Things to consider when making an Alternate Emperor Alexios I Komnenos timeline

I assume he's going to have to wait to consolidate his power and Betrothed his Future heir to some foreign power.
Well John II did marry a Hungarian princess, but that doesn’t seem to have done much as both John and Manuel fought wars against Hungary. And I don’t know if he’d have to wait too long to consolidate considering that he was able to hold onto power despite a disastrous war with the normans. So I think a major victory at Dyrrhachium would certainly solidify his hold on power. If I were in his shoes I’d begin warring with the Turks as soon as i had armies capable of attacking the barely established and unstable Turks.
 
So @ImperialxWarlord Italy is lost and Anatolia is the next target, okay.

Well John II did marry a Hungarian princess, but that doesn’t seem to have done much as both John and Manuel fought wars against Hungary. And I don’t know if he’d have to wait too long to consolidate considering that he was able to hold onto power despite a disastrous war with the normans. So I think a major victory at Dyrrhachium would certainly solidify his hold on power. If I were in his shoes I’d begin warring with the Turks as soon as i had armies capable of attacking the barely established and unstable Turks.
But wouldn't Alexios have to deal with the Pechenegs? Would there still be a Battle of Levounion?
 
So @ImperialxWarlord Italy is lost and Anatolia is the next target, okay.


But wouldn't Alexios have to deal with the Pechenegs? Would there still be a Battle of Levounion?
Yes, as was the plan. Anatolia was absolutely necessary where as Italy wasn’t.

And I’m not sure, given the butterflies it’s hard to say how that would change the war with the pechenegs. Maybe they’ll hear about alexios beating Robert and decide he’s too strong and not worth the risk. But I don’t find that to be very likely. Perhaps with his army in better shape Alexios he’ll be able to defeat the pechenegs early on. I don’t know, it’s possible but it’s up to what you believe. Overall I think the lasting effect of a major win at Dyrrhachium is that he can go on the offensive against the Turks a hell of a lot earlier, and either avoid the crusades or at least be in far greater control of it.
 
Yes, as was the plan. Anatolia was absolutely necessary where as Italy wasn’t.

And I’m not sure, given the butterflies it’s hard to say how that would change the war with the pechenegs. Maybe they’ll hear about alexios beating Robert and decide he’s too strong and not worth the risk. But I don’t find that to be very likely. Perhaps with his army in better shape Alexios he’ll be able to defeat the pechenegs early on. I don’t know, it’s possible but it’s up to what you believe. Overall I think the lasting effect of a major win at Dyrrhachium is that he can go on the offensive against the Turks a hell of a lot earlier, and either avoid the crusades or at least be in far greater control of it.
What about the Cumans
 
@ImperialxWarlord Do you have any information about the Varangians at this time, i couldn't find any specifics.
Not really. I’m not historian, just a fan of history. All I know that at this time there were a lot of Anglo Saxons in the guard. There was an exodus of Anglo Saxon nobles and warriors after William took over and many joined the guard. That’s about it, I’m not the right guy to ask.
 
Probably already been said, but either have good old Alexious actually HELP the crusaders... You know...
Or, have Alexious work with with the crusaders to take out the Suljuks, reclaim Antolia
 
Probably already been said, but either have good old Alexious actually HELP the crusaders... You know...
Or, have Alexious work with with the crusaders to take out the Suljuks, reclaim Antolia
Yeah, that would definitely help both of them out. But the crusaders would need to have a solidified command under an undisputed leader who was willing to stay around for awhile and help out before going all DEUS VULT on Jerusalem.
 
Yeah, that would definitely help both of them out. But the crusaders would need to have a solidified command under an undisputed leader who was willing to stay around for awhile and help out before going all DEUS VULT on Jerusalem.
Namely Alexious. The Crusades apperantly WANTED him to help them. and Were surprised when he didn't

Edit: Ifeel like when the whole 'DEUS VULT' theme song starts playing, any serious Millitary action dies.
 
Namely Alexious. The Crusades apperantly WANTED him to help them. and Were surprised when he didn't

Edit: Ifeel like when the whole 'DEUS VULT' theme song starts playing, any serious Millitary action dies.
This is true. But they weren’t a unified force and their goal wasn’t the restoration of the empire’s lands in anatolia but to take Jerusalem. In order to really help the empire they’d need to stay awhile and go on some major campaigns with alexios. Given how recently the Turks had taken western Anatolia I don’t think it would take too long for a united crusader-roman force to begin rolling back the Turks enough for the crusaders to move on.
 
This is true. But they weren’t a unified force and their goal wasn’t the restoration of the empire’s lands in anatolia but to take Jerusalem. In order to really help the empire they’d need to stay awhile and go on some major campaigns with alexios. Given how recently the Turks had taken western Anatolia I don’t think it would take too long for a united crusader-roman force to begin rolling back the Turks enough for the crusaders to move on.
True. That's where Alexious would have to make the risky decisions of the whole Levant thing. However, I do recall that the Fatimids did propose giving away huge portions of Judea to the crusades, peacefully. Play Crusader montage and Next minute the crusaders are seiging Egypt... :)
 
True. That's where Alexious would have to make the risky decisions of the whole Levant thing. However, I do recall that the Fatimids did propose giving away huge portions of Judea to the crusades, peacefully. Play Crusader montage and Next minute the crusaders are seiging Egypt... :)
I don’t recall them offering to give away land like that. I do recall the fatamids being a bit confused about the purpose of the crusaders. I think they thought they were just Byzantine mercenaries and offered to buy them off or something.
 
I don’t recall them offering to give away land like that. I do recall the fatamids being a bit confused about the purpose of the crusaders. I think they thought they were just Byzantine mercenaries and offered to buy them off or something.
Here is the link.

Personally I'd be a bit confused if a couple of mercenaries started massacring my people for no particular reason... Especially if the supposed employer was a ally...

The Fatimids and Byzantines were allies right?
 
Here is the link.

Personally I'd be a bit confused if a couple of mercenaries started massacring my people for no particular reason... Especially if the supposed employer was a ally...

The Fatimids and Byzantines were allies right?
Wow. Great article. I never heard about any of this. Usually when early fatamid-crusader relations come up they never say any of this.
 
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