This doesn't seem right... (Po Valley history)

While doing some research about the ancient Gaulish tribes in northern Italy, I stumbled upon these maps:

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...did this guy smoke something, or did the Adriatic Sea really go that far inland? I know that the coast of Veneto used to look quite different back then, but... yeah.
 
This is the first time I've ever seen a map like this. Not in human history at least. It seems wrong. I think this might be an alt history map.
 
I also thinks it’s an alt history map, i’m Italian and i’ve never seen this, some cities in the ‘Padan Sea’ that exist in modern-day Italy have been founded by the Etruscans and Romans so it can’t be right.

Problem is, the guy who posted them did not treat them as alternate history. But there is a lot of pseudo-history going on in the italophone corners of the internet, so the fact he made shit up does not surprise me.
 
Sometimes Italians make shit up with some fake proof, that happened many times, I saw maps showing the Vescovade of Trento reaching Bologna and Istria for example, most of these maps are really credible but when you’re unfamiliar with the claim it’s always better to double check

HOW. I mean, if it had really reached Bologna, Trento would've been a regional power, and not a glorified vassal state of the Habsburg domains. Sure, the fact that Italian history is often victim to partisan interpretations by "nostalgics" of all stripes doesn't really make things any easier.
 
That claim was in fact taken from an alt-history thread which actually made some sense, I think sooner or later i’ll try to revive that thread because it was really cool, maybe I can find it and re-post everything here in a couple hours but it’ll be hard since it was a thread on 4chan archived like a year ago, it had a very interesting lore and included an independent Tyrol and stuff which is pretty cool since I’m from Trento, it wasn’t too far fetched and didn’t include a Vescovade but a Baronate and then a duchy

Must've been a weeb's pet project then. :p

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TIL Mantova is Atlantis/s

These maps are bonkers: the naming scheme in the second one (which seems to depict the runup to the Battle of Trebbia in the II Punic War) is particularly egregious, mixing Latin names and anachronistic endonyms in Lombardo or Veneto...
 
Ok wtf is that, it seems truly epic tho, btw it focused more on Carl V having a tighter grip on Italy and then having the Malfatti betray him at the battle of Flügel, I’m bout to upload that thread again

Izetta: The Last Witch. In theory, it's about a witch fighting Nazis alongside the heir to the throne of a small German principality, in practice it kind of disappointed everyone but yuri fans. :p
 

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It might be true, for something like 10000 years ago - the Po and it's tributaries are Alpine, and carry a lot of silt, so that's probably how the Lombard plain actually looked like before the sedimentation, but that's way before any civilization
 
The map seems physically correct (For what I remember the Adriatic sea had such an appendix.), but definitely temporally incorrect.
 

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Now I think I realize it

could be a map showcasing how the prehistoric geography of the land influenced the development of later cities - some settlements/villages (like Placentia) were simply destined to become cities due to the fact that they would be a important strategic location for quite some time, and this status would transfer itself from generation to generation, even though due to changing facts it no longer is so strategic
 
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