...Those Marvelous Tin Fish: The Great Torpedo Scandal Avoided

If Really in OTL or in ITTL, it is a hard pressed navy that gets the radars out to the boats by *43.
I thought so too, til I re-read some of Blair: the SDs were in service in early '42, & the SJs in '43; with all boats at Pearl, they're gonna get retrofitted a lot sooner than OTL. And given mast-mounting is more/less a mandatory yard visit, better they leave the yard with them, so...

There is a design issue at play, here, too: namely, space for the mast. That implies a longer conning tower, which isn't a bad idea anyhow, crowded as they got, with all the new gear in them.
destroyers are also in short supply
Noted; my recollection is, this was past the point that was an issue. However, not really on-point here.
Mare Island and Bremerton look to be a certainty.
Mare Island was the OTL "go-to" for the Sub Force; AFAIR, Bremerton never entered the picture.
Might be. There is a lot of gray zone (contested waters) in the Central Pacific between Midway and the Japanese dominated waters in the years *42 and *43, and as far as the SWP is concerned, that starts from the east and north coasts of Australia in *42, 43, and early *44 and goes north to the boundary.
Contested isn't the same as facing hostile tincans or under hostile air. After all, the idea is to put gear & supplies ashore off P.I., which isn't exactly landing on a beach in Santa Barbara...;)
14 June 1942? Wow!
The work required isn't major: moving some equipment & piping, adding the racks & such. Details & finicky, but not a complete redesign of the aft room or anything. It could (probably) be done by follow yard engineers, but I'd guess it would be by EB & Portsmouth (either or jointly), then "handed down" to the follow yards for construction.
Double wow, I'll take that.
Most of the hard work is done, getting the hydraulics & such sorted, thanks to the Mackerels. Not to say there aren't potential operational headaches... (I'll mention something in a future update.) The conn space issue is one I'd overlooked, & that wants addressing; it might be the "remodelled" design should get a new class name, or maybe (as it becomes clear the conn needs lengthening), that's changed & a new name is assigned, starting around SS-250.

Also, don't forget, the radars in this period were troublous beasts, delicate & in need of constant attention, & frequently out of service for one cause or another. It'll be (minimum) a year before they're really reliable & useful for attacking with--unless ONI gets word of captured gear & BuShips gets on the ball working the bugs out. (I'll let you guess how likely I think that is.;))
Consumables? Lub oil, food, air scrubber filters, and other chemical stores; etc. Extended patrols might really crowed the boat with added stores?
Bear in mind, she'd have sailed jammed to the gills already. I had in mind an rdv with "mother" sometime around day 50 & taking on 20 days or so more fuel & stores. It also crossed my mind, after posting that, the long patrol would be less credible off Formosa (versus Ramage's OTL patrol in the Solomons): the limiter, as always, would be torpedoes, not stores, & even with 30, she should shoot herself dry before 83 days is up... Anybody disagree?
I'm going out on a limb here and suggest that submarine buddy tanking is not going to be encouraged within reach of Japanese LRMP aircraft or local IJN bomber air base reach?
Not under their noses, I don't think, but willing to part the hose(s) in a heartbeat if diving out from under is called for. Probably also an inboard control rig, so the hose can be fitted from outside, then flow in cut off as needed (to prevent flooding) from inboard; I'd guess an existing trim pump or something to do the work, maybe existing firefighting or pump hose doing double duty.
Robert English was a competent (actually excellent) administrator, but a lousy tactician and his grasp of the operational art in submarine warfare, as it was rapidly evolving around him, was still a bit archaic as I understand him.
I wouldn't disagree with that. Also not the strongest voice against wrong deployments (how much of that was him & how much Nimitz, IDK) nor against Nimitz's opposition to minelaying. English gets the job TTL as OTL, at Nimitz's request--& because Lockwood is still way, way too junior...;)

I look at the SWPA, with more opportunities, & I wonder if that's not where it takes hold--if it does. (I can dream.;))
 
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Radar masts up and down, how difficult to create and how soon?

I thought so too, til I re-read some of Blair: the SDs were in service in early '42, & the SJs in '43; with all boats at Pearl, they're gonna get retrofitted a lot sooner than OTL. And given mast-mounting is more/less a mandatory yard visit, better they leave the yard with them, so...

Well; I asked for it when I introduced the snort.

There is a design issue at play, here, too: namely, space for the mast. That implies a longer conning tower, which isn't a bad idea anyhow, crowded as they got, with all the new gear in them.

A streamlined true sail?

Mare Island was the OTL "go-to" for the Sub Force; AFAIR, Bremerton never entered the picture.

Who gets to make and fix all this stuff? Bremerton and its yard looks to be battlewagons, bird farms, and tin cans happy San Diego is out. But now we have nearly 250 boats ITTL running around instead of the ~ 200 historical in SubPAC. Mare Island is not big enough. So where?

Duck and cover.

Contested isn't the same as facing hostile tincans or under hostile air. After all, the idea is to put gear & supplies ashore off P.I., which isn't exactly landing on a beach in Santa Barbara...;)

Nighttime cross transfer? Dangerous and the IJN aerially were better ASW operators than we usually give them historical credit. They just did not dedicate anywhere near enough aircraft to the purpose, so RTL our historians did not notice it.

How daunting is the radar technology involved?

The work required isn't major: moving some equipment & piping, adding the racks & such. Details & finicky, but not a complete redesign of the aft room or anything. It could (probably) be done by follow yard engineers, but I'd guess it would be by EB & Portsmouth (either or jointly), then "handed down" to the follow yards for construction.

Judging by the patrol complaints, the work was not entirely successful. I think we are somewhere opposite ends here. I may overestimate, but I think you may underestimate some of the issues. Compromise?

Most of the hard work is done, getting the hydraulics & such sorted, thanks to the Mackerels. Not to say there aren't potential operational headaches... (I'll mention something in a future update.) The conn space issue is one I'd overlooked, & that wants addressing; it might be the "remodelled" design should get a new class name, or maybe (as it becomes clear the conn needs lengthening), that's changed & a new name is assigned, starting around SS-250.

Mackerel snorts with radar add-ons have to be modified in service? And you can have your "sail" as a result.

Also, don't forget, the radars in this period were troublous beasts, delicate & in need of constant attention, & frequently out of service for one cause or another. It'll be (minimum) a year before they're really reliable & useful for attacking with--unless ONI gets word of captured gear & BuShips gets on the ball working the bugs out. (I'll let you guess how likely I think that is.;))

Not very if your opinion of them is like mine of BuAer.

Stowables.

Bear in mind, she'd have sailed jammed to the gills already. I had in mind an rdv with "mother" sometime around day 50 & taking on 20 days or so more fuel & stores. It also crossed my mind, after posting that, the long patrol would be less credible off Formosa (versus Ramage's OTL patrol in the Solomons): the limiter, as always, would be torpedoes, not stores, & even with 30, she should shoot herself dry before 83 days is up... Anybody disagree?

Not really, but I'm always looking at elbow room. US boats were cramped. I know that does not sound true compared to German, British, or Italian boats but US boats were laid out as HFE exercises and they were cramped for that very purpose.

Hosing the enemy (fuel transfer)

Not under their noses, I don't think, but willing to part the hose(s) in a heartbeat if diving out from under is called for. Probably also an inboard control rig, so the hose can be fitted from outside, then flow in cut off as needed (to prevent flooding) from inboard; I'd guess an existing trim pump or something to do the work, maybe existing firefighting or pump hose doing double duty.

Kinking, binding and collision hazards and hull bumping. The subs need some way to prevent that problem. They ride low to the water and the fuel lines cannot be boomed over.

Uhm, deployments, meddling, English, (both senses of the word), and the divided sub areas command.

I wouldn't disagree with that [assessment McP.]. Also not the strongest voice against wrong deployments (how much of that was him & how much Nimitz, IDK) nor against Nimitz's opposition to minelaying. English gets the job TTL as OTL, at Nimitz's request--& because Lockwood is still way, way too junior...;)

I want that plane crash.

Minelaying in the SWP.

I look at the SWPA, with more opportunities, & I wonder if that's not where it takes hold--if it does. (I can dream.;))

Hmm. The Mackerels do have stern tubes and they are running around doing "specials". We'll see?
 
Radar masts up and down, how difficult to create and how soon?
It's hydraulic lines & motors, but also waveguides & wiring & space in the mast well for it all, so not (quite) as simple as a periscope (which is self-contained). That said, it won't be enormously longer than for the Mackerels (which I'm presupposing are on a schedule just behind the Gatos & ahead of the Manitowoc boats), so the first "improved Gato" with an as-built mast should be in service around Sept '42 (as I'm reading the timing of everything).

If you've got the Mackerels a lot sooner than I'm understanding, tho, there are a couple of problems with what's done already: one, the Gatos should have had the mast as-built from the start, & two, the S-boats should already be retired as redundant.
A streamlined true sail?
For the Mackerels, that might (barely) make sense, but I'd say no: easier to see, & more radar return. Take a look at the typical 1942-3 silhouette. The casing's not cut down because the Navy can't afford it.;)
Who gets to make and fix all this stuff? Bremerton and its yard looks to be battlewagons, bird farms, and tin cans happy San Diego is out. But now we have nearly 250 boats ITTL running around instead of the ~ 200 historical in SubPAC. Mare Island is not big enough. So where?
I was going to suggest Dago, but... San Pedro? I'm guessing expansion in San Fran is a no-go. Oz does have the space, but not the expertise...
Nighttime cross transfer? Dangerous and the IJN aerially were better ASW operators than we usually give them historical credit. They just did not dedicate anywhere near enough aircraft to the purpose, so RTL our historians did not notice it.
Maybe I'm not giving them enough credit, true, but I'm also presuming a "minimum hazard" environment is step 1: if there's even perceived air threat (forget a/c being seen around, as the evo is to commence), the schedule (or location) will change--take no chances being caught with hatches open. Hoses, maybe; as said, let them part & shut the inputs--& if they're running hoses down the hatches, see above.;)
How daunting is the radar technology involved?

Judging by the patrol complaints, the work was not entirely successful. I think we are somewhere opposite ends here. I may overestimate, but I think you may underestimate some of the issues. Compromise?
We may be talking about two different things, here. The mast mounted radar is going to be a finicky, troublous, delicate instrument well into 1943. The "grunt work" is for making space aft for more torpedoes, which isn't (to coin a phrase) radar science.
Mackerel snorts with radar add-ons have to be modified in service? And you can have your "sail" as a result.
You really don't. Again, take a look at a '42 silhouette, then add another periscope, & you have the idea.
Not very if your opinion of them is like mine of BuAer.
That's about it.;)
I'm always looking at elbow room.
The other option is starting patrol with less aboard (except fuel), but that strikes me as a bad idea, given rdvs can go bad. It was tight, but not insane, from how Beach describes it. I've given the "remodelled" boats as much improved creature comfort as I think is reasonable (didn't mention a standard ice cream maker, but I'd give 'em one, if I had the contract;)); the longer conn is in the same vein: that was mentioned as cramped, & when a USN sub sailor is complaining about that...:eek:
Kinking, binding and collision hazards and hull bumping. The subs need some way to prevent that problem. They ride low to the water and the fuel lines cannot be boomed over.
I'm not going to say it's as easy as alongside the jetty, but possible.
Uhm, deployments, meddling, English, (both senses of the word), and the divided sub areas command.

I want that plane crash.
It was June '42. I couldn't reasonably have Fife & English on the same flight & put Lockwood in the job, or I would've.;) (And I'd happily have had Christie with them, too, to be clear.;)) I may push English's encounter with a mountain back a bit; can't have all the good luck going one way, after all...
Hmm. The Mackerels do have stern tubes and they are running around doing "specials". We'll see?
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BTW, for all the likes I've gotten, I want to thank everybody. That's very gratifying.:cool:
 
It's hydraulic lines & motors, but also waveguides & wiring & space in the mast well for it all, so not (quite) as simple as a periscope (which is self-contained). That said, it won't be enormously longer than for the Mackerels (which I'm presupposing are on a schedule just behind the Gatos & ahead of the Manitowoc boats), so the first "improved Gato" with an as-built mast should be in service around Sept '42 (as I'm reading the timing of everything).

Bit more involved. Ring bushings, water-tightness of the cable runs, antenna geometry which involves a compromise between ideal wave guide form and something that can be pulled down into the well. An aerial equipped with a such a gizmo such as spring loaded flip "ears" for example can double signal sensitivity thresh-hold [doubles acquisition range for lay-people]. Then there is the rotator motor which puts out its own radio noise. This aggravates the added problem of crowding because air search requires one freq band and surface search uses another freq band, the ESM mast (radar warning receiver which has to be tunable) requires another whole set of radiated noise filters, because despite being a receiver, it radiates or "bleeds" radio waves, too; and all of them (even the ESM) radiate in a smeared fashion, bleed over, overlapping and interfering locally with each other because WW II tuning is still analog and not digital, so that has to be cleaned up somehow and then there is the side-lobe signal noise bleed from the prime radiators in use (more than one usually)... and the poor radioman/signaler has to be trained on all of it, and also on UHF/VHF which also interferes with the other "radio" equipment. Take a breath. AND it all has to be made seawater proof. Whew.

If you've got the Mackerels a lot sooner than I'm understanding, tho, there are a couple of problems with what's done already: one, the Gatos should have had the mast as-built from the start, & two, the S-boats should already be retired as redundant.

As I time it, in order for the Mackerels to be part of the Two Ocean Navy Bill, the design has to be *36 and *37, the prototypes in 38-39 (18 months keel to wet), and the first 25 (9 month Kaiserized wonders) in 40-42. Gatos still have priority over them; after the carriers because fleet boats (*35) are sure things and are suited for the Pacific as the USN understands it, while the Mackerels are a huge "if". The battleships, and the cruisers have priority over the Gatos. This ITTL as in the OTL; I suggest the subs are not pushed as hard as they should be, because we still have the same cast of Buships and OP-20G actors who boloed the ramp up to WW II.

For the Mackerels, that might (barely) make sense, but I'd say no: easier to see, & more radar return. Take a look at the typical 1942-3 silhouette. The casing's not cut down because the Navy can't afford it.;)

Low and long? Sure but, streamlining that conning tower case adds a knot underwater. Less drag also prolongs time on the battery at creep. I already have heartburn about the bandstand and the Oerlikon, but I included it for good WW II reasons. Same for the deck gun. Too early for electro-boats and those deck guns are still matters of life and death to have in 1940.

I was going to suggest Dago, but... San Pedro? I'm guessing expansion in San Fran is a no-go. Oz does have the space, but not the expertise...

The bottleneck is railroad access for continental transshipment from east coast to west coast for large parts and sub assemblies. San Pedro is good. Anything that can be used in San Pablo Bay near Vallejo or is that too shallow?

Maybe I'm not giving them enough credit, true, but I'm also presuming a "minimum hazard" environment is step 1: if there's even perceived air threat (forget a/c being seen around, as the evo is to commence), the schedule (or location) will change--take no chances being caught with hatches open. Hoses, maybe; as said, let them part & shut the inputs--& if they're running hoses down the hatches, see above.;)

Hell no! Not through the hatches. Outer hull casing pass-throughs with slam-valves for intake and same for strong-back tanks. The hoses can be quick disconnects at both ends with the hoses being throwaways if necessary. The idea is to make it quick, make it as safe as possible and to avoid kink, snarl and alongside bump and scrape. Float lines might do it?

We may be talking about two different things, here. The mast mounted radar is going to be a finicky, troublous, delicate instrument well into 1943. The "grunt work" is for making space aft for more torpedoes, which isn't (to coin a phrase) radar science.

HFER actually. (See above. ^^^^)

You really don't. Again, take a look at a '42 silhouette, then add another periscope, & you have the idea.

Just how crowded are we making it? Radars need room, too, you know? (See above about "signal confliction".)

That's about it.;)

Read my appended comments about BuAer and then we'll be on the same channel.

The other option is starting patrol with less aboard (except fuel), but that strikes me as a bad idea, given rdvs can go bad. It was tight, but not insane, from how Beach describes it. I've given the "remodelled" boats as much improved creature comfort as I think is reasonable (didn't mention a standard ice cream maker, but I'd give 'em one, if I had the contract;)); the longer conn is in the same vein: that was mentioned as cramped, & when a USN sub sailor is complaining about that...:eek:

I'd give them a clothes washer/dryer, better shower facilities, and if I could squeeze it in, a small hamster compartment for exercise to keep them from going nuts. That is worth a pair of torpedoes to me. Ice cream maker went out when we started this thread, remember? We spent the 1930s USN ice cream budget on fixing the torpedoes.

I'm not going to say it's as easy as alongside the jetty, but possible.

How easy? I've only done it once in the Atlantic as a cross over from one transport to another and it was not easy. Of course it was the Atlantic... :pensive:

It was June '42. I couldn't reasonably have Fife & English on the same flight & put Lockwood in the job, or I would've.;) (And I'd happily have had Christie with them, too, to be clear.;)) I may push English's encounter with a mountain back a bit; can't have all the good luck going one way, after all...

:cool::cool:

A lot of good staff went down with him, remember? I would prefer he be assigned to BuPers. As I said, he was an excellent administrator. Waste not, want not.
BTW, for all the likes I've gotten, I want to thank everybody. That's very gratifying.:cool:

You deserve them.

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Now about BuAer.

About now, in this ITTL with the modest changes made to the Devastator, we've established (I think) that the USN aircraft procurement program as regards torpedo planes was a complete joke and almost an utter disaster.

Some of the problems I have with these people go back to Billy Mitchell and the Army Air Corps and the inter-service politics that led to their policy decisions that robbed the USN of stuff that not even the RN Fleet Air Arm gave up.

I can summarize it this way.

A. While the RAF and the RN squabbled over who would have control of aircraft procurement, both of them agreed that land-based anti-shipping aircraft, specifically torpedo bombers , would be a good idea. Their fight was who would buy and fly them. Guess what neither the Army Air Corps or the US Navy had?

Right, an antishipping strike aircraft. Kenney (5th Air Force) would improvise out of the job-lot of medium bombers he was supplied, but when you think of the Japanese offensives in the SWP that sprang from land based airfield to airfield and how Allied seapower was neutralized by Rikko units, it makes me frustrated that the US does not have an equivalent to Coastal Command or the Japanese Rikkos. For Murphy's sake the Regia Aeronautica got it right.

So... about the USNAS Coast Defense Squadrons.... VCS(R) 1-10

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That should fix that problem...


Specifications (A-20G-20-DO AAF: STBD-2 USNAS)

Data from McDonnell Douglas Aircraft since 1920

General characteristics
  • Crew: 3
  • Length: 47 ft 111⁄7/8 in (14.63 m)
  • Wingspan: 61 ft 4 in (18.69 m)
  • Height: 17 ft 7 in (5.36 m)
  • Wing area: 464 ft² (43.1 m²)
  • Empty weight: 16693 lb (7708 kg)
  • Loaded weight: 24127 lb (10964 kg)
  • Powerplant: 2 × Wright R-2600-23 "Twin Cyclone" radial engines, 1,600 hp (1,200 kW) each
Performance
  • Maximum speed: 317 mph (276 kn, 510 km/h) at 10,700 ft (3,260 m)
  • Cruise speed: 256 mph (223 kn, 412 km/h)
  • Range: 945 mi (822 nmi, 1,521 km) (Combat range)
  • Service ceiling: 23,700 ft (7,225 m)
  • Climb to 10,000 ft (3,050 m): 8.8 min
Armament
  • Guns:
    • 6× fixed forward firing 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns in the nose
    • 2× 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns in dorsal turret
  • Bombs: 4,000 lb (1,800 kg)
  • or 2 Mark XIII torpedoes.
Now I'm more happy (somewhat) about that little problem.

B. Then, there is the carrier borne aviation half of the problem. I tweaked the Devastator a little bit to make it work; but as you will soon see (Coral Sea) it will come at a fearsome price. In this ITTL, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Everything has (often negative) consequences.

The Avenger was a fine bomb truck and it was the workhorse of the Pacific;

Specifications (TBF Avenger)


General characteristics
  • Crew: 3
  • Length: 40 ft 11.5 in (12.48 m)
  • Wingspan: 54 ft 2 in (16.51 m)
  • Height: 15 ft 5 in (4.70 m)
  • Wing area: 490.02 ft² (45.52 m²)
  • Empty Weight: 10,545 lb (4,783 kg)
  • Loaded weight: 17,893 lb (8,115 kg)
  • Powerplant: 1 × Wright R-2600-20 Twin Cyclone radial engine, 1,900 hp (1,420 kW)
Performance
  • Maximum speed: 275 mph[32] (442 km/h)
  • Range: 1,000 mi (1,610 km)
  • Service Ceiling: 30,100 ft (9,170 m)
  • Rate of Climb: 2,060 ft/min (10.5 m/s)
  • Wing LoadingWing loading: 36.5 lbf/ft² (178 kg/m²)
  • Power/Mass: 0.11 hp/lb (0.17 kW/kg)
Armament

but there was another contender;

Specifications (TBY Sea Wolf)[edit]

General characteristics

Performance
Armament
  • 1 × .50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine gun in cowling
  • 2 × .50 in machine gun in the wings
  • 1 × .50 in machine gun in dorsal turret
  • 1 × .30 in (7.62 mm) M1919 Browning machine gun in ventral mount
  • Up to 2,000 lb (910 kg) of bombs or one torpedo
Now this bird could carry British as well as American torpedoes. It also had more endurance minutes at cruise (was longer ranged) than the Avenger, was a bit faster and was more agile at its best altitude though it was a sluggard in the climb and it was a very heavy bird on the controls. Anyway, given a choice between a Pratt and a Curtiss, go with Pratt every time.

Why was it not in service? Grumman had a six month lead on Consolidated, the first Sea Wolf crashed, setting the program back a year, but frankly... RADM John H. Towers, (June 1, 1939 – October 6, 1942) bungled this program along with everything else he touched while he headed up BuAer. He was a ROTTEN administrator and a poor decision maker. He would bring that terrible lack of talent to PACFlt and bedevil Nimitz with it for the entire Pacific War. THERE is the man who should have been on the Panama Clipper instead of Robert English.
 
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Bit more involved. Ring bushings, water-tightness of the cable runs, antenna geometry which involves a compromise between ideal wave guide form and something that can be pulled down into the well an aerial equipped with a such a gizmo such as spring loaded flip "ears" for example can double signal sensitivity thresh-hold [doubles acquisition range for lay-people] and the rotator motor which puts out its own radio noise and the added problem of crowding because air search requires one freq band and surface search uses another freq band, the ESM mast (radar warning receiver which has to be tunable) requires another whole set of radiated noise filters and all of them (even the ESM) radiate, bleed over and interfere locally with each other because WW II tuning is still analog and not digital, so that has to be cleaned up somehow and the side-lobe noise bleed... and the poor radioman/signaler has to be trained on all of it, and also on UHF/VHF which also interferes with the other equipment. Take a breath. AND it all has to be made seawater proof. Whew.
Okay, I need another breath. Whew. However...all solvable, in peacetime, with time to work, even allowing for the Usual Gang of Idiots.:rolleyes:
As I time it, in order for the Mackerels to be part of the Two Ocean Navy Bill, the design has to be *36 and *37, the prototypes in 38-39 (18 months keel to wet), and the first 25 (9 month Kaiserized wonders) in 40-42.
Given the mast has the attendant issues you catalog above, I'm suggesting first build is Shad, Silversides, or Trigger, maybe as late as Wahoo; if more complicated, as late as Gunnel (which is still not real late, in the scheme of things).
Low and long? Sure but, streamlining that conning tower case adds a knot underwater. Less drag also prolongs time on the battery at creep. I already have heartburn about the bandstand and the Oerlikon, but I included it for good WW II reasons. Same for the deck gun. Too early for electro-boats and those deck guns are still matters of life and death to have in 1940.
Don't think the benefit merits. I'm of the view the deck guns are worth keeping, in this era, & moreso as the war goes on & targets worth a torpedo get scarcer. Even more in SWPA & off Japan proper, IMO: lots of small local traffic, or barges in SWPA.
The bottleneck is railroad access for continental transshipment from east coast to west coast for large parts and sub assemblies. San Pedro is good. Anything that can be used in San Pablo Bay near Vallejo or is that too shallow?
Allowing you only need about 15' keel depth (no suction for cooling), this quick look suggests it might be possible--just.
Hell no! Not through the hatches. Outer hull casing pass-throughs with slam-valves for intake and same for strong-back tanks. The hoses can be quick disconnects at both ends with the hoses being throwaways if necessary. The idea is to make it quick, make it as safe as possible and to avoid kink, snarl and alongside bump and scrape. Float lines might do it?
That sounds right, direct feed to the existing tanks.
Just how crowded are we making it? Radars need room, too, you know? (See above about "signal confliction".)
That's it: you're adding equipment in the space, plus an operator. It starts to get tight, enough I've seen some complaints how bad it was later in the war. That's why I suggest a longer conn: it solves that, with some risk of increased detection, & some risk of increased weakness (which will have to be experienced to be eliminated).

Edit: That's presuming the mast is mounted at the after end of the conn & doesn't actually take space out of the control room, like the 'scope wells do.
Read my appended comments about BuAer and then we'll be on the same channel.
I think we were from the start, just not copying all every time.;)
I'd give them a clothes washer/dryer, better shower facilities, and if I could squeeze it in, a small hamster compartment for exercise to keep them from going nuts. That is worth a pair of torpedoes to me. Ice cream maker went out when we started this thread, remember? We spent the 1930s USN ice cream budget on fixing the torpedoes.
Notice I said, "if I had the contract".;) I've given 'em what I can--I have confidence the skippers & crews can scrounge up ice cream machines if they really wan't 'em. (Or slot machines, for that, which I might also install, if they weren't illegal.;) {Not that it stopped at least one skipper...whose name I can't recall.:oops:})
How easy? I've only done it once in the Atlantic as a cross over from one transport to another and it was not easy. Of course it was the Atlantic... :pensive:
It's all relative. IMO, it can be done.
A lot of good staff went down with him, remember? I would prefer he be assigned to BuPers. As I said, he was an excellent administrator. Waste not, want not.
I could live with it, except I can't find a good excuse to transfer him...
About now, in this ITTL with the modest changes made to the Devastator, we've established (I think) that the USN aircraft procurement program as regards torpedo planes was a complete joke and almost an utter disaster....
These are all handsome indeed.:cool:
Why was it not in service? Grumman had a six month lead on Consolidated, the first Sea Wolf crashed, setting the program back a year, but frankly... RADM John H. Towers, (June 1, 1939 – October 6, 1942) bungled this program along with everything else he touched while he headed up BuAer. He was a ROTTEN administrator and a poor decision maker. He would bring that terrible lack of talent to PACFlt and bedevil Nimitz with it for the entire Pacific War. THERE is the man who should have been on the Panama Clipper instead of Robert English.
:mad::rolleyes:
You deserve them.
TYVM.:cool:

With that, because of another mistake on my part (relying on memory & not reading her entire history first...:oops::oops:), I have to retcon Cachalot: she had the MANs replaced in 1937... So consider that invalid. The fix will be for Sargo, & will include the radar mast & aft room, too.
 
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Instead of the A20, you could move up the A 26 by a few months. It could carry 4000 in the bomb bay like your model but also had two 1000 pound hard points under each wing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A-26_Invader

"We do not want the A-26 under any circumstances as a replacement for anything."
George Kenney 5th Air Force.

O'Leary, Michael. "Database:Douglas Invader". Aeroplane, May 2002, Vol. 30, No.5, pp. 37–58. London: IPC.

The reason was simple. The plane's cockpit windshield was so restrictive, the pilots could not see where they were relative to the horizon and could not orient for low level attack as they could with the Mitchell or the Havoc. Therefore Havocs.

Might try this:

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Why not...

...Send a maintenance and repair company to Oz to carry out the mods?

This involves a complicated answer.

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Australia's Pearl Harbor.

Darwin, however, was no Pearl Harbor—at least not in terms of its military importance. For starters, the harbor was not home to a powerful armada of warships. It was rather cramped, had a bottle-necked entrance with a single L-shaped pier and lacked the floating dry docks and other repair facilities that made America’s Hawaiian bastion so valuable a target. Nor were there numerous airfields nearby, packed with squadrons of fighters, bombers and transport aircraft. Indeed, the single small Royal Australian Air Force field at Parap, just north of Darwin proper, was little more than a refueling depot and maintenance facility. On the day of the raid it was home to just five CAC Wirraway armed trainers, none of which was serviceable, and a handful of twin-engine Lockheed Hudson light bombers. Ten U.S. Army Air Corps Curtiss P-40E Warhawk fighters (see P. 22) had taken off from the field early that morning en route to Java via Timor but had run into foul weather and were on their way back.

Nor was Darwin bristling with the sort of anti-aircraft defenses that had protected Pearl Harbor. Indeed, there were only 18 guns in and around the Australian town that could reach airplanes flying at 20,000 feet, most of them 3.7-inch quick-firing weapons, plus a scattering of World War I Lewis machine guns for use against strafers. Most of the Lewis guns were mounted on improvised wooden stakes hammered into the ground.

And Darwin was no Honolulu. Town itself was tiny; a saloon-dotted frontier outpost literally on the fringe of civilization, cut off from the rest of Australia but for a single dirt track to Alice Springs, the lonely town amid the vast area Australians refer to as the back of beyond. Darwin, according to one Australian journalist, was being used as a “military Siberia.” Soldiers and sailors assigned to the city soon “went troppo,” symptoms of which might include throwing sticks to an imaginary dog or screaming at one’s laundry to dry.

So, again, why did the Japanese attack Darwin?

Since the outbreak of the Pacific War the city’s less-than-ideal harbor had been a staging area for convoys bearing troops and equipment to the battle zones north of Australia. And following the early defeats suffered by the Allies in those battle zones, units seeking to escape capture or destruction by the seemingly invincible Japanese came flowing back into Australia through the city’s port, civilian airfield and RAAF base. Darwin might not have been the mighty bastion Pearl Harbor was, but by attacking the city and its infrastructure, the Japanese hoped to interrupt the Allied flow of men and materiel toward the Philippines, New Guinea and the islands of the South and Central Pacific, while at the same time inflicting a similar blow to Australian morale as Pearl Harbor had to American morale.

Japan’s ultimate success in achieving those goals owed much to several unfortunate similarities between the first two great carrier-borne raids launched by the IJN in the Pacific War.

American losses at Pearl Harbor might have been mitigated had a duty officer not disregarded the radar detection of incoming Japanese aircraft, assuming instead the radar had painted a group of B-17s arriving from California. Ironically, Australia’s first operational radar unit had been set up a few miles north of Darwin and was said to be capable of picking up aircraft as far as 100 miles away. Unfortunately, just one element of the station was missing: the antenna. Yet even if the radar had been functional, operators might only have confirmed the RAAF’s belief that the aircraft spotted by Father McGrath were the returning USAAC Warhawks. Finally, just as casualties in Hawaii might have been reduced had authorities triggered air raid sirens following that initial, disregarded warning, the Darwin raid would have resulted in far fewer deaths and injuries had authorities blown the sirens after receiving McGrath’s warning.

When Fuchida and his strike force arrived over Darwin, there were 45 ships in port, moored and anchored in a manner that largely prevented defensive maneuvering or escape. “Sitting ducks generally display more common sense and more instinct for self-preservation,” journalist Peter Grose wrote in An Awkward Truth, his history of the attack.

The largest warship present was the destroyer USS Peary, an aging four-stacker that had evaded destruction by the Japanese in Manila Bay, arrived in Darwin on January 3 and been engaged in a series of uneventful antisubmarine patrols. While the ship had more sea room than most of the other vessels in port, by the time its crew realized they were under attack it was already too late—five bombs rained down on the destroyer. “Peary was now like a dying animal, dragging painfully along, with her stern gradually sinking,” Grose wrote. “More than one eyewitness wrote that the forward guns were still firing as she slid under the burning waters.” Eighty-eight crewmen were killed, 13 wounded.

Japanese dive-bombers also hit the Australian hospital ship Manunda, killing 12 and injuring seven. Fuchida later said he’d seen the prominent red crosses on the ship’s hull and funnel, but he would have been flying above the melee in a command-and-coordinate position. Unfortunately, several dive-bomber pilots didn’t have as good a view and released their bombs on Manunda. To this day many Australians believe the Japanese purposely attacked the plainly marked hospital ship.

The attackers ultimately sank eight ships in port, while 25 others were bombed, thoroughly strafed or beached by their crews. Darwin’s equivalent of Pearl Harbor’s USS Arizona disaster was the explosion of the docked cargo vessel Neptuna, which was loaded with ammunition and depth charges. The blast killed 45 seamen and stevedores and, combined with the detonation of several large oil-storage tanks, largely obliterated the port itself.

That rules out Darwin as a forward base and support facility. The heavy industry is 2000 km away by single rail, and dirt track road, the infrastructure is non-existent and the base is in Japanese air bombardment range. Build up should have been more robust, but those asleep on watch had not bothered to read a map or calculate IJN air (1000 km land-based radius for a Rikko from an all weather air base.) or naval based (carrier task force 3,500 km from a port/fuel head) operational strike range.

It explains why SWP subs had to operate from southern Australia and why repair and maintenance in Australia itself was a logistics nightmare.

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The only 10 meter depth ports adequate with surplus dock space for tender support and forward basing out of range of Japanese airpower and with local infrastructure that could support basic ship-fitting industrial needs were Brisbane a short cruise up from Sydney and Perth/Fremantle. GUESS what two ports were connected to the main WW II Australian industrial centers of Melbourne and Sydney? Guess why the Japanese tried to knock Sydney out with a submarine raid?

Everything, based on American technology intended for Australia, headed to Sydney and Melbourne. Then it had to be railed and trucked up to Darwin, the forward base of supply for and where the Australians fought their war in New Guinea; or to MacArthur through that east coast rail line that fed as far forward as Townsville and Cairns. Halsey's stuff came through New Caledonia. Now you know why Coral Sea was fought, and WATCHTOWER (aptly named isn't it?) and CARTWHEEL happens.

All because Darwin was not developed enough and because it was knocked out early in 1942 and rendered useless as a major forward naval base.

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Postscript; I'm working on the "Hart Report". It will be up soon, then I will have things to say about MacArthur, the Mackerels and the SWP that will be "ugly". Coral Sea will be kind of awful, too. How we won (Especially in this ITTL as I write my portion.) there still amazes me. Fletcher was a far better admiral OTL/RTL than even I realized.
 
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This involves a complicated answer.

Darwin_air_defence_map_1944.jpg

Australia's Pearl Harbor.



That rules out Darwin as a forward base and support facility. The heavy industry is 2000 km away by single rail, and dirt track road, the infrastructure is non-existent and the base is in Japanese air bombardment range. Build up should have been more robust, but those asleep on watch had not bothered to read a map or calculate IJN air (1000 km land-based radius for a Rikko from an all weather air base.) or naval based (carrier task force 3,500 km from a port/fuel head) operational strike range.

It explains why SWP subs had to operate from southern Australia and why repair and maintenance in Australia itself was a logistics nightmare.

Passenger-Rail-Australia-Map.png


The only 10 meter depth ports adequate with surplus dock space for tender support and forward basing out of range of Japanese airpower and with local infrastructure that could support basic ship-fitting industrial needs were Brisbane a short cruise up from Sydney and Perth/Fremantle. GUESS what two ports were connected to the main WW II Australian industrial centers of Melbourne and Sydney? Guess why the Japanese tried to knock Sydney out with a submarine raid?

Everything, based on American technology intended for Australia, headed to Sydney and Melbourne. Then it had to be railed and trucked up to Darwin, the forward base of supply for and where the Australians fought their war in New Guinea; or to MacArthur through that east coast rail line that fed as far forward as Townsville and Cairns. Halsey's stuff came through New Caledonia. Now you know why Coral Sea was fought, and WATCHTOWER (aptly named isn't it?) and CARTWHEEL happens.

All because Darwin was not developed enough and because it was knocked out early in 1942 and rendered useless as a major forward naval base.

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Postscript; I'm working on the "Hart Report". It will be up soon, then I will have things to say about MacArthur, the Mackerels and the SWP that will be "ugly". Coral Sea will be kind of awful, too. How we won (Especially in this ITTL as I write my portion.) there still amazes me. Fletcher was a far better admiral OTL/RTL than even I realized.
Hopefully Thomas Hart will get the credit he deserves, imo. Ill served by history, thanks to MacArthur, a lifelong family friend, his fleet base destroyed because MacArthur's Air Force, failed at it's job, and hamstrung Hart's desire to do reconnisance of the Japanese on Formosa,and iIndochina.
 
Both maps are great. Do the different colours on the rail one indicate services, or are the gauge differences even worse than I thought? And wasn't there a break in the line to Darwin at this point?

Different services and gauges. And as far as rail to Darwin is concerned, the break was at Alice Springs.

Here is a better WW II map.

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And it involves another (off topic) and relatively involved answer.

First, while Australia was, by 1930s standards a First World nation and every bit the equal culturally to any modern liberal bureaucratic state, she was still a new settled country with the infrastructure and resource exploitation base to match. She was not like Canada, next door to a rich ally whose own resources exploitation, infrastructure and technical base would by necessity and happenstance spill over as infrastructure bleed and industrialization into the St Lawrence River Valley, a region almost as vital and developed as western Pennsylvania and the Ohio River Valley to the Allied war effort. Up to 25% of the British empire's collective industrial might and technological output was Canadian. Canada is fully as capable as Britain in most of the means to produce. And being a North American nation with access to a huge international (as in across the border) financial and talent pool, she has a much easier war time to build what she needs or acquire it as a matter of easy transportation and financing.

Whatever Australia has in WW II to fight has to be either imported from 10,000 km away, bootstrapped locally or used as is. And she has to move it and pay for it locally. Plus, she is a continental nation fighting on a north south axis, is being ruthlessly bombed on her northern frontier where she is trying to fight a cross ocean war to seize those enemy bases from which the Japanese bomb her, in an air campaign the Japanese fight, that while not as large as the Battle of Britain, is being waged by an enemy smarter than the Germans, using better air campaign tactics. Queensland and the Northern Territory, infrastructure wise have rail and road communications situations not too dissimilar from the US Wild West in 1865. And the geography, terrain wise is just as awful, with desert, lack of water and difficult road and rail construction obstacles.

Some of the problems the Curtin government inherited from its predecessors, can thus be understood in the understanding of several major bolos that the Australian military had pointed out in the 1920s.

1. There was no developed seaport in northern Australia. The two legitimate candidates, Derby was a hell hole like the US equivalent Death Valley and Darwin was stuck at the end of a 1000 km dirt-track road that connected it to the railhead at Alice Springs. NOBODY in Canberra listened to the simple explanation that a single track rail-line north to Darwin would improve the supply situation north if Australia ever had to fight in the Timor or Arafura Seas.

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2. If I am an American admiral or general arriving on scene in 1942 with orders to help the Australians (the Curtin government scrambling to organize some kind of defense), and I've been trained at Portsmouth or Carlisle Barracks in LOGISTICS, I'm tearing my hair out.

3. I know I repeat myself, but it must be emphasized. There is no railroad network or paved road system for mass haulage sufficient to service an offensive into the DEI along the most direct and logical jump-off point (Queensland) beyond Cairn and practically none at all to Darwin in the Northern Territory. The terrain and climate is as awful as the American Southwest and as undeveloped pre-American civil war. No local industrial base existed sufficient to host basic repair needs north of the settled SE Australian coasts. And water would be a huge problem.

4. The Curtin government was not filled with ninnies. They knew these facts. They were trying to decide where to make a stand. Logic dictated that logistically it would be extremely difficult to fight in the northern territory or Northern Queensland. Menzies and Fadden in the previous administrations allegedly had cooked up a proposal called in later history the Brisbane Line in recognition of these realities, expecting the Japanese to continue their advance into northern Australia.

5. Now you can see why the Sentinel AC and CAC Boomerang were built? The Australian governments of the time were anticipating a need to fight a North African campaign style combat in central Australia. And logically that combat would only center as far north as the rail and road network would sustain the land armies? (Alice Springs to Townsville/Cairn, or as far as the railheads reached optimistically.).

Well... What do the Australian logistics and infrastructure permit if you are an Australian or American thinking OFFENSE?

CARTWHEEL and Papua New Guinea.

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Logistics handcuffs an army and a navy.

If the east coast is all you have, then to carry the fight to the Japanese you start in the Coral Sea and drive NE, if you are Australian or the Americans. And in the meantime, you grit your teeth, take that aerial beating to the north and funnel what you can through to Darwin by truck convoy and somehow make the Japanese fight your fight in New Guinea. Their logistics are as rotten as yours there, and you can stalemate them. This is why the Southwest Pacific War takes the insane shape it takes and why nonsensical (to laymen) decisions such as the Brisbane Line and (later) the do or die stand on the Kokoda Trail (a victory every bit as important as El Alamein), and the incredibly risky Battle of the Coral Sea; make perfectly good sense when one digs into the details, and why I insist that a successful stand on New Britain, hanging onto Rabaul, was worth the risk of the fight instead of abandoning it to the Japanese. It would have cut a year off the war.
 
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7. I prefer a strong-back tank, if that is going to be adopted. The thing could be a submarine version of an aircraft drop tank.


8. Or the USN can employ milk cows to the edge of "danger waters" and simply transfer fuel at sea to comers and goers.


9. The reason I don't like the tow line idea is drag, noise and wake turbulence. Suppose an oscillation developes or the tow line fouls the screws? Loss of mission and possibly boat.

Many sources I have read regarding 'towing' are replete with examples of lines parting and the 'slowness' of it so totally agree with your objection to that idea

The strong back idea is better although that would potentially have issues with performance and stability and the 'Milch Cow' idea is far better IMO - just nick the idea from the Germans and better it.

Perhaps vessels such as the Argonaut and Nautilus could be converted?
 
Back on the subs front. I'm thinking that SubLANT keeps about 20 Mackerels and still gets the S-boats for training which should be transferred out of SubPAC ASAP as soon as new construction reaches there. The O and R boats have to be retired PDQ in my opinion as in this ITTL the USN should have an all Mark XIV using force in SubPAC and shift that way in SubLANT as soon as exigencies allow. How large was the Mark 10 torpedo reserve?

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0........................Hull #......................Location.......................................ITTL Mackerel Class Name............Captain
1........................SS(E)-204.................New London, Conn..........................USS Mackerel.................................(LTCDR J. F. Davidson)^a
2........................SS(P)-205.................New London, Conn..........................USS Marlin.....................................(LTCDR G. A. Sharp, Jr.)^b
3........................SS(P)-206.................New London, Conn..........................USS Molly......................................(LT(s.g.) E. E. Marshall)
4........................SS(E)-207.................Portsmouth, N.H. (training)..............USS Madtom..................................(LT(s.g.) A. H. Holtz)
5........................SS(M)-208................New London, Conn..........................USS Menhaden................................(LT(s.g.) R. D. King)^c
6........................SS(E)-209.................New London, Conn..........................USS Mako......................................(LT(s.g) J. S. McCain, Jr)
7........................SS(P)-210.................New London, Conn..........................USS Masu.......................................(LT(s.g.) B. F. McMahon)
8........................SS(E)-211.................New London, Conn..........................USS Medaka...................................(LT(s.g.) R.D. Grant)
9........................SS(E)-212.................Key West, Fla..................................USS Manta.....................................(LT(s.g.) D. T. Hammond)
10......................SS(M)-213.................Key West, Fla..................................USS Megala...................................(LTCDR J. T. Hardin)
11......................SS(P)-214.................New London, Conn. (Overhaul)..........USS Medusa (fitting out)..................(LTCDR D. W. Morton)^1
12......................SS(M)-215................New London, Conn. (Overhaul)..........USS Manefish (fitting out)................(LTCDR R. W. Johnson)
13......................SS(P)-216.................Patrol off Atlantic Coast....................USS Mola.......................................(LTCDR W. T. Nelson)
14......................SS(M)-217................New London, Conn. (Overhaul)..........USS Masu......................................(LT(s.g.) R. L. Gross)
15......................SS(P)-218.................Key West, Fla..................................USS Mirigal....................................(LT(s.g.) B. E. Lewellen)
16......................SS(E)-219.................Key West, Fla..................................USS Moonfish................................(LTCDR. E. C. Folger, Jr.)
17......................SS(E)-220.................New London, Conn...........................USS Mahi Mahi..............................(LTCDR H. B. Dodge)
18......................SS(M)-221.................Key West, Fla..................................USS Meluccid................................(LTCDR C. A. Johnson )
19......................SS(E)-222.................Key West, Fla..................................USS Monkfish................................(LT(s.g.) G. W. Kehl)
20......................SS(E)-223.................New London, Conn...........................USS Mudfish..................................(LT(s.g.) O. E. Hagberg)
21......................SS(P)-224.................At sea enroute Key West, Fla.............USS Medaka..................................(LT(s.g.) V. L. Lowrance)
22......................SS(M)-225................New London, Conn...........................USS Mudskipper.............................
(LTCDR J. R. Craig )

23......................SS(P)-226.................New London, Conn...........................USS Modok....................................(LTCDR E. J. MacGregor, 3d)
24......................SS(E)-227.................New London, Conn...........................USS Mooneye.................................(LT(s.g.) J. B. Azer )
25......................SS(E)-228.................Key West, Fla..................................USS Mojar......................................(LTCDR C. B. Stevens, Jr)
26......................SS(K)-229.................Philadelphia, Pa (fitting out)..............USS Morid......................................(LRCDR R. R. McGregor)^2^d

^a; this is the Electric Boat version of a Mackerel using Neselco diesels.
^b; this is the Portsmouth version of a Mackerel using ALCO diesels.
^c: this is the Manitowoc version using GM diesels (noisy)
^d: this is the Kaiserized war standard modularized version using the Neselco push-me pull-you opposed cylinder silenced diesels. These will have repercussions. ITTL TANSTAFL.

^1 Expect a lot of special things from this boat.
^2 Rob Roy McGruder appears to be an anomaly. OTL He does well early and later turns in a series of 0 patrols. Any ideas what happened to him after Grouper?

27.....................SS(K)-230..................under construction (EB)...................................USS Machete...................(pending)
28.....................SS(K)-231..................under construction (Manitowoc)........................USS Mahseer...................(pending)
29.....................SS(K)-232..................under construction (Portsmouth........................USS Mandarinfish.............(pending)
30.....................SS(K)-233..................under construction (Portsmouth).......................USS Minoga.....................(pending)
31.....................SS(K)-234..................under construction (EB)...................................USS Mola.........................(pending)
32.....................SS(K)-235..................under construction (EB)...................................USS Morsa.......................(pending)
33.....................SS(K)-236..................under construction Manitowoc).........................USS Morwong...................(pending)
34.....................SS(K)-237..................under construction (EB)...................................USS Mosquitofish..............(pending)
35.....................SS(K)-238..................under construction (Portsmouth).......................USS Malawi......................(pending)
36.....................SS(K)-239..................under construction (Portsmouth).......................USS Mono........................(pending)

Dealey and the others we've discussed will have to wait from 3 to 9 months from 7 December 1941 onward for these Mackerels.

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Many sources I have read regarding 'towing' are replete with examples of lines parting and the 'slowness' of it so totally agree with your objection to that idea

The strong back idea is better although that would potentially have issues with performance and stability and the 'Milch Cow' idea is far better IMO - just nick the idea from the Germans and better it.

Perhaps vessels such as the Argonaut and Nautilus could be converted?

I prefer strong back cradles with fuel tanks for the simplicity of engineering and for the following reasons.

1. Simpler to modify many subs, not build a few specialist from the keel up Milch Cows like the Germans did.
2. Jettison feature means a fighting sub, not depth charge target practice on a guaranteed dead boat.
3. Drawback of corkscrew crash-through crush depth, a known hazard with atomic boats that carry a strong back load that have had to emergency dive during the Cold War, is not likely with a WW II diesel electric as they generally did not or could not make the high speed (10 knots +) turn to make the added "reverse keel board" effect that hazardous. In laymen's terms a high speed turn underwater and the sail causes the sub to lean hard and DOWN in the direction of the turn. If the planesmen and steersmen don't watch it, the sub can zip right through test depth in mere tens of seconds. So that hazard is manageable.
4. Finally, when delivering supplies to Filipino guerillas or staging a Makin Raid or two, cargo cans pre-packed with Marine Corps goodies are handier to float ashore than rubber rafting it from an exposed sub out-loading through small hatches.
5. And speaking of deliveries... swimmer delivery vehicles for UDTs.

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6. What do you suppose I have planned for these guys?

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Ever wonder who was senior to whom and where they were in the USN at the start of WW II?

COMMANDING OFFICERS BY SIGNAL NUMBER, OCTOBER 1, 1941

YMMV, but some of those postings seem "odd" to me.​
 
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12 April, the damaged Kaga sorties from Truk, bound for the navy yard at Kure, escorted by DesDiv 17. Lying offshore, she is sighted by Lucius Chappell's Sculpin (replacing S-39). He is kept down by aircraft. Later that day, Gene McKinney in Salmon also spots Kaga and attempts to close; he reaches 4300yd before he is forced to dive by Kaga's aircraft. McKinney fires all four bow tubes at the slow-moving carrier, only to have them all miss as the carrier zigs at the last moment. McKinney waits for her to go out of sight, then surfaces to begin an end around. He again fails to get really close, only 6000yd, this time firing all four bow tubes, then swinging to fire all four stern tubes, as well. All eight miss again, but Salmon is detected, and Kaga's escort delivers a long, but surprisingly ineffectual, depth charging, over the next six hours. When Salmon breaks free, finally, Kaga is nowhere in sight.

In July, John R. "Dinty" Moore, in Lemonfish (a "remodelled" Gato, which some are informally calling Costero class), is assigned to Empire Waters. Lemonfish is outfitted with the first of a new type of search radar, the SJ, which is being fitted (and retrofitted) onto the Force's masts.

At 01.15 on 3 July, Lemonfish encounters a convoy of three freighters, escorted by a single Chidori, picked up by her SJ at 16,000yd. Moore makes an end around, closing to 2000yd at 03.02 to fire all six bow tubes, then swinging to fire two of his four stern tubes. He scores three hits in the lead ship, 8087 ton Dokoni Maru, two in the second, 5889 ton Taipei Maru, and one in the third, 3000 ton Meiwa Maru; all three are sunk. The Chidori charges, forcing Lemonfish down, dropping a handful of depth charges; at 02.40, she is joined by three destroyers, and they subject Lemonfish to a punishing depth charging: Moore logs 124 depth charges, a record not surpassed for the duration.

The attack produces a radar casualty, the mast springing a serious leak; the SJ is flooded out. Moore surfaces overnight on 4 July, draining the radar mast and Glyptolling a patch, then replacing the flooded components.

At 22.58 on 11 July, Lemonfish finds a 2500 ton passenger freighter with her SJ at 5100yd, only to have the set break down before Moore can get a firing solution; he resorts to TBT, closing to 1700yd and firing a pair of torpedoes from his stern tubes. One hit sends Bifuku Maru to the bottom.

Just past noon on 13 July, Moore's sonar locates a large freighter, at 4600yd; he pursues surfaced, reaching 2700yd before being driven down by aircraft. An hour later, Moore surfaces and continues the pursuit, getting to 1900yd before diving to avoid a second aircraft, but (being very close to his intended firing position anyhow) letting go with three bow tubes; possibly thanks to the aircraft provoking a sudden course change (or a hasty solution), all three miss. The freighter heads close inshore; Moore checks his chart, surfaces, and rings up flank speed to get ahead of the freighter at a spot he will have to pass, then dives, even closer inshore, with the periscope shears almost awash. At 15.03, the freighter crosses virtually in front of Lemonfish's bow tubes, and Moore fires three times; he is rewarded with a tremendous explosion, and the ammunition ship Krakatoa Maru (9045 tons) disintegrates. Moore runs for deep water, with aircraft coming over the horizon.

At 21.29 on 17 July, Lemonfish's SJ locates a convoy of three freighters and a tanker, escorted by an old Momi-class destroyer, at 7950yd. Moore closes at flank speed surfaced, only to have the Momi abruptly, and inexplicably, turn toward when he reaches 4000yd; Moore avoids, staying surfaced, ranging with the SJ to keep in contact, only to have the Momi follow him, for more than an hour. At 22.48, the SJ goes out of alignment, forcing Moore to shut it down, switching to TBT as he shakes the destroyer and closes to 1400yd. Moore fires three bow tubes at the leading freighter, three at the second (his last bow torpedoes), then swings and fires all four stern tubes at the tanker. The first ship, which Moore estimated at 4000 tons, is blown to bits. (JANAC records her as Soho Maru, 4188 tons) The second ship stops, hit twice; within five minutes, Toshima Maru (4009 tons), is sinking by the stern. The tanker is hit three times and stopped. The third steams on, visibly speeding up, while the Momi follows the torpedo tracks back toward Lemonfish, dropping twenty depth charges over then next three and a half hours. As the Momi to lose interest, Moore manages to creep away, surfacing an hour before dawn to put a charge on his batteries and return to where he left the tanker, finding it gone, before diving again for the day. (He will only claim damage for 3500 tons; JANAC will confirm 7341-tons Kobe Maru was sunk.)

At 05.38 on 22 July, Lemonfish's sonar picks up screw noise, and the SJ set identifies a large blip at 6800yd. Moore runs in, reaching 3770yd before the SJ packs up due to overheating; Lemonfish continues to close on the two small freighters (running so close together they appeared to be one blip) just after dawn. Moore dives when his SD air warning radar picks up a patrol plane, and the freighters escape.

SJ picks up a contact at 23.11 on 26 July, at 8850yd; Moore closes, finding a medium-sized freghter sailing alone. Using his radar sparingly, he gets a good range at 2490yd before the SJ goes out of alignment again; Moore closes a final 1000yd and fires two torpedoes; both miss, the freighter unexpectedly zigging toward. Moore fires his final two torpedoes, both aft, and scores a single hit on Pusan Maru (2759 tons), which sinks in 37 minutes.

Moore returns to Pearl Harbor, claiming eight ships for 40,500 tons & damage for 3500; JANAC will confirm nine, for 46,818 tons. The SJ fails to live up to its promise, spending most of the patrol out of commission or out of proper calibration (& so effectively useless), yet Moore is enthusiastic about its potential. English & Nimitz share his view.

The vagaries of the SJ are not the only problems with the radar masts.

Batray, commanded by Charles W. "Weary" Wilkins, is assigned off Formosa. At 02.29 on 12 August, her SJ picks up an 8000 ton freighter at 8300yd. Wilkins closes on the surface to 2000yd and fires three bow tubes; overestimating the target's speed, two miss ahead, but one hits, and Wilkins claims a sinking. (JANAC proves unable to identify or confirm it.)

At 14.41 on 26 August, Batray detects Teishun Maru (2250 tons) on sonar, surfacing to pursue, sinking her with two aft torpedoes.

At 03.10 on 27 August, making a radar approach on a pair of medium-sized freighters, Batray is ambushed by a patrol aircraft, which drops four bombs, "practically down the conning tower hatch", according to Wilkins' patrol report, as Batray dives out from under; it is so dark, Wilkins wonders how the plane spotted him. After half an hour, he surfaces to continue the pursuit, closing in to 1600yd and firing three bow tubes at each freighter; Wilkins scores two hits in the lead ship, Hokkaido Maru (4677 tons) and one the second. The second settles by the stern, but stubbornly refuses to sink; Moore fires eleven rounds from his 4"/50cal deck gun (pirated from the retired S-42) before an aircraft appears overhead and again delivers "amazingly accurate" bombs, leaving Batray severely shaken and springing several minor leaks. (Wilkins will only claim damage on the second ship; postwar, JANAC will confirm Sapporo Maru {3907 tons} was sunk.)

On 10 September, Batray detects heavy screws just before noon, surfacing to pursue. After reaching 2100yd, an aircraft is spotted on the horizon, ahd Wilkins dives. Attempting to raise the radar mast for an approach, Batray suffers another radar casualty: the mast freezes partially raised. Wilkins continues the approach, cranking the mast down in hand power and ordering an inspection. Wilkins sets up on the leading freighter, firing three bow tubes at each: two torpedoes miss the lead ship ahead, but one hits, stopping two torpedoes miss the second ship astern, evidently because she speeded up without Wilkins noticing, but the third hits, stopping her, as well. Wilkins fires a stern tube into the lead ship, sinking Fuji Maru (5204 tons); he fires a second, then a third, before the stubborn Kobayashi Maru (5785 tons) sinks.

When his attack is completed, Wilkins learns the radar mast well is severely scored, because the wrong kind of hydraulic fluid has been used in the lift/retract system; he's been fortunate the periscopes have not also been put out of action. He drains the hydraulic system & refills with replacement stores, putting all systems in hand power & reducing use of periscopes, until he can rdv with a supply boat. That has to wait until 22.17 on 16 September, when Gordon Campbell's Bass (assigned to Lockwood's Task Force 51 in Suva) meets him 100nm off Formosa. Bass transfers 120USgal hydraulic fluid, 40,000USgal diesel, & 20 more days' supplies. (Especially appreciated are fresh apples, and a case of vanilla ice cream.)

At 04.51 on 16 September, Batray's radar detects a three-ship convoy at 8180yd; Wilkins warns Campbell to dive and stay down, then shuts down his SJ (by now suspecting the Japanese have a way to detect it which ONI has not yet recognized) and closes on the surface. The convoy, all small tankers, fails to see Batray as she gets to 1000yd; Wilkins fires three bow tubes (all his remaining forward torpedoes) at the leading tanker and four stern tubes at the second, all by TBT. All seven fish run hot, straight, and normal, and all hit as aimed, this time: Zeus Maru (5910 tons) and Apollo Maru (4759 tons) are both sunk. Wilkins pursues the third tanker, being forced down just after dawn by aircraft; taking peeks with the periscope, he surfaces again in an hour, running the periscope up to keep the tanker in sight as he trails. The aircraft returns at 08.06, and the cycle repeats, and again at 09.39. When Wilkins tries to extend his periscope for another distant look, it refuses to extend, and a confused Wilkins breaks off the chase: he finds the replacment hydraulic fluid has been mislabelled; it, too, is the wrong kind. He contacts Radio Pearl and cuts his patrol short.

When he returns, a frustrated Wilkins is scathing about the SJ's failings; he has sunk seven ships for 37,250 tons (JANAC confirms seven for 32,492 tons), almost in spite of SJ.

Beginning in August, the new Knifetooth (another "remodelled" Gato), in the hands of Bull Wright's old exec, Reuben T. Whitaker (ex-S-44, after replacing Dinty Moore, with Dick O'Kane as his exec; Whitaker expresses reservations about O'Kane's maturity--and stability), patrols off Truk. 3 August, Knifetooth picks up a lone freighter just after dark, & Whitaker closes to 1800yd, firing three bow tubes; two hit, & Yoshiro Maru (2173 tons) sinks. (The attack also reveals a whole new side to O'Kane: he is supremely calm once the action starts.)

Running surfaced at 20.33 on 10 August, Whitaker picks up another freighter sailing alone. He fires three bow tubes, scoring two hits, and Hokkaido Maru (6218 tons) sinks.

At 06.49 on 12 August, on the alert thanks to Hypo, Whitaker spots I-171 (1400 tons) at 7300yd, sailing along "fat, dumb, and happy", records Whitaker. He closes to 1750yd without I-171 detecting him ("Obvious lookouts are blind", Whitaker remarks) and fires a single stern tube. It hits just astern of the conning tower, blowing I-171 in half. Within half an hour, the sky is dark with aircraft patrols, and Knifetooth is subjected to bombs ("disturbingly close", says Whitaker's patrol report) on three occasions; he avoids destroyer sweeps most of the rest of the day.

Three days later, Knifetooth is on watch for I-169, inbound. Knifetooth makes contact at 13.18 at a range of 8100yd, with aircraft overhead; Whitaker watches her enter the lagoon, writing, "Commanding Officer contemplating if Indian rain dance would ground air patrols." (There is no record they succeeded.) Nevertheless, on 17 August, I-169 departs Truk, & Knifetooth trails from 6600yd, surfacing at dusk and detecting I-169 on sonar at 9100yd, bearing for Japan. Knifetooth closes on the surface, reaching 1300yd without being spotted; Whitaker fires just two stern torpedoes. Both hit, claiming I-169 (1,400 tons).

On the alert (again thanks to Hypo), at 05.11 on 28 August, Whitaker's sonarman picks up screws at 5500yd: it is I-172 (1400 tons). He closes to 2500yd without I-172 detecting him before being forced to dive by aircraft, again firing a single stern tube. It misses astern, but I-172 seems not to notice, and Whitaker fires another. This hits in the bows, and I-172 plows under with her engines still (evidently) at full steam. The sinking is followed by even more extensive aircraft & destroyer sweeps, but Whitaker evades successfully, staying down well past sundown.

12 September at 09.13, about 70nm off Truk, Knifetooth picks up an inbound convoy of two small freightes at 7900yd. Surfaced, she closes to 1600yd, when the lead freighter ("Suprisingly alert lookouts", Whitaker remarks in his patrol report) begins firing at her; no rounds falling close, Knifetooth presents her stern (causing the freighter to cease fire) and firing all four tubes, claiming the second ship, Yemana Maru (2599 tons) with one hit; the lead ship, Sulu Maru (3015 tons), requires another torpedo.

At 14.37 on 18 September, still about 70nm off Truk, Whitaker spots another small freighter inbound, at a range of 6100yd; closing to 1400yd and deciding she's not worth more than a single torpedo, he fires only one bow tube, which misses astern, then another, which hits just aft the pilothouse, and Etorofu Maru (1246 tons) breaks in half, sinking in about 40 minutes.

Hypo provides a third notice for 22 September, and at 06.03, Knifetooth detects I-174 inbound for Truk at 9000yd. Risking detection by air patrols, Whitaker pursues surfaced, reaching 3600yd before being driven down; counting on a few minutes confusion over which boat is which, he takes a long shot with all six bow tubes, three set shallow (10 feet), three deep (30 feet), in case the sub dives. He scores one hit just under the conning tower and one just forward of the screws (the deep fish all miss), & I-174 (1,810 tons) blows sky high, an astounding four enemy submarines sunk in a single patrol.

At 03.20 30 September, Whitaker's sonarman detects heavy screws at 12,000yd: it is the seaplane tender Chiyoda (11,190-tons), sailing alone. Whitaker bends on flank speed and executes an end around to put him on the tender's bow just before dawn, at 4100yd, able to get no closer, and he fires all six bow tubes. Two miss ahead, two astern, but two hit squarely, stopping the tender; hearing her radio opening up, Whitaker hastily fires his two remaining after torpedoes, dives, and clears the area, claiming only damage. (Hypo will confirm her sunk.)

On his return to Pearl Harbor, Whitaker is justifiably famous: no other skipper has sunk four Japanese submarines on a single patrol, on top of the seaplane tender. His total score is seven ships for 22,500 tons, plus damgage to a Chiyoda-class for 5000 tons; JANAC credits 8 ships (including Chiyoda) for 31,205 tons.

As the new fleet boats begin arriving in numbers, Royce L. Gross (ex-R-9) gets Haddock, John S. McCain, Jr. (ex-O-8, son of the Admiral) is assigned to Blackfish, Rebel Lowrance (ex-R-16) to Trigger, & Sam Dealey (ex-S-20) to Wahoo.
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When I started, I'd intended only to cover Moore's radar troubles, but realized so many casualties would cut a patrol short; only after I introduced Batray did I realize I could solve that with a supply boat, whence Bass (under her first Pacific War CO, here). I stole the hydralic fluid screwup from Beach, if it seems familiar... Adding the second, similar failure seemed credible; supply mistakes happen.

In looking for something else along the way, I stumbled on Wahoo's success off Truk, & couldn't resist. For the record, those attacks are all OTL (except the dates), except the ones on the carrier, which Kennedy didn't get position on; only the names & exact tonnages are changed.

Meiwa Maru, Bifuku Maru, & Teishun Maru are also real, & sunk in approximately those locations on approximately those dates OTL. So are the warships, and their dates of arrival.

I'm assigning new COs at Pearl, essentially handing over from commissioning crews, rather than sending COs back to new construction, though that's a bit ahistorical...

I'm also planning the first "long-conn" boat to be built at Manitowoc, using EB drawigns, because EB is over-committed, & naming her Candlefish. Any comment?

Also, does anybody think four I-boats in one patrol is too many? They're all OTL arrivals...& I really didn't want to do a whole 'nother patrol off Truk just to account for a couple of them.

Edit: retcon to remove Chuck Triebel; he goes to a Mackerel, instead. So, Dealey gets Wahoo.
 
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When I started, I'd intended only to cover Moore's radar troubles, but realized so many casualties would cut a patrol short; only after I introduced Batray did I realize I could solve that with a supply boat, whence Bass (under her first Pacific War CO, here). I stole the hydralic fluid screwup from Beach, if it seems familiar... Adding the second, similar failure seemed credible; supply mistakes happen.

I see we have those butterflies at work. (See below.)

In looking for something else along the way, I stumbled on Wahoo's success off Truk, & couldn't resist. For the record, those attacks are all OTL (except the dates), except the ones on the carrier, which Kennedy didn't get position on; only the names & exact tonnages are changed.

Yeah, send me back to the drawing board again. Now I have to find another victim.

Meiwa Maru, Bifuku Maru, & Teishun Maru are also real, & sunk in approximately those locations on approximately those dates OTL. So are the warships, and their dates of arrival.

Okay.

I'm assigning new COs at Pearl, essentially handing over from commissioning crews, rather than sending COs back to new construction, though that's a bit ahistorical...

February *42 Dealey, Lowrance, McCain, & Gross arrive for fleet boats. They'll be replaced in SubLANT by other skippers and or execs on the Mackerels.

I'm also planning the first "long-conn" boat to be built at Manitowoc, using EB drawings, because EB is over-committed, & naming her Candlefish. Any comment?

You may not like my render of a *43 fleet boat?

Also, does anybody think four I-boats in one patrol is too many? They're all OTL arrivals...& I really didn't want to do a whole 'nother patrol off Truk just to account for a couple of them.

If we can have a destroyer-killing ace, why not a sub-killing ace?

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Now for the butterflies.

I noticed the IJN patrollers are homing in on radio. (Nice story touch.) Yup, ONI has not figured the Singapore disaster out yet. The IJN is not yet in full exploitation mode, but they are getting there.

Carriers and other things being swapped and sunk around willy nilly, the ITTL will have some strange results, starting with Coral Sea.
 
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I see we have have butterflies at work. (See below.)
Some. With more boats in service, & sooner, keeping only the OTL names seemed improbable. Also, since I'm more/less making it all up...
Yeah, send me back to the drawing board again. Now I have to find another victim.
On Kaga, or Chiyoda? Kaga since retconned; if she gets away, it's credible.
You may not like my render of a *43 fleet boat?
I haven't made a firm decision on the "long conn" intro date, so I'll wait for it. (I do want to keep the name, tho; my thought is, go to the stronger frames & heavier skins at the same time, & the candlefish is a deep-diver. There's also this, tho TBH, I was thinking of the book.)
If we can have a destroyer-killing ace, why not a sub-killing ace?
It felt like pushing the limit. The most I know of is 3 (by Batfish).
I noticed the IJN patrollers are homing in on radio. (Nice story touch.) Yup, ONI has not figured the Singapore disaster out yet. The IJN is not yet in full exploitation mode, but they are getting there.
Making some use of the RWRs, yes, enough to be more trouble than OTL.
 
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The Hart Report

Battle of the Java Sea: 27 February 1942

TIME: 1600-2400 hours
WEATHER/VISIBILITY/SEA STATE 2 to 4 Fair/Good to Poor/Small to Moderate Swells.
SURPRISE: none.
MISSION: Allies to intercept and destroy invasion convoy; Japanese to protect convoy

By Sunday the 22nd beginning the last week of February Java remained as the only major Dutch island remaining in ABDA’s possession. To those charged with its defense, there was no doubt the Japanese would invade soon. In fact, Dutch and American submarines had detected two invasion convoys at sea – the so-called Western Invasion Fleet sailed on February 18 from Camranh Bay in Indochina and the Eastern Invasion Fleet on the 19th from Jolo, Philippines. Allied intelligence (Station FRUMEL) warned VADM Conrad Helfrich, the commander of ADBAFLOAT, that the armadas approached. On the 21st he split the maritime defense of his island by creating two surface action task groups, one based at Batavia’s port, Tandjong Priok in the west and the other at Surabaya in the east. On the 25th a Dutch Dornier spotted the Eastern Invasion Fleet. Consequently, Doorman’s Eastern Strike Force at Surabaya was reinforced on February 26th by the Royal Navy contingent based at Tandjong Priok from the Western Force. On this day the first and only conference between the captains and staff of the Eastern Strike Force was convened. It was a brisk one-hour session wherein they agreed to sortie that evening. Sortie they did to spend that night and the following morning fruitlessly sweeping the north coast of eastern Java and Madura and adjacent waters north to Bawean Island, one hundred miles due north of Surabaya. This was the first wasted sortie this force conducted on the basis of late and inaccurate reports concerning enemy movements and positions. Post-action analysis indicates , they searched just a little too far south. Nor did they receive word of an anti-shipping strike carried out by A-20s on the Eastern Invasion Force that day.

What remained of the Western Strike Force also probed its area of responsibility on the 26th, also fruitlessly. It was noticeable that cooperation between land based air under the usually able LTGEN. L.H. van Oyen, his assistant COL E.T Kengen, and the British officer commanding that force had suddenly and inexplicably completely broken down. The British then receiving their orders from New Delhi were informed through their independent command channels upon returning to Batavia on the 27th, that they were to retreat to Ceylon. This they promptly did, leaving the western side of Java wide open to invasion. With the exception of Evertsen (a late addition to the western task force) they successfully accomplished this movement via the Sunda Strait a scant day ahead of the Japanese Western Invasion Force’s arrival. One could comment on the timing here, but let the action speak for itself.


The Eastern Invasion Force, a convoy of forty one transports accompanied by the Second Escort Force with two light cruisers and fourteen destroyers was only about sixty miles north of Surabaya by 1020 on the 27th. Rear-Admiral Takagi, Takeo, the overall commander aboard Haguro, accompanied by Nachi and two more destroyers lagged more than one hundred fifty miles behind. Apparently he did not anticipate much resistance: “The twenty mile long convoy was quite a spectacle. An obvious laxity prevailed in the transports with their ill-trained crews. Many transports emitted huge clouds of black smoke from their funnels . . . Most disturbing, however, was the dreadfully slow pace of the trailing heavy cruisers.” This over confidence was disturbed when Japanese planes sighted the Allied strike force shortly thereafter, heading on an 80 degree course at twelve knots. This sighting was confirmed about two hours later by one of Nachi’s scout planes whereupon Admiral Takagi ordered the convoy to turn north so he could close the gap. At 1340 he received an additional report that the Allies were returning to base and so had the convoy swing back to its southern course. It did not stay on this heading for long.

At 1357, February 27, a Dutch scout plane finally fixed the exact position of the Japanese Eastern Invasion Force only fifty miles north of Surabaya. (And, more importantly, sent the word of its sighting into the right hands for once.) At 1427 Admiral Doorman cleared the channel in the unknown to him minefield outside Surabaya, as he attempted ingress, when he received word of this sighting along with orders from VADM Helfrich to engage. He reversed course almost immediately, and turned back to sea, making the signal: “Am proceeding to intercept enemy, follow me.” The haste and lack of planning with which this action was taken has been criticized by many, but given the fact that the enemy was less than two hours streaming time north, it was the reasonable decision given the facts Doorman had in his possession. With a little good luck Doorman’s haste could result in a great victory. However the luck of the Dutch, so missing that day, (and throughout the war in general so far) was not present. A Japanese cruiser float plane, shot down, survived just long enough to report the Allied turnabout. Takagi, who appears to have been blissfully unaware of the circumstances into which he sailed, seemed to finally wake up to his danger. The two heavy cruisers and the two destroyers screening them finally increased speed while the convoy itself turned north once again.

FORCES ENGAGED - BATTLE OF JAVA SEA

Fates:
D1: light or superficial damage
D2: moderate damage
D3: heavy damage
D4: disabled

SUNK is self explanatory

ABDAFLOAT Combined Striking Force

TYPE.......NAME................YEAR.....DISP FL....MAIN..............SEC............TT.............SPD...................FATE
CA..........Exeter...............1931.....11,000.....6x8/50............8x4/45........6x21"........32.....................D3
CA..........Houston............1930.....11,420......9x8/55............8x5/25........................32.5..................D1
CL..........De Ruyter..........1935.......7,548.....7x5.9/50..........4x4/45........................32....................SUNK
CL..........Perth.................1936.......9,150.....8x6/50............1x3/45.......8x21".........32.5..................D1
CL..........Java..................1925.......7,205.....10x5.9/50........2x3/45.......6x21".........31....................SUNK
DD.........Witte de With.....1928........1,605.....4x4.7/50..........................6x21".........36....................D1
DD.........Kortanaer..........1927........1,640.....4x4.7/50..........................6x21".........36....................SUNK
DD.........J.D. Edwards......1919........1,308.....4x4/50............1x3/50.....12x21".........35....................D1
DD.........Alden................1919........1,308.....4x4/50............1x3/50.....12x21".........35....................D1
DD.........John D. Ford......1920........1,308.....4x4/50............1x3/50.....12x21".........35....................D1
DD.........Paul Jones.........1920........1,308.....4x4/50............1x3/50.....12X21".........35....................D1
DD.........Electra..............1934........2.205.....4x4.7/45........................10x21".........35....................SUNK
DD.........Jupiter..............1938........2,330.....4x4.7/45..........................8x21".........36....................SUNK
DD.........Encounter..........1934.......2,025.....4x4.7/45.........................10x21".........36....................D1
Total......14.....................1928.....61,225

Japanese Eastern Invasion Fleet

TYPE.......NAME................YEAR.....DISP FL....MAIN..............SEC............TT.............SPD...................FATE
CA………..Haguro…………….1928……14,980……10x8/50…………8x5/40…….8x24”……..33.8………………..
CA………..Nachi……………….1929……14,980……10x8/50…………8x5/40…….8x24”……..33.8………………..SUNK
CL…………Jintsu……………….1925……..7,100……7x5.5/50……….3x3.1/40….8x24”………35.5……………….SUNK
CL…………Naka………………..1925……..7,100……7x5.5/50……….3x3.1/40….8x24”………35.5……………….SUNK
DD………..Amatsukaze…… 1939……..2,490……6x5/50……………………………8x24”……….35………………….
DD………..Asagumo…………1937……..2,370……6x5/50……………………………8x24”……….35………………….SUNK
DD………..Hatsukaze……….1939……..2,490……6x5/50……………………………8x24”……….35………………….D3
DD………..Kawakaze……….1936………1,980…..5x5/50……………………………8x24”………..34…………………D3
DD………..Sazanami…………1931……..2,427…..6x5/50……………………………9x24”……….34………………….D1
DD………..Tokitsukaze…….1939……..2,490……6x5/50……………………………8x24”……….35………………….
DD………..Ushio……………… 1930……..2,427…..6x5/50……………………………9x24”……….34…………………
DD……….Yamakaze…………1936………1,980…..5x5/50……………………………8x24”………..34…………………
DD……….Yukukaze………….1939……..2,490……6x5/50……………………………8x24”……….35………………….
DD……….Harukaze………….1922………1,720…..4x4.7/50………………………..6x21”………..37………………..
DD……….Minegumo……….1937……..2,370……6x5/50……………………………8x24”……….35………………….
DD……….Muresame……….1935………1,980…..5x5/50……………………………8x24”………..34…………………
DD……….Samidare………….1935………1,980…..5x5/50……………………………8x24”………..34…………………
DD……….Yudachi…………….1936………1,980…..5x5/50……………………………8x24”………..34…………………
Total……18………………………1933…….75,334

Torpedoes...........IJN.................ABDAFLOAT
TT.......24"..........138....................0
TT.......21".............6.................100
Totals.................144................100

TABLE 1.5 – COMPARATIVE TORPEDO CAPABILITIES

TABLE 1.5 – COMPARATIVE TORPEDO CAPABILITIES

Nation..............Type.....................Warhead Wgt (TNT equiv lbs eff)...Range (yds).............At knots
Japan...............610 mm 8th yr..........750 (340 kg).........................~20,000(?)................28........^1
Japan...............610 mm (unkn)......1,000 (?) (455 kg)....................~40,000(?)................36(?)....^2
Great Britain.....533 mm Mk IX........1000 (454 kg)............................15,000....................35........^3
Netherlands......533 mm....................350 (159 kg)...........................13,000....................28........^4
USA.................533 mm Mk 8............700 (317 kg)...........................14,000....................27........^5

Notes:

^1 The 8th year torpedo (In Japanese nomenclature also referred to as the Type 90) is apparently based on the post world war developed British Whitehead Mark X torpedo. This Japanese weapon uses the double-action two-cylinder engine copied from the Mark X rather than the four-cylinder radial engine used by first world war-era British torpedoes, which has been the previous Japanese norm. It has a significantly longer run time than we anticipated (14 m/s at 1500 seconds estimated.). It is dimensionally much larger than the British weapon from which it is copied with a length nose detonator to props, from the dud we captured, measured at ~28 ft (855 cm) and a barrel diameter of ~2 ft (61cm). Examination of the warhead reveals it to be a Shimose aluminized composition, not unfamiliar to our ordnance engineers. It's explosive force has been compared to our baseline WE-4 and equals 1.2 TNT equivalency by weight of 750 lbs (340 kg). It is a formidable weapon.

^2 This torpedo of unknown nomenclature is an entirely new weapon revealed to us. Based on observation in action and from measurements taken from recovered broken pieces from premature exploded malfunctioning torpedoes, the following has been ascertained. From barrel curvature, it appears that the weapon is a 2 ft in diameter (61 cm) as akin to the year 8 torpedo. It's length from what remains we have cannot be much longer than 30 feet, (915 cm) as we believe that is the practical handling length for such a monster weapon on the ships we encountered that used it. Based on eyewitness reports of explosions at end of runs and from launch flashes from Japanese warships which fired this weapon and from our own clocking of run times and estimates of speed we conclude that the warhead probably is no greater in TNT equivalent weight yield of ~1000 lbs (454 kg)

^3 The British MARK IX torpedo is comparable to the US Mark XV destroyer torpedo in effective performance though it has a 30% greater run time at its standard speed setting.

^4 The Dutch use the British Mark X (export version) torpedo. It is roughly comparable to the US WW I Mark VIII torpedo in performance before the Alvis Chalmers upgrades.

^5 The US Mark VIII torpedo Mod 8 used in this battle is the current (Alvis Chalmers) rebuild of the US Mark VIII Mod 5 which forms the base war stocks of our reserve destroyers. It uses the Mark V contact pistol. Users reported excessive nose wander right and a high percentage of gyro malfunctions at launch in our Mark VIII weapon that rendered approximately 40-50% of the warshots attempted ineffectual. These problems require urgent remedial action, as most of our destroyer torpedo war-stocks remain the Mark VIII mod 5 and the mod 8.

Further note: It is notable that in this surface battle, all of the combatants sunk on both sides, were, except for Nachi who succumbed to an unknown explosive event, done in by torpedoes. Though artillery gunfire severely damaged and degraded the performance of individual ABDAFLOAT ships, it had markedly little effect on the ability of the fleet as a whole to function. It was the torpedo with its sudden ability to destroy or sink ships that threw the Combined Striking Force into complete disarray and lost the battle for us.

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Material Factors:

These data tables compare the two opposing forces that fought the largest fleet surface engagement to occur since the Battle of Jutland in 1916. The table of forces engaged indicates the Japanese only slightly outmatch ABDAFLOAT in quantitative terms, the two sides being equal in heavy cruisers, ABDAFLOAT with a superior number of light cruisers and the Japanese holding the edge in destroyers. The Allied light cruisers are larger and more heavily armed on paper than their Japanese equivalents. The Japanese destroyers outgun their Allied counterparts, but this advantage is offset by the superior number of torpedo tubes on the Allied light units.

However this does not demonstrate just how great the actual Japanese superiority in weapons really is. They have a 25% advantage in guns of 4” or more (127 to 95) and a 63% more guns of 5” and more (123 to 45). They have a 36% advantage in the sheer number of pounds of ordnance they could fling per minute against ABDAFLOAT based on artillery service cycle. They have a 44% advantage in the number of torpedo tubes and this advantage is in fact far greater because we discovered that their ships could reload torpedoes from magazines while remaining in action. We suspect most of their torpedoes were of the new and unknown 24 inch model supersized long endurance torpedo they revealed in this battle for the first time, while the Year 8 model about which we knew; but previously believed to be a 21 inch model comparable to our own; is now revealed to be a supersized monster in its own right. Our torpedoes had neither the run times endurance seen in the Japanese weapons, nor did many of our weapons pack the punch of the Japanese fish carried. If it is any consolation, the Japanese seemed to have fired dozens of these weapons and missed with most of them. Our forces reported broaches, misses, corkscrewing, what appeared to be premature detonations and many end of run fail to detonates. For all the astonishing performance revealed in the Japanese weapons seen and recovered as duds, their performance was awful, or ABDAFLOAT's CSF should have been utterly destroyed without much trouble. The American torpedoes, despite the marked defects our users reported, comprising over half the Allied total, appeared to function quite well by comparison. This does not excuse our own weapons' shortcomings in run-time endurance, accuracy or guidance reliability, but it is some solace to take from this disaster, that at least when our forces came within effective employment range of the Mark VIII, they did some marked damage.

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Human Factors:

The marked Japanese advantage in material factors is only one aspect of their superiority. Two days before the battle Doorman reported to Helflich that fleet moral was critically failing. This was no exaggeration. This officer has observed that ABDAFLOAT specifically and the Allied cause in general has scant success to temper the Japanese advance and this has to affect morale in our armed services at the command levels down to the common soldier, seaman, and airman who has to look at our lack of success and question why? And it is a DAMNED GOOD QUESTION. With the failure of our submarines in the Philippines at Lingayen Gulf, the Far East Asia Army Air Forces caught on the ground and destroyed in the Clark airfield complex disaster when we knew as early as October 7th, that our airfields were being overflown by Japanese aerial reconnaissance, to the bungled "battle on the beach" and the shameful retreat down the central Luzon plain to Bataan, while the Japanese gleefully enjoyed our captured stores that GEN MacArthur foolishly stockpiled in easy to capture caches contrary to our established war-plan to stockpile all the supplies in the Bataan Redoubt. The captured stores, which should have fed our starving troops on Bataan, saved the Japanese 300,000 tonnes of shipping diverted that they would have needed to supply Homma's troops otherwise. That 300,000 tonnes instead showed up off Java.

I do not in detail recount the disasters the British suffered that contributed to the general collapse of morale, namely the destruction of Forces Y and Z at sea, the complete collapse in Malaysia and the utter route in Burma, nor the pusillanimity that this officer personally observed displayed by their lack of overall leadership, specifically GEN Wavell, which marks their chief contribution to ABDAFLOAT’s sense of a doomed command. However, this officer does note that even if Doorman had won in the east, when the British western striking force pulled out of Priok, Java was doomed to the Japanese Western Invasion Force.

As for the ABDAFLOAT Combined Striking Force, itself, their strength had been whittled away by Japanese air attacks, conducted by Rikko units, to which there was no equivalent allied response. Operational accidents, particularly accidents involving RADM Doorman’s flagship, De Ruyter, in several notable collisions; and general wear and tear; had reduced the number of ships available by several destroyers and one cruiser. Incompetent ship maintenance (Particularly the drydock incident with USS Stewart) had further reduced material resources. The men in the Combined Striking Fleet; either knew of; or had seen these events with their own eyes. Furthermore as an aggravation before the battle, the men of the fleet had had no rest from their wasted abortive sortie the night and morning before; USS Houston’s crew, for example, had stood twelve-hour watches at battle stations for two nights in a row. The men who manned the DESRON 59 were dog-tired, and their ships were tired. The strain of weeks of campaigning without a letup was beginning to tell in haggard features and tight nerves. The common fighting men had the strong suspicion that their leadership was incompetent and their material position was hopeless. Their ships were lacking maintenance and in some cases still not repaired.

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Organizational Factors:

Adding to the human and material strain were obvious organizational problems. The units in the ABDAFLOAT Combined Strike Force came from three navies, (One must consider the Royal Navy and the Royal Australian Navy the same for this purpose) speaking two languages and had not evolved common tactics, much less mutually intelligible codes or signals. The only enemy factor to offset the overwhelming catalog of Japanese advantages was determination. The carelessly confident, almost arrogant and incompetent approach of the Eastern Invasion Force convoy has been described. The Dutch, on the other hand, were down to their last throw of the dice and knew it. No other Admiral in this officer’s recent memory has fought a major sea-battle with the grim determination Doorman displayed in his conduct of this battle. It was do or die for him as he related it at that last battle conference. Bitter prophecy.

Battle:


As the Combined Striking Fleet sortied north Doorman deployed his mixed squadron in three parallel columns, heading west by northwest (course 315 degrees). The three Royal Navy destroyers led, screening the cruiser column De Ruyter, Houston, Exeter, Perth and Java to starboard, while the two Dutch and four American destroyers steamed to the port and a little behind the cruisers. Doorman restricted the speed of the entire force to 26 knots because this was damaged Kortenaer’s best speed; she was still having propulsion problems caused by her grounding prior to the Battle of Badung Strait. “Such an unorthodox deployment of forces suggested Doorman knew nothing about proven naval tactics as understood by the United States Navy. Generally, by our doctrine, destroyers should be positioned to screen the main body and deliver torpedo attacks while the light cruisers should preceed ahead of the heavy cruisers in the column, thus grouping guns by range.

The CSF was about a half-hour clear of the Surabaya entrance when, at 1530, an air raid forced the ships to scatter. The CSF had only just reformed their force when, twenty minutes later, Jintsu leading Yukikaze, Tokitsukaze, Amatsukaze and Hatsukaze were sighted. The Japanese knew the Allies were coming – spotting reports from their cruiser scout floatplanes, one which was predictably shot down by Houston, whose AA gunners were becoming famous for this stunt, Takagi received it is believed from our radio intercepts at 1500 and 1510, the first of which caused Admiral Takagi, to order his transports to turn back north to avoid contact. That movement, after a heated exchange Takagi had with the Japanese army convoy commander, who wanted to press on, wasn’t fully accomplished until 1530. Jintsu maneuvered to see the transports off to the north. As for the CSF, the Allied cruisers were in column 30,000 yards to the south. Jintsu; after making sure the IJA convoy commander turned his ships north with some friendly IJN artillery encouragement; led her destroyers due south toward the Allied column, although the odds were certainly against her. Then, nine minutes later, Nachi and Haguro screened by Ushio, Sazanami, Yamakaze and Kawakaze hove into the CSF’s view, having caught up to the battle just in time. Additional reinforcements consisting of Naka leading Murasame, Samidare, Harukaze, Yudachi, Asagumo and Minegumo steamed south parallel 13,000 yards west of the heavy cruisers, were also on the way. At 1600 Jintsu turned her group west to parallel the CSF. By 1605 the heavy cruiser group was only 13,000 yards north of the Jintsu.

Electra in the Allied van sighted Jintsu by 1612. Jintsu opened the action four minutes later at 18,000 meters. By 1617 Nachi had joined the action from 28,000 meters distance although her initial salvos fell 2,000 meters short of their target. At 1621 Doorman bent his column 20° to the west to course 295° apparently concerned that the Japanese might cross his T.

By 1627 all the Japanese columns proceeded west, parallel to the Allies. The Houston and Exeter opened fire at about 1620. Houston used red dye to mark the fall of her shells. The immense blood-red columns of water created by her straddles caused intense nervousness on the bridge of the Nachi where Takagi, a submariner by training, and his aide, Nagasawa, experienced their first surface action. Both Houston and Perth obtained hits in this initial long range duel. The first hits by the Japanese were scored when they landed a 8” shell on De Ruyter at 1631 and again at 1653. Both shells significantly were duds. At 1629 Doorman turned further to the west to a heading of 248?, apparently still concerned that the Japanese columns might cross his T with their seven-knot advantage in speed.

Admiral Nishimura commanding Naka and the destroyers of Division 4 judged that his force was not suited for a long-range gunnery duel. He led his column south, southwest across the bows of the other two Japanese columns and by 1630 he was closest to the Allies.. At 1633 Naka launched four torpedoes at a range of 15,000 meters. These torpedoes were of the new type which the Japanese introduced in this battle. The six destroyers of his division followed suit between 1640 and 1645 sending another twenty seven torpedoes toward the CSF from ranges between 15,000 to 13,000 meters. Haguro initiated a torpedo attack of her own at 1652, launching another eight at a range of 22,000 meters. Nachi was unable to add her contribution to this torpedo barrage because a valve left accidentally open had bled all the air pressure from her tubes.^1

^1 These details were copied and recorded from Japanese talk between ships (TBS) radio chatter intercepts aboard the USS Edwards, whose signals division performed outstanding intelligence gathering work during the entire battle.

All the while, the gunnery duel continued. Houston pumped salvos from her main 8” batteries at the rate of eight to ten rounds a minute, a cyclic rate previously thought to be impossible with the Mark 9 gun. De Ruyter, with her impressive forecastle and masts, and Exeter, second ship in line, seemed to be the favorite Japanese targets and were continuously shot at and mostly missed. On the Allied side observers on the Houston, Exeter and Perth all agreed that the Nachi suffered multiple hits, was set afire and sank. The Japanese torpedo barrage – their first mass torpedo attack of the war – was an utter failure: only one torpedo fired by Haguro struck a target, the Dutch destroyer Kortenaer and it was a dud.

At 1657 an Allied air strike, three A 20 Havocs, equipped for torpedo attack, escorted by eight Brewster Buffaloes flew over the battle and attacked the Japanese transports. They scored three hits out of six drops and claimed two transports sunk, although it appears only one sank and one was disabled. The Japanese claimed that Zeros from Bali jumped this attack and shot every plane down, but pictures taken by one Allied pilot confirmed the actual attack’s success and refute the Japanese claims. Doorman’s pleas for direct air support at this moment of the battle had gone unheeded, apparently because of British influence that insisted the ABDA-AIR arm be a completely separate force from the ABDAFLOAT naval arm and follow its own completely separate program. Eight fighters, even the rotten and essentially worthless Brewster Buffaloes, could have made a decisive contribution to the CSF’s survival by shooting down the cruiser floatplanes deployed so effectively by the Japanese, but that was not to be.

By 1702 Takagi apparently realized and saw to the north the gunfight in progress and realized that the battle was drifting dangerously close to his transports he was supposed to and not doing a very good job to protect. Hagura was still maintaining a conservative 20,000 meters from the Allied cruiser column and spending tremendous amounts of ammunition without results so he ordered all his ships to close and charge the enemy. At about this same time Doorman came to a similar conclusion and turned his column slightly north toward the Japanese. As the two forces closed range fortune favored the Japanese. First Houston was hit by a dud that caused her to temporarily reduce speed. Then, several minutes later, the battle’s turning point occurred. At 1708 Hagura hit Exeter hard – the shell penetrated to her boiler room taking six of her eight boilers out of line, causing her to lurch out of formation to port, on fire and rapidly lose speed. The three cruisers following Exeter assumed she was turning in accordance to orders, most likely to comb the torpedo wakes that had begun to appear again in the Allied midst, and they turned away as well. De Ruyter continued on for several moments alone.

The Allies, still ignorant of the range of the Japanese torpedoes unleashed against them believed submarines fired the salvos that made the sea seem “alive with torpedoes running from all quarters” and not ships barely visible on the distant horizon. Perth, privy to communication channels with Exeter the other cruisers didn’t share, realized the Royal Navy cruiser was stricken and further disordered the formation by circling around her cousin making smoke. The sea around the milling Allied ships was punctuated by random eruptions caused by the Japanese torpedoes as they sometimes exploded at the end of their runs. Then, at 1713, one torpedo, out of more than fifty fired in this latest series of salvoes, met something more substantial: Kortenaer and for once it functioned as its makers intended. Hit midships by a half ton of explosives, the Dutch destroyer broke in halves and sank almost immediately. The Allies were in complete disarray by this point. De Ruyter finally turned south to find her missing flotilla. Takagi believing, at this point that he had won the battle ordered the transports to turn south. In the first hour of action up to 1720, the Japanese fired by count 1,200+ rounds of 8” shells and scored five hits, only one of which detonated. The Allies had fired approximately half as many shells and they only had the Nachi sunk to show for it. Shooting by both sides was terrible and the results poor.

It took Doorman almost twenty minutes to regain control of his fleet. Exeter, screened by Withe de With and the three British destroyers streamed south, southeast at about five knots. De Ruyter circled around flying her “follow me” flag and repositioned herself at the head of the remaining cruisers and the American destroyers on a heading south by southeast, ahead and to the starboard of Exeter. She turned back northeast around 1725, cutting across the course of Exeter. By this time visibility was poor due to defensive smoke laid by both sides. The Allies had been making the more smoke, the Exeter was burning and twilight was deepening. The Japanese columns were at times invisible to the CSF. The Japanese did not suffer from this condition to the same extent thanks to their spotter planes which remained active and vigilant through out the daylight battle and would continue to do so through the night.

As the Exeter limped away, Jintsu and her eight destroyers, with the Naka and six destroyers south and slightly west of the Jintsu group, gathered to the northwest to finish her off.

At 1745 the Allied cruisers emerged from the smoke on their northerly heading to see the this attack forming up. Moreover, the Japanese force, Hagura leading, bore east and were crossing Doorman’s T. As they did so, they reopened fire from about 19,500 meters.

Doorman ordered the British destroyers to counterattack the Japanese light forces that were coming on hard in four columns. Jintsu’s eight destroyers steamed east-southeast in two columns of four, about 2,000 meters apart and about 6,000 meters southwest of the Hagura. Jintsu herself was on the starboard side of the two columns equally distant from the Naka and her six destroyers also bearing east-southeast.

The second mass torpedo attack began at 1748 and lasted until 1807. The Hagura was first to launch at Exeter from long range. The light cruiser leaders fired next at 1750 from 18,500 yards (Naka) and 1754 (Jintsu) before turning away. The Jintsu's destroyers launched one after the other as they reached 15,000 meters and reversed course. The Naka’s destroyers closed to 10,000 yards except for the Asagumo and Minegumo which continued independently to 6,500 meters before launching. The British destroyers Encounter and Electra swung first south, then east and finally northeast to meet this threat, breaking through the smoke to take on the two light cruisers and fourteen destroyers. The Minegumo and Encounter exchanged fire between 1800 and 1810 on a parallel course at ranges down to 3,000 meters without inflicting much damage or hitting anything. Electra, however, scored a direct hit on the Asagumo’s engine room from 5,000 meters, which caused her to go dead in the water. Electra also landed one shell on Jintsu which did some damage, killing one and wounding four. As Asagumo slowed to a stop, she got her revenge and then some with two serious shell hits on Electra shortly after 1800. Then a torpedo hit her. The British destroyer, heavily on fire, sank at 1816; the American submarine S38 rescued 54 of her crew the next morning. Tokitsukaze was also hard hit by shellfire in this action. The Japanese fired ninety-two torpedoes in this attack, scoring but a single hit.

The De Ruyter column made a full circle and by 1750 resumed a southeast heading parallel to the Exeter and her two escorts. Doorman instructed the American destroyers to cover his withdrawal at 1808, an order the American destroyer men interpreted offensively. From 1810 the four American destroyers charged almost due north to within 8,000 meters of the Japanese cruisers. They fired their starboard torpedoes at 1822 and then turned and discharged their port torpedoes as well, launching twenty four to thirty torpedoes in all (Accounts are unclear as to the exact numbers DESRON 59 had embarked in available torpedo loads at this time.). Chased by Japanese salvos, they then hurried back to the south. It was this barrage which claimed variously Jintsu, Naka, and the luckless Asagumo in a shocking riposte in which these vessels spectacularly exploded and sank, showing off the power of the new American composition 4F torpedo explosives. This attack definitely encouraged Takagi to turn his force north. At about the same time Perth scored a hit on Haguro igniting a large fire on her catapult, but otherwise doing no other damage.

At 1820 as the sun set, it appeared the battle was over. The Japanese were on a disorderly northerly course while the CSF were heading south, licking their own wounds. Takagi, with his destroyers low on fuel and conscious of his primary task, to see the convoy (only 30 miles northwest of his position) through to Java, ordered the transports south and west once again.

Doorman, after the American destroyer attack, must have become overconfident as he saw the Japanese retire in disarray. He sent Exeter back to Surabaya escorted by Witte de With while he gathered up his scattered force to resume the attack. The CSF main force continued southeast, as he did this, for several minutes until all Japanese ships had disappeared in the dark. At 1831 he signaled “Follow Me” and swung back initially to the northeast, and then northwest, hoping to surprise the transports in the darkness.

The Japanese were ignorant of the Allied turn, but acted instinctively under the assumption the CSF might make another attempt against the transports. Moreover, that had two spotter planes in the air. At 1920 the Japanese were proved correct when the Jintsu column, now minus Jintsu, and with Yukikaze leading it, with eight destroyers in trail, sighted the De Ruyter column with Houston, Perth, Java and the Jupiter screening to port and the four American destroyers to starboard rear. The two forces were on a parallel course heading north with the Japanese 17,500 meters to port. The Haguro was also to the port, slightly north of the Allies at a range of 16,000 meters stopped and recovering two seaplanes. Perth and Houston opened fire at 1933 and Yukikaze replied with four torpedoes. Observing this launch, the Allied ships turned individually to starboard at 1936. The Japanese increased speed, made smoke and withdrew northeast. Apparently the Allies never sighted the heavy cruiser recovering her seaplanes although Hagura briefly opened fire at 1937. The short engagement was quickly over with neither side suffered any damage.

Doorman, knowing there would be no future opportunities to defend Java, attempted to circle around the Japanese by taking his force inshore along the Java coast. At 2100 the four American destroyers, out of torpedoes and low on fuel, continued in their practice of interpreting Doorman’s instructions independently returned to Surabaya.^2

^2 Up to now CAPT Binford of DESRON 59 had demonstrated excellent combat acumen and fulfilled his duties as a subordinate in an efficient and sometimes superlative manner. His torpedo attack had been a textbook example of the evolution and there was little to fault him for his performance. However; it was at this juncture, that he took it upon himself to decide to quit the battle. His reasons; that his destroyers were low on fuel and that his force had expended all of the torpedoes allotted to it, might under other circumstances have been good ones for requesting permission to withdraw, and even receiving it: but he did not do that. He abandoned his duty in the middle of the battle. There is no other word for it.

At 2125, just as Doorman was turning his force back to the north, Jupiter struck a Dutch mine, exploded and sank almost immediately. At 2200 the force came upon survivors from Kortenaer. Encounter was detached and rescued one hundred and thirteen of her crew.

These two foolish actions and Binford's unauthorized retirement cost Doorman his entire destroyer force. Without a screen the four Allied cruisers proceeded north until they were sighted by a lookout on the Haguro at 2302 at a range of 16,000 meters. At this time the Haguro was headed south southwest. The Haguro swung to the port toward the Allies and assumed a parallel course heading due north. The Allies opened fire at 2310 on the Japanese heavy cruiser. The Japanese didn’t return fire until 2321. At 2322 Haguro launched eight torpedoes, followed a few minutes later with another salvo of four, showing how fast the Japanese could reload in the middle of a battle. The range was approximately 14,000 meters. In contrast to the hundreds of torpedoes launched previously and uselessly, these two salvoes told. The De Ruyter was hit aft at 2332 by one of Haguro’s first eight, exploding her ammunition and killing Doorman along with three hundred forty-four of his crew. She sank very quickly. Two minutes later one of Haguro's second spread struck Java. She took an hour and a half to sink. Doorman’s last known orders to the Houston and Perth were to retire to Batavia and ignore survivors.

The Battle of the Java Sea lasted seven hours, and was a defeat, due to the determination of Admiral Doorman. His handling of his fleet indicated that he felt any risk was justified regardless of the odds or the unlikely probability of success; he demanded a decisive result and he got one. The long range shooting on both sides was generally ineffective, despite the spotting aircraft the Japanese were able to employ. Collectively the Japanese heavy cruisers fired 1,600 heavy shells, about two thirds their total supply and obtained only five hits, four of which were duds. The light cruisers fired an additional 221 5.5” shells to this bombardment with no hits (save perhaps on Electra). The Allied cruisers may have scored at least twenty hits, and they obtained many straddles. The Japanese torpedo attacks were also ineffective until the final Japanese salvoes from Haguro. Despite the Japanese reputation for excellence in torpedo tactics and the superior qualities of their weapons, they only obtained five hits out of one hundred fifty two torpedoes fired, a two percent hit rate. By contrast, the one Allied torpedo attack by DESRON 59 had used perhaps thirty torpedoes and scored enough strikes in the two salvoes to sink Naka, Jintsu and Asagumo; two light cruisers and a destroyer. The Allies lost two light cruisers and one destroyer to torpedoes, all launched by the Haguro, one destroyer was destroyed accidentally by mining, and one destroyer to a combination of gunfire and a stray torpedo. One heavy cruiser was heavily damaged by gunfire. The Japanese convoy continued and began landing troops at Kragan forty miles west of Surabaya the next day.

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Tactical Factors:

1. Japanese air reconnaissance was decisive. Doorman's CSF often lost track of Takagi and Nishimura during the critical moments of maneuver between gun and torpedo engagements because of the offensive and defensive smoke screens each side employed. Japanese scout planes, even at night, kept Takagi and Nishimura mostly informed about where the CSF was in relation to their forces and in what direction Doorman moved because they had an overhead view and had well trained in day and night spotting. Japanese use of night flares was especially critical in the final Haguro torpedo attacks.

2. Though both sides acted as if they were headless chickens at key moments, the Japanese tended to stay together and in formation. They remained in coherent tactical units. Except for DESRON 59, the CSF at times operated as if it was three independent formations, with the cruisers doing one thing, the British doing another, and the Dutch off by themselves out front not coordinating, though Doorman was supposed to be the officer in tactical command. In contrast after Jintsu and Naka went down and Nishimura had to swim for it, one does not see a breakdown in Japanese discipline. He took up his command in hand again in Yukikaze and resumed the battle with dispatch. Takagi, in Haguro, took six hours to straighten himself out, but at the end it was his flagship that coup de mained Doorman and sent the CSF fleeing in defeat.

3. Finally, one has to question the whole exercise. Doorman may have misused his gun-line, and frittered away his destroyers (or have them desert), but the question must be raised, why did he fight at all, once it became known that the British western striking force had departed and left Java uncovered to the Japanese Western Invasion Force? One must conclude that Dutch pride and Helfrich may have influenced Doorman. On more than one occasion, this commanding officer has seen VADM Conrad Helfrich, play the personal honor and cowardice cards against his allies and his own subordinates to the overall detriment of ABDAFLOAT and the interests of the Allies in this war. One's personal opinion should stay out of an objective report, but it is an observation that politics, especially at this stage of the war, when the allies need a success somewhere, anywhere, should not be a determinant in dictating prudent military action to conserve and preserve resources for a future use-hopefully when the chances of success are more certain than in this irredeemably doomed exercise in futility.

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