."
Yep, sounds exactly like Burgundy I remember.Colonists who had enjoyed a luxurious seaside life only a few years before were now in a living hell,
Sounds like Burgundy mixed with schoners program. Can it get any more cursed than that?All able-bodied civilians were conscripted either to defend the young state or to work to support the army in building and maintaining military infrastructure
So would Crimea end up like Tasmania: a place where the indigenous people are so eradicated, that the few survivors are locked up in human zoos?Crimea has less... expansive goals and influence than that other Burgundy. Though from what we've heard mod-TWR's Burgundy, if it is formed, also has less expansive goals and influence than that other Burgundy. There's also that, well, even with Heydrich in charge Crimea before the GCW and the Nazis losing eastern Europe is a much more pleasant place to live for its citizens - at the price of living on the bones of a completed total genocide and yet exposed to being cut off from the basis of your economy.
As I saw it, Crimea or 'Gotenland' was the one place where 'colonisation' was 'completed' as an experiment. The entire existing population is killed or deported off the peninsula and replaced by a German settler population, and it's turned into a German colonial outpost in the east. Obviously when Nazi Germany collapses, Crimea is put under siege and refuses to recognise the general German surrender, is eventually taken by Russo-Ukrainian attacks and American air support despite the local SS fighting to the last.So would Crimea end up like Tasmania: a place where the indigenous people are so eradicated, that the few survivors are locked up in human zoos?
Yeah that's on purpose, German forces occupy the channel islands as in OTL, but very soon after withdraw from them as one of the terms of the Anglo-German armistice of the same year. It becomes a pretty tense place over the next 10 years.Excellent work!
(One tiny nitpick - you have the Channel Islands occupied by Germany from 1940 to 1940)
Ah - perhaps just say "Occupied 1940" then?Yeah that's on purpose, German forces occupy the channel islands as in OTL, but very soon after withdraw from them as one of the terms of the Anglo-German armistice of the same year. It becomes a pretty tense place over the next 10 years.