Thoughts on Diana?

On my other thread when I asked about Diana many on here expressed alot of negative opinions about her.

Here in the US she was/is still quite the celebrity. We cannot ever forget Elton John singing "Candle in the Wind" about her.

"Good bye England's Rose" still brings tears.

so if she had problems what caused it? Was it her? Was it conflict with the other royals? Was it the press?

What are your thoughts?
 
My feelings towards her could probably be best summarised by looking at the character of Daisy in The Great Gatsby.
 
Nothing against the woman herself, but I don't like the cult of personality that grew up around her.
She did help to change attitudes on AIDS, but her work on AP land mines took a useful weapon away from our army without really stopping the trade or use of these weapons as the biggest producers of them did not sign the Ottawa Treaty.
 
While I have no love for the airhead, she was basically murdered by the jackal press in my opinon.

THe idea that it is cool to ruin the lives of famous people because they are famious is undefendable, in my opinion.

THe right to privacy has been crushed by an out of control media.

And the people that support the media on this are also to blame.
 

Thande

Donor
Probably the worst thing to happen to Britain since the Blitz (though, like the Blitz, lots of people seemed to enjoy it). Doesn't excuse the media for their crimes as Corbell implies though.
 
Shouldn't this really be in non-political chat?

That aside, I think she was like many people something of a mixed bag with both good and bad points. The reaction to her death was just embarrassingly awful though, a complete overreaction.
 
I like her better then any other English Royal. But maybe thats because she wasn't born of royalty. Or maybe she was, Its not a topic I care about. Although it did make me physically ill when all the American women were fawning over the Royal wedding.
 
Seatbelts

I always wonder why a bigger deal wasn't made of the fact that she wasn't wearing a seatbelt. The one survivor in the car was the only person wearing one. Now would that have made a difference? At the time some articles said yes, others no.

Imagine if it all turned on her using one bit of safety equipment. Could have been another legacy besides landmines.
 
she was kind of a crazy person, but she was hott so the media treated her as a rose, while sane non-pretty people stuck in her story got blasted by the media.
 
It's just the whole celeb thing that I found so offputting. Nothing against her personally. The media in this country really sucks though. I remember one newspaper put out a morning edition that was really slagging her off for her high living on board billionaire yachts and so on. Their evening edition on the same day was full of tributes. Made me laugh and feel sickened at the same time. But then that's what British tabloids do to you.
 

Sior

Banned
She was a reasonably attractive, averagely intelligent, typical young woman. Unfortunately she was of the right pedigree and Virgo intact, so she was a perfect brood mare for the royal fairy Charles. Being brought up as a minor aristocrat, she had no training in how to deal with the gutter scum press, she also had no help or support from the Firm (Royal Family). The pressure and lack of attention from Wingnut, too busy doing the beast with two backs with his butler, or telling Chlamydia that he wanted to be her tampax, sent her over the edge.
 
Oh What a Circus

But who is this Santa Diana?
Why all this howling, hysterical sorrow?
What kind of goddess has lived among us?
How will we ever get by without her?
 
My guess is that she thought Charles would be like any other normal husband - he would come home in the evening and they would share there day, have dinner together, talk about life, etc... When they had children he would share the responsibilities.

Turned out wrong.
 
I think the whole thing was a genuine tragedy really- she was manifestly unequipped to cope with the pressures of her role as a modern Royal, and was provided with absolutely none of the neccesary support, either from her own family or indeed the Royal establishment (though Price Phillip seems to have done his best), to enable her to manage the lifestyle.

It was a sadly inevitable collision between the fading world of minor aristocracy and debutants and the modern pressurised press environment, and a sad example of what happens when you try to impose a fairy tale on real life. Frankly, if she had been brighter she might have managed to impose her will on the situation, but she should never had been put there in the first place.

Lessons Have Been Learnt, clearly, and both with Camilla and with the Wills and Kate thing, the Royal Family has adapted and ensured that such a thing will never happen again. But for all that I never liked her much, thought the whole hysteria over her death was ridiculous, and think the whole "Queen Mother driving a White Fiat Uno" thing is laughable, it's dreadfully sad that somebody's life was destroyed in such a way, and I imagine a massive source of guilt for all involved.
 

mats

Banned
Althogh i have nothing against her, i wonder why she always recieves so kuch praise. I mean really, what did she ever do?
 

sharlin

Banned
I remember when she died, I came down stairs, wanted to watch some cartoons and got the message 'X channel is down, please go to sky news' I went 'bugger that' and went to Sky one and again 'X channel is down, please go to sky news'. No movies were on so I went to sky news.

"Princess Diana and Dodi Al Fayed died this morning in a car crash in Paris"

My reaction was 'Oh that was a shame' then I put the animated Transformers movie on.

She seemed to be a nice lady and had a good moral stance but we didn't need about 4 months of 24 hour news coverage of 'saint' diana.
 
No strong feelings either way when she was alive. Probably would have turned out alright if she had married anyone but HRH Charlie Boy.

Not so keen on the posthumous loony cult that happened after her death. (The Daily Express :D)

There was a cartoon in Private Eye at the time which neatly summed up the whole conspicuous compulsory grieving process.

A police constable on a house call is reprimanding the person who answered the door "According to our records, you are the only person in this street who does not appear to have purchased a copy of 'Candle in the Wind'."
 
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