Thompson political dynasty

At first, you had me confused, since I think of Tommy as Governor Thompson, and you seemed to have been repeating yourself. Curiously, both Thompsons were the longest-serving governors of their respective states.

It sounds to me though that Big Jim was a little earlier than the other two. What if he gets elected as a dark horse in the early 90's (or late '80's after something unexpected happens to Reagan). Later, Fred Thompson gets elected in 2000, and chooses Tommy Thompson for a cabinet position (like Health and Human Services). Then, the unthinkable happens in 2001, and Fred, his VP, the Speaker, and a large portion of the cabinet are assassinated in simultaneous terrorist attacks. The first person in the line of succession to survive...Tommy.

Okay, it sounds kind of more like a satire than a realistic timeline. Although it kind of shows how really possible I think it is for Tommy to become president. Then, you've got to find a way to add in the other ten Thompson politicians I found on the Thompson surname wiki page... although probably not as president since some are from Canada and Australia.

Perhaps I should start a new thread to discuss rather than continuing to hijack this one? The gangster President here is interesting in its own right, and I'm sorry for polluting it with my misconceptions
 

JoeMulk

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I'm very tempted to create a scenario where Governor Thompson, Tommy Thompson, and Fred Thompson are all elected President. Problem is they are all Republicans, and the time period in which they could be President is around the same time for all of them. And you can't have that long a period of unquestioned Republican control of the Presidency unless the Democrats have truly screwed up royally.

The other problem is that there is no way in hell Governor Thompson, for all his success in Illinois, for all his budget hawk credentials with the exception of the pension problem, could make it through a Republican primary.

I think that Republican primary voters tend to value social conservative credentials over fiscally conservative credentials, and socially Thompson was a definite moderate of the type the Republican base would despise. Same thing, as far as I know applies to Tommy Thompson.

hmm the only Democratic Thompson that I can think of is former New York City comptroller Bill Thompson who ran against Bloomburg for mayor of New York in 2009.
 
Perhaps I should start a new thread to discuss rather than continuing to hijack this one? The gangster President here is interesting in its own right, and I'm sorry for polluting it with my misconceptions

Agreed, in afterthought, I probably shouldn't have said anything. Apologies to OP.
 
Wondering if this thread could use a second attempt?
I would suggest that. This threads seems to have gotten polluted by misconceptions on what it would be about (which I admit I myself am a party in). I would repost this thread as something like "Nucky Johnson Political Dynasty", give a short OP blurb, and then just quote any of our posts that actually involved discussing the topic so far in the OP and go from there.
 
OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD...

I have got a really good one but I'll need help from all of you. Any bites? PM me.

Trust me... this one is sooooooo good. :cool:

(EDIT: This is one on which I may need some assistance from RogueBeaver: Undoubtedly one of my AH.com idols...)
 
Why not just post it here?

Because I saw some debate on here as to whether or not this thread was still legitimate considering the error in its title and the resulting discussion.

But since you insist...

RogueBeaver's High Wire Eire in which the Kennedys became involved in British politics instead of American got me to thinking about the fate of the Fitzgerald family in a world in which the Kennedys remained in Europe...

So: After the death of Mabel Jeffries Johnson in 1912 somehow Rose Fitzgerald meets and falls for the charming and wealthy Atlantic City Treasurer Enoch Johnson... and likewise.

A forbidden love perhaps but love nonetheless, and one resulting in marriage and children.

This does two things: Creates an evil JFK analog and perhaps keeps Johnson from peeving off William Randolph Hearst thus keeping Enoch out of jail (potentially) long enough to "legitimize" his business dealings and help push his son all the way to the White House in 1960.

Perhaps even forming a Special Relationship with Prime Minister Kennedy or something... Just a thought.

P.S. I like the "dark camelot" concept with the Rat Pack/Vegas kinda thing.
 

JoeMulk

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1960, Senator Enoch Johnson Jr (R)-New Jersey surprisingly managed to pull of upset victories in a number of key primary states with his well-disciplined political machine. At the GOP convention he somehow managed to upstage Vice President Nixon to get the parties nomination. Allegations to this day also abound for how Johnson managed to ratfuck the Kennedy campaign and sabatoge there organization, allowing Hubert Humphrey to gain the Democratic nomination and prevent the election from being between two northeastern Irish-Catholics. Johnson was able to peal off this normally Democrat leaning constituency along with many other white ethnics to sail to victory, in spite of the allegations of mafia connections which continued throughout the campaign, and Nixon's endorsement of the Humphrey-Smathers ticket and many Republicans voting for him as a write-in.

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(R) Johnson/Lodge 307
(D) Humphrey/Smathers 230
 

JoeMulk

Banned
Because I saw some debate on here as to whether or not this thread was still legitimate considering the error in its title and the resulting discussion.

But since you insist...

RogueBeaver's High Wire Eire in which the Kennedys became involved in British politics instead of American got me to thinking about the fate of the Fitzgerald family in a world in which the Kennedys remained in Europe...

So: After the death of Mabel Jeffries Johnson in 1912 somehow Rose Fitzgerald meets and falls for the charming and wealthy Atlantic City Treasurer Enoch Johnson... and likewise.

A forbidden love perhaps but love nonetheless, and one resulting in marriage and children.

This does two things: Creates an evil JFK analog and perhaps keeps Johnson from peeving off William Randolph Hearst thus keeping Enoch out of jail (potentially) long enough to "legitimize" his business dealings and help push his son all the way to the White House in 1960.

Perhaps even forming a Special Relationship with Prime Minister Kennedy or something... Just a thought.

P.S. I like the "dark camelot" concept with the Rat Pack/Vegas kinda thing.

;) I like the sound of that
 
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