Hate to say it, but really enjoyed Nixon's petty revenge against Reagan.
This election seems like it'll be interesting.
This election seems like it'll be interesting.
I'd prefer Bobby, the more economically progressive of the two. Also, RFK's Catholicism may temper his social liberalism, esp. in abortion, so that's better. He also can appeal to the working class of all races. Meaning to say, the New Deal Coalition hasn't disintegrated so far.
I'l take you there
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I'l take you there
The 1972 presidential election, much like it's predecessor four years earlier, would attract artists from around the country to support one side or the other.
Creedence Clearwater Revival, John Lennon, Jefferson Airplane, Hawkwind, Bob Dylan, and many others would come out in open support for Kennedy. The President was extremely popular among the musical scene and the collective imagination of the late 60's and early 70's. If four years earlier he had attracted some famous names with strong opinions, now he had a plethora of artists all ready to voice their views. A clear reflection of the politicalization of the Music Business by 1970.
In Holywood figures like Marlon Brando, coming right of his success in The Godfather, would throw his vocal support behind Kennedy and his fight for Civil Rights. Others, like Clint Eastwood would support Rocky and his moderate Republican approach.
The two pillars of the artistic movement, California in the west and New York in the east, would provide a battleground for supporters of both candidates.
George Harrison and Bob Dylan in a Concert in support of Kennedy - October, 1972.
Pop Culture in U.S. Elections - 1972, Sabrina Kent
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The Golden State, home of Governor Ronald Reagan and former Vice-President Richard Nixon, had gone Republican in every election since 1952, with the exception of the Goldwater debacle in 1964. Reagan had been confident that, with a moderate such as Rockefeller running, and his support, it wouldn't be hard to take the State. But as the polls continued to arrive throughout September and October, thing started to look dangerous for Rockefeller. By October 12th two polls indicated 52% Kennedy 45% Rockefeller 3% undecided. These numbers scared the party considerably.
The pressure would result in a Rockefeller trip through the state, visiting Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Francisco and finally Oakland for a week by mid-October. This trip is seen as having diverted time the candidate could've spent on campaign in other key states such Ohio, Pennsylvania and Illinois. In many of his speech venues, the Candidate would appear side by side with his ideological opponent within the Party, Governor Reagan, doing all he could to cyphon support from all republican camps, as well as supporters of the governor in General. His heavy campaigning in the State would lead to his recovery in the polls by late October, much to the relief of the party.
New York would prove to be the other scenario of the War for the presidency, and a odd one. A predominantly liberal and progressive fortress, it had been easily won by Kennedy four years earlier. Now, however, his opponent was a the popular governor of the State. Kennedy would campaign extensively there, more then in any other state. His rallies would prove extremely popular. One such instance would show numbers as high as 100 thousand people in his Central Park Rally. That, added with his considerable support in the art scene, helped him become a serious competitor for the state.
Rockefeller would also campaign considerably on his home turf. Rochester, Syracuse, New York city, would all house large rallies for the governor. Polling would prove inconclusive, as some indicated a easy Rockefeller victory, while others predicted a Kennedy landslide. The State would prove a mistery until the last moment.
Both candidates would campaign extensively in the state, in particular in New York City.
Robert Kennedy campaign strategy would be one of intense touring through mostly rural or industrial areas in the Rust belt and upper south. The president would travel through the Great lakes region, as well as states such as Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Virginia in hopes of securing the vote of the "common man". Kennedy's charisma, coupled with his logical connection to JFK, would do wonders to paint him as the simpathetic candidate in these areas, while Rockefeller would be perceived as a metropolitan elitist.
History of the Democratic Party, from Jackson to Clinton, Michael A. Cormack
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"....He's a man of great principle, who's been fighting for you and me four most of his life. Four years ago we as a people made the decision of naming him President. It was the right decision, no doubt about that. It was what made me realize that i could make a diference in government. Now folks, we need to make a choice once again. And heck, looking at the other guy, i would say it's no hard choice at all!"
Well folks, that was Governor Presley speech in front of City Hall. I don't know about you folks, but i know whom i'l be voting for. This has been Nick Ruppins, with a special report. Next on WHBQ: some Jailhouse Rock. See you later Memphis.
...............
As Election day rolled in, the nation was ready to see it's new leader.
On New England and the Northwest, President Kennedy would easily carry the majority. New Hampshire and Vermont would be the exceptions, remaining on the Republican side. New York would prove a great suprise to many. One, if not the most contested state in the country would be won by Kennedy with 52% of the vote. New Jersey Pennsylvania and West Virginia would also go to the President. Maryland and Delaware would be won by Rockefeller with stable margins.
The great lakes region would prove to be another of Kennedy's victory grounds. In Illinois Kennedy would secure a easy victory. Michigan would also be won with confortable numbers. Indiana would fall to Rockefeller, but in a very close race, Kennedy would carry Ohio.
In the South both Kentucky and Virginia would go Republican. Tennessee, to the surprise of few, would go to Kennedy. Governor Presley had been campaigning more then any other governor. He would tie his image directly to that of the president, and taking in consideration his popularity, that would guarantee Kennedy the state. North Carolina would also be won by the democrat, proving that the Party still held considerable influence in the South. South Carolina and Arkansas, however, would chose Rockefeller, this time proving that the Republican Party had also made great gains in the region.
Alabama, Mississipi, Georgia and Louisiana would, just like four years previously, fall to George Wallace and his American Independent Party. A victory for the governor in the south, but not as large as in 1968.
The Sunshine state would fall confortably on Kennedy's side. Texas, would prove a very close call. It would, in the end, preserve itself on the Democratic field.
In the Midwest, Rockefeller would sweep the field. Only Minnesota, a traditionally democratic stronghold, and South Dakota would go to Kennedy. The later thanks to much campaigning by Vice-President McGovern in his home state.
And finally we arrive in the West coast. California, another giant on the field, would prove, just like New York, a surprise to many. Rockefeller would carry the state by a close 51.60% of the votes. His heavy campaigning there, coupled with Reagan strong support, are seen as decisive factors. Oregon would also go Republican, while Washington would vote for Kennedy.
Hawaii would be won by the President with ease, whle Alaska would be taken by Rockefeller.
In the end, it was not really a close race. Four very succesful years, a very popular image and a oposing candidate with fairly similar views would ensure that Robert F. Kennedy won by a very good margin.
The President, with 289 electoral votes, and 56.5% of the popular vote had secured four more years.
The End and the Beginning of a Era, Marcus P. Edginton
..............
Well, that's 1972 folks. Got a lot planned for his next four years of Kenedy's term Comments and opinions aways apreciated.
The 1972 presidential election, much like it's predecessor four years earlier, would attract artists from around the country to support one side or the other.
Creedence Clearwater Revival, John Lennon, Jefferson Airplane, Hawkwind, Bob Dylan, and many others would come out in open support for Kennedy. The President was extremely popular among the musical scene and the collective imagination of the late 60's and early 70's. If four years earlier he had attracted some famous names with strong opinions, now he had a plethora of artists all ready to voice their views. A clear reflection of the politicalization of the Music Business by 1970.
In Holywood figures like Marlon Brando, coming right of his success in The Godfather, would throw his vocal support behind Kennedy and his fight for Civil Rights. Others, like Clint Eastwood would support Rocky and his moderate Republican approach.
The two pillars of the artistic movement, California in the west and New York in the east, would provide a battleground for supporters of both candidates.
George Harrison and Bob Dylan in a Concert in support of Kennedy - October, 1972.
Pop Culture in U.S. Elections - 1972, Sabrina Kent
.......................
The Golden State, home of Governor Ronald Reagan and former Vice-President Richard Nixon, had gone Republican in every election since 1952, with the exception of the Goldwater debacle in 1964. Reagan had been confident that, with a moderate such as Rockefeller running, and his support, it wouldn't be hard to take the State. But as the polls continued to arrive throughout September and October, thing started to look dangerous for Rockefeller. By October 12th two polls indicated 52% Kennedy 45% Rockefeller 3% undecided. These numbers scared the party considerably.
The pressure would result in a Rockefeller trip through the state, visiting Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Francisco and finally Oakland for a week by mid-October. This trip is seen as having diverted time the candidate could've spent on campaign in other key states such Ohio, Pennsylvania and Illinois. In many of his speech venues, the Candidate would appear side by side with his ideological opponent within the Party, Governor Reagan, doing all he could to cyphon support from all republican camps, as well as supporters of the governor in General. His heavy campaigning in the State would lead to his recovery in the polls by late October, much to the relief of the party.
New York would prove to be the other scenario of the War for the presidency, and a odd one. A predominantly liberal and progressive fortress, it had been easily won by Kennedy four years earlier. Now, however, his opponent was a the popular governor of the State. Kennedy would campaign extensively there, more then in any other state. His rallies would prove extremely popular. One such instance would show numbers as high as 100 thousand people in his Central Park Rally. That, added with his considerable support in the art scene, helped him become a serious competitor for the state.
Rockefeller would also campaign considerably on his home turf. Rochester, Syracuse, New York city, would all house large rallies for the governor. Polling would prove inconclusive, as some indicated a easy Rockefeller victory, while others predicted a Kennedy landslide. The State would prove a mistery until the last moment.
Both candidates would campaign extensively in the state, in particular in New York City.
Robert Kennedy campaign strategy would be one of intense touring through mostly rural or industrial areas in the Rust belt and upper south. The president would travel through the Great lakes region, as well as states such as Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia and Virginia in hopes of securing the vote of the "common man". Kennedy's charisma, coupled with his logical connection to JFK, would do wonders to paint him as the simpathetic candidate in these areas, while Rockefeller would be perceived as a metropolitan elitist.
History of the Democratic Party, from Jackson to Clinton, Michael A. Cormack
...................
"....He's a man of great principle, who's been fighting for you and me four most of his life. Four years ago we as a people made the decision of naming him President. It was the right decision, no doubt about that. It was what made me realize that i could make a diference in government. Now folks, we need to make a choice once again. And heck, looking at the other guy, i would say it's no hard choice at all!"
Well folks, that was Governor Presley speech in front of City Hall. I don't know about you folks, but i know whom i'l be voting for. This has been Nick Ruppins, with a special report. Next on WHBQ: some Jailhouse Rock. See you later Memphis.
...............
As Election day rolled in, the nation was ready to see it's new leader.
On New England and the Northwest, President Kennedy would easily carry the majority. New Hampshire and Vermont would be the exceptions, remaining on the Republican side. New York would prove a great suprise to many. One, if not the most contested state in the country would be won by Kennedy with 52% of the vote. New Jersey Pennsylvania and West Virginia would also go to the President. Maryland and Delaware would be won by Rockefeller with stable margins.
The great lakes region would prove to be another of Kennedy's victory grounds. In Illinois Kennedy would secure a easy victory. Michigan would also be won with confortable numbers. Indiana would fall to Rockefeller, but in a very close race, Kennedy would carry Ohio.
In the South both Kentucky and Virginia would go Republican. Tennessee, to the surprise of few, would go to Kennedy. Governor Presley had been campaigning more then any other governor. He would tie his image directly to that of the president, and taking in consideration his popularity, that would guarantee Kennedy the state. North Carolina would also be won by the democrat, proving that the Party still held considerable influence in the South. South Carolina and Arkansas, however, would chose Rockefeller, this time proving that the Republican Party had also made great gains in the region.
Alabama, Mississipi, Georgia and Louisiana would, just like four years previously, fall to George Wallace and his American Independent Party. A victory for the governor in the south, but not as large as in 1968.
The Sunshine state would fall confortably on Kennedy's side. Texas, would prove a very close call. It would, in the end, preserve itself on the Democratic field.
In the Midwest, Rockefeller would sweep the field. Only Minnesota, a traditionally democratic stronghold, and South Dakota would go to Kennedy. The later thanks to much campaigning by Vice-President McGovern in his home state.
And finally we arrive in the West coast. California, another giant on the field, would prove, just like New York, a surprise to many. Rockefeller would carry the state by a close 51.60% of the votes. His heavy campaigning there, coupled with Reagan strong support, are seen as decisive factors. Oregon would also go Republican, while Washington would vote for Kennedy.
Hawaii would be won by the President with ease, whle Alaska would be taken by Rockefeller.
In the end, it was not really a close race. Four very succesful years, a very popular image and a oposing candidate with fairly similar views would ensure that Robert F. Kennedy won by a very good margin.
The President, with 289 electoral votes, and 56.5% of the popular vote had secured four more years.
The End and the Beginning of a Era, Marcus P. Edginton
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Well, that's 1972 folks. Got a lot planned for his next four years of Kenedy's term Comments and opinions aways apreciated.
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High Ground
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High Ground
"The Bastards are going to end up blowing us all up"
Statement by President Robert F. Kennedy to Secretary of State Edmund Muskie on November 18th, 1972
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Kennedy's victory celebration wouldn't last very long, as international affairs would demand his attention shortly after his reelection.
On November 8th, 1972, a Soviet patrol, reportedly on their side of the Ussuli river would be attacked an killed by Chinese forces. The incident would spark the famous "Second Border Conflict", and nearly trigger a Nuclear War.
In 1969 a very similar conflict had arisen, when Chinese and Soviet troops clashed on Damansky island, on the same same Ussuri river. The conflict had marked a breaking point on the Sino-Soviet split. Fortunately for all, cooler heads prevailed and Chairman Mao and Premier Brezhnev came to a understanding.
Now, however, Chairman Mao was long dead, and Chairman and Paramount Leader Lin Biao ruled the nation. A man whose views on the Soviets was one of open hostility.
Tensions had been rising since his ascension to power on 1970. Large numbers of Chinese forces were being moved to the Sino-Mongolian and Sino-Soviet borders for the last two years, and now, it seemed that a war was inevitable.
The Soviet Union in no way was backing down. Fully aware of the Chinese actions, they would also increase forces on their border significantly.
Soviet troops were diverted to the chinese border
The Soviet Intelligence Aparatus had been following the events in China very closely for years. The death of Mao had triggered fears among the Soviets about a possible successor. Brezhnev had hoped that a conciliatory force might take power, but instead China was now ruled by a Hostile single-minded hardline Maoist.
During the Chinese purges following Chairman Biao ascension, Propaganda would frequently claim a the presence of Soviet spies, and their influence in trying crush China under the "reactionary feet of Russia". History has shown that, in part, they were correct. There was a presence of Soviet spies on China, trying for some time to weaken Biao's position so that another figure might step in. By late 1972, however, the Chairman had secured his position, being responsible for the death and displacement of dozens of thousands of "subersives, spies, and other traitors to the Cultural Proletariat Revolution".
Chairman Biao, aided by Jiang Qing, better known as Madam Mao, would continue to cement his position as Mao Zedong's heir, and defender of the Cultural Revolution.
Propaganda depicting Chairman Lin Biao holding the Little Red Book by the side of his
predecessor, Mao Zedong. The poster reads "Advance victoriously while following Chairman
Mao's revolutionary line"
The incident on the Ussuli river would be called a act of agression by Brezhnev and the Soviet government. Chairman Biao would proclaim that the Soviet soldiers were on the Chinese side of the river, gathering information on chinese defenses. This would be vehemently denied by Soviet authorities.
It is believed today that none of the two leaders had any interest in escalating the conflict any further. Chairman Biao was still establishing his power over China. His seat and life were in no immediate danger, but if a conflict was to spark between his country and the "northern traitors to the socialist revolution", he would prefer it to start in a later moment, when his grip over the country was more complete.
Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev, on the other hand was deeply concerned with preserving the cohesion of the Warsaw Pact in Europe, and preventing the 1969 Prague Deal from resulting in the "liberalization" of further Warsaw members. He wished to make it clear that no further dissent with Soviet doctrine would be allowed, and that Czechoslovakia was a exception, and nothing more. For that reason, continuing to divert men to the Chinese border was far from acceptable to Brezhnev. A possible war with another socialist country, and one with nuclear capability at that, was the last thing the Premier desired.
Both man, however, were too set in their positions to back down. One nation claimed to have been unjustly attacked, and the other that it was simply defending itself. In the end it took a third figure to finally put a end to the conflict.
President Robert F. Kennedy would, on Nobember 19th, 1972, make a official statement, that any Nuclear conflict between the two nations would be unnacceptable, and that it would most likely result in U.S. retaliations against the first agressor. This stance was the same held by him in 1969, and earlier by his predecessors, Lyndon B. Johnson and JFK. The threat of a two way conflict was to both China and the USSR far beyond the acceptable. For that reason, the conflict would begin to die out by late November.
While troop presence in the border would remain quite high, no further blood would be spilled. the Soviet dead would be peacefully returned, and peace would be guaranteed for now.
The event, would be the first international situation wich would draw President Kennedy's attention after his Re-election. It wouldn't be the last, as his second term would in many ways be dominated by foreign affairs.
China Alone- A history of the Cultural Revolution, Anne Long
.................
Hope everyone enjoys. Interesting stuff in China, and a bit of foreshadowing there in the end.
"The Bastards are going to end up blowing us all up"
Statement by President Robert F. Kennedy to Secretary of State Edmund Muskie on November 18th, 1972
..............
Kennedy's victory celebration wouldn't last very long, as international affairs would demand his attention shortly after his reelection.
On November 8th, 1972, a Soviet patrol, reportedly on their side of the Ussuli river would be attacked an killed by Chinese forces. The incident would spark the famous "Second Border Conflict", and nearly trigger a Nuclear War.
In 1969 a very similar conflict had arisen, when Chinese and Soviet troops clashed on Damansky island, on the same same Ussuri river. The conflict had marked a breaking point on the Sino-Soviet split. Fortunately for all, cooler heads prevailed and Chairman Mao and Premier Brezhnev came to a understanding.
Now, however, Chairman Mao was long dead, and Chairman and Paramount Leader Lin Biao ruled the nation. A man whose views on the Soviets was one of open hostility.
Tensions had been rising since his ascension to power on 1970. Large numbers of Chinese forces were being moved to the Sino-Mongolian and Sino-Soviet borders for the last two years, and now, it seemed that a war was inevitable.
The Soviet Union in no way was backing down. Fully aware of the Chinese actions, they would also increase forces on their border significantly.
Soviet troops were diverted to the chinese border
The Soviet Intelligence Aparatus had been following the events in China very closely for years. The death of Mao had triggered fears among the Soviets about a possible successor. Brezhnev had hoped that a conciliatory force might take power, but instead China was now ruled by a Hostile single-minded hardline Maoist.
During the Chinese purges following Chairman Biao ascension, Propaganda would frequently claim a the presence of Soviet spies, and their influence in trying crush China under the "reactionary feet of Russia". History has shown that, in part, they were correct. There was a presence of Soviet spies on China, trying for some time to weaken Biao's position so that another figure might step in. By late 1972, however, the Chairman had secured his position, being responsible for the death and displacement of dozens of thousands of "subersives, spies, and other traitors to the Cultural Proletariat Revolution".
Chairman Biao, aided by Jiang Qing, better known as Madam Mao, would continue to cement his position as Mao Zedong's heir, and defender of the Cultural Revolution.
Propaganda depicting Chairman Lin Biao holding the Little Red Book by the side of his
predecessor, Mao Zedong. The poster reads "Advance victoriously while following Chairman
Mao's revolutionary line"
The incident on the Ussuli river would be called a act of agression by Brezhnev and the Soviet government. Chairman Biao would proclaim that the Soviet soldiers were on the Chinese side of the river, gathering information on chinese defenses. This would be vehemently denied by Soviet authorities.
It is believed today that none of the two leaders had any interest in escalating the conflict any further. Chairman Biao was still establishing his power over China. His seat and life were in no immediate danger, but if a conflict was to spark between his country and the "northern traitors to the socialist revolution", he would prefer it to start in a later moment, when his grip over the country was more complete.
Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev, on the other hand was deeply concerned with preserving the cohesion of the Warsaw Pact in Europe, and preventing the 1969 Prague Deal from resulting in the "liberalization" of further Warsaw members. He wished to make it clear that no further dissent with Soviet doctrine would be allowed, and that Czechoslovakia was a exception, and nothing more. For that reason, continuing to divert men to the Chinese border was far from acceptable to Brezhnev. A possible war with another socialist country, and one with nuclear capability at that, was the last thing the Premier desired.
Both man, however, were too set in their positions to back down. One nation claimed to have been unjustly attacked, and the other that it was simply defending itself. In the end it took a third figure to finally put a end to the conflict.
President Robert F. Kennedy would, on Nobember 19th, 1972, make a official statement, that any Nuclear conflict between the two nations would be unnacceptable, and that it would most likely result in U.S. retaliations against the first agressor. This stance was the same held by him in 1969, and earlier by his predecessors, Lyndon B. Johnson and JFK. The threat of a two way conflict was to both China and the USSR far beyond the acceptable. For that reason, the conflict would begin to die out by late November.
While troop presence in the border would remain quite high, no further blood would be spilled. the Soviet dead would be peacefully returned, and peace would be guaranteed for now.
The event, would be the first international situation wich would draw President Kennedy's attention after his Re-election. It wouldn't be the last, as his second term would in many ways be dominated by foreign affairs.
China Alone- A history of the Cultural Revolution, Anne Long
.................
Hope everyone enjoys. Interesting stuff in China, and a bit of foreshadowing there in the end.
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Nice update. Can't wait to see what other foreign affair developments you have planned for Bobby's second term.
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I wouldn't count on Bobby's catholicism and his religious beliefs to get on his way in decision making. And yes, the New Deal Coalition has survived 1968 ITTL, and is still in effect.
Thanks! Some of it will be very similar to OTL and some of it will be original to this one. Fun stuff to read about, not so fun to witness. No more hints!
Phew. No war between the USSR and China. Good.
What's Congress' makeup ITTL?
Also, health care reform. And most of all, the SCOTUS.
RFK will certainly put different Justices to the SCOTUS. It'll be interesting how many OTL rulings will turn out.
What's Congress' makeup ITTL?
Also, health care reform. And most of all, the SCOTUS.
RFK will certainly put different Justices to the SCOTUS. It'll be interesting how many OTL rulings will turn out.
Wow. This is situation is so dangerous President Kennedy actually travels back in time to warn both sides off before the skirmish even happens.
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Oh yes, he used the presidential time travel device. Every president gets one.Wow. This is situation is so dangerous President Kennedy actually travels back in time to warn both sides off before the skirmish even happens.
Nice catch! Corrected.
Killing me softly
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Killing me softly
As 1973 rolled around the corner, President Robert Kennedy was, for the second time, sworn into office. The world was still recovering from the big scare of the "Second Border Conflict", but the President's strong stance on the situation seemed to please many. This was not, as many Republicans liked to claim, a man without foreign affairs experience. Kennedy had handled the situation with strength and decisiveness, and many compared it to his brother's handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis a decade earlier.
One man who had not handled the situation very well was Premier Leonid Brezhnev. The leader of the Soviet Union had seem in Kennedy's threats of intervention in a Sino-Soviet conflict a direct offence. Four years earlier the two man had negotiated the Prague Deal, bringing to a end the American war in Vietnam and Soviet presence in Czechoslovakia simultaneously. It was perceived around the globe as a great diplomatic breakthrough.
What it had been in fact was a calculated exchange to strengthen each individual foothold on power. It had suited the Premier, but now Kennedy wanted to police the world. Getting his country involved in matter's that did not concern them. The United States didn't even recognize the People's Republic of China legitimated status as a nation. They still clinged to the reactionary tyrant in Taiwan and his delusions. And now they wanted to tell the Chinese and the Soviets what to do?
The young man could become a headache; he would have to learn his lesson sooner than later.
Tales from the Kremlin- Brezhnev, Georgy Zhulovich
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The term Stagflation is a portmanteau of the words Stagnation and Inflation. Up to the 1970's, the two concepts were not seem as interconnected. As a matter of fact, Inflation was, in many ways, regarded as a positive boost for the economy. The idea might seem bizarre to most today, but what we hold as basic economics is, in fact, a relatively new realization on the history of the economical world.
British MP Ian Mcleod coined the term, in 1965. It would, however, only gain prominence in Britain in 1970, when the politician, now lord of the exchequer used it once again to define the economic situation of the country. He would use the term a third time, in March 1973, this time in a interview with Newsweek magazine. Now it would really become popular, and for no small reason.
The beginning of 1973 would see the American economy take a ever so slightly plunge. The term would describe the situation now faced by the United States, were a growing supply of money in face os a economy slowing down provoked adverse and negative effects.
The situation would be downplayed by many, be then politicians, economists or intellectuals. Some, however, would warn that if a external factor was added to the equation, say a decrease on the flow of a certain essential product or material, then the economy could suffer a great shock.
The external factor would come later that year, shocking both the economy, and those that failed to predict it.
The End and the Beginning of a Era, Marcus P. Edginton
................
Short update foreshadowing a couple of things. Next update tomorrow!
As 1973 rolled around the corner, President Robert Kennedy was, for the second time, sworn into office. The world was still recovering from the big scare of the "Second Border Conflict", but the President's strong stance on the situation seemed to please many. This was not, as many Republicans liked to claim, a man without foreign affairs experience. Kennedy had handled the situation with strength and decisiveness, and many compared it to his brother's handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis a decade earlier.
One man who had not handled the situation very well was Premier Leonid Brezhnev. The leader of the Soviet Union had seem in Kennedy's threats of intervention in a Sino-Soviet conflict a direct offence. Four years earlier the two man had negotiated the Prague Deal, bringing to a end the American war in Vietnam and Soviet presence in Czechoslovakia simultaneously. It was perceived around the globe as a great diplomatic breakthrough.
What it had been in fact was a calculated exchange to strengthen each individual foothold on power. It had suited the Premier, but now Kennedy wanted to police the world. Getting his country involved in matter's that did not concern them. The United States didn't even recognize the People's Republic of China legitimated status as a nation. They still clinged to the reactionary tyrant in Taiwan and his delusions. And now they wanted to tell the Chinese and the Soviets what to do?
The young man could become a headache; he would have to learn his lesson sooner than later.
Tales from the Kremlin- Brezhnev, Georgy Zhulovich
........................
The term Stagflation is a portmanteau of the words Stagnation and Inflation. Up to the 1970's, the two concepts were not seem as interconnected. As a matter of fact, Inflation was, in many ways, regarded as a positive boost for the economy. The idea might seem bizarre to most today, but what we hold as basic economics is, in fact, a relatively new realization on the history of the economical world.
British MP Ian Mcleod coined the term, in 1965. It would, however, only gain prominence in Britain in 1970, when the politician, now lord of the exchequer used it once again to define the economic situation of the country. He would use the term a third time, in March 1973, this time in a interview with Newsweek magazine. Now it would really become popular, and for no small reason.
The beginning of 1973 would see the American economy take a ever so slightly plunge. The term would describe the situation now faced by the United States, were a growing supply of money in face os a economy slowing down provoked adverse and negative effects.
The situation would be downplayed by many, be then politicians, economists or intellectuals. Some, however, would warn that if a external factor was added to the equation, say a decrease on the flow of a certain essential product or material, then the economy could suffer a great shock.
The external factor would come later that year, shocking both the economy, and those that failed to predict it.
The End and the Beginning of a Era, Marcus P. Edginton
................
Short update foreshadowing a couple of things. Next update tomorrow!
Oooh, this does not sound good. What is Brezhnev going to do that's going to have such effects?
Deleted member 92121
Sorry i didn't answer ealier, i'l post a list of the SCOTUS with the update tomorrow. I detailed the situation of congress on my post on the midterms.
Let's get it on
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Let's get it on
On the hot summer of 1973, while the United States looked within, trouble was brewing on Central Asia.
The Kingdom of Afghanistan was still a relatively new realm, not even half a century old. A successor to the ancient Emirate of Afghanistan, the Kingdom had adopted a more secular outlook, as it tried to modernize and compete with its neighbors. It's King by the 1970's was Mohammed Zahir shah, a reformer who sought to bring his nation to the global stage.
As the people faced a large crisis in unemployment and governmental inneficiency, unrest grew. Students would protest regularly on the streets of Kabul, and many academics would criticize the ancient institution that was the monarchy.
It was not only among the civilian population that unrest grew. Within the military, many officers were discontent with what they assumed was unfair promotions and treatment. Special connections and family relationships seemed to matter more than competence and experience. Therefore, within the army and the modernizing Air force, a deep dislike towards the current administration was sowed.
This insatisfaction had not gone unnoticed to Afghanistan's neighbors in the North. The Soviet Union had, for years, done much to influence and aid in the grow of the People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan, more commonly referred to as the PDPA. The Party now attracted followers within many groups of society.
In the middle of all this was Mohammed Daoud Khan, former Prime Minister and a cousin to the King. A reformer at heart, Khan stood for modernization and civil rights for the people. A longtime political player, Khan would do much to distance his image from that of his cousin, positioning himself as the progressive voice of the country.
Mohammed Daoud Khan
It's not known exactly when Khan began to plot a coup, but most experts agree it was not long before the fact. The Kings cousin would ally himself with many discontent army officers, and civil servants affiliated to the PDPA. Almost all of these belonged to the Parcham faction of the party, a more moderate group that supported a gradual move towards socialism. The main military leader of the coup was Air Force Colonel Abdul Qadir, a longtime supporter of increased relationships between Afghanistan and the Soviet Union.
The plan was for a quick and bloodless coup by mid-July, taking advantage of the King's absence, as he was in Italy performing eye surgery. As the King recovered from the succesful surgery in Rome, however, he decided he would return early to his Kingdom. Such decision complicated matters, but the plan was put in motion anyway.
On July 17th, Forces loyal to Colonel Qadir moved on the Royal palace, as Khan proclaimed a Republic on the Radio, with himself as it's leader. They expected the king to peacefully surrender to the Colonel Forces, and abdicate. That was not the result. As the forces approached the Palace and news form their intent quickly reached the guards, the palatial forces opened fire on the advancing army. The skirmish would cost the lifes of over 20 soldiers and 7 Palatial guards, as the former's found themselves unable to advance on the palace.
King Zahir would quickly call on the loyal army, which still consisted of the majority of the forces, to arrest the rebels attempting to seize the palace, as well as Qadir, much of the PDPA leadership, and his cousin Khan.
As loyalist forces quickly surrounded Qadir's troops on Kabul, they had no choice but to surrender to the superior numbers. Qadir, however, not being present, fled west and then North with a contingent of forces still loyal to him.
The following days would be some of great turmoil, as the King and his loyal forces had most of the PDPA leadership, and many intellectuals and army officers deemed untrustworthy arrested. His cousin, Daoud Khan, would be found attempting to escape Kabul, the day following the failed coup, and shot while trying to flee.
News of Khan death prompted Qadir to fly north to try to gain support of Afghanistan's northern neighbors to their cause.
And support would come, as on July 20th, 1973, two Soviet Armies entered Afghanistan, with the intent of "Aiding the revolution ongoing within the proud Nation".
Under orders from Premier Brezhnev, the "Soviet Liberation of Afghanistan" would commence.
Tales from the Kremlin - Brezhnev, Georgy Zhulovich
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Hope every enjoys! SCOTUS coming later.
On the hot summer of 1973, while the United States looked within, trouble was brewing on Central Asia.
The Kingdom of Afghanistan was still a relatively new realm, not even half a century old. A successor to the ancient Emirate of Afghanistan, the Kingdom had adopted a more secular outlook, as it tried to modernize and compete with its neighbors. It's King by the 1970's was Mohammed Zahir shah, a reformer who sought to bring his nation to the global stage.
As the people faced a large crisis in unemployment and governmental inneficiency, unrest grew. Students would protest regularly on the streets of Kabul, and many academics would criticize the ancient institution that was the monarchy.
It was not only among the civilian population that unrest grew. Within the military, many officers were discontent with what they assumed was unfair promotions and treatment. Special connections and family relationships seemed to matter more than competence and experience. Therefore, within the army and the modernizing Air force, a deep dislike towards the current administration was sowed.
This insatisfaction had not gone unnoticed to Afghanistan's neighbors in the North. The Soviet Union had, for years, done much to influence and aid in the grow of the People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan, more commonly referred to as the PDPA. The Party now attracted followers within many groups of society.
In the middle of all this was Mohammed Daoud Khan, former Prime Minister and a cousin to the King. A reformer at heart, Khan stood for modernization and civil rights for the people. A longtime political player, Khan would do much to distance his image from that of his cousin, positioning himself as the progressive voice of the country.
Mohammed Daoud Khan
It's not known exactly when Khan began to plot a coup, but most experts agree it was not long before the fact. The Kings cousin would ally himself with many discontent army officers, and civil servants affiliated to the PDPA. Almost all of these belonged to the Parcham faction of the party, a more moderate group that supported a gradual move towards socialism. The main military leader of the coup was Air Force Colonel Abdul Qadir, a longtime supporter of increased relationships between Afghanistan and the Soviet Union.
The plan was for a quick and bloodless coup by mid-July, taking advantage of the King's absence, as he was in Italy performing eye surgery. As the King recovered from the succesful surgery in Rome, however, he decided he would return early to his Kingdom. Such decision complicated matters, but the plan was put in motion anyway.
On July 17th, Forces loyal to Colonel Qadir moved on the Royal palace, as Khan proclaimed a Republic on the Radio, with himself as it's leader. They expected the king to peacefully surrender to the Colonel Forces, and abdicate. That was not the result. As the forces approached the Palace and news form their intent quickly reached the guards, the palatial forces opened fire on the advancing army. The skirmish would cost the lifes of over 20 soldiers and 7 Palatial guards, as the former's found themselves unable to advance on the palace.
King Zahir would quickly call on the loyal army, which still consisted of the majority of the forces, to arrest the rebels attempting to seize the palace, as well as Qadir, much of the PDPA leadership, and his cousin Khan.
As loyalist forces quickly surrounded Qadir's troops on Kabul, they had no choice but to surrender to the superior numbers. Qadir, however, not being present, fled west and then North with a contingent of forces still loyal to him.
The following days would be some of great turmoil, as the King and his loyal forces had most of the PDPA leadership, and many intellectuals and army officers deemed untrustworthy arrested. His cousin, Daoud Khan, would be found attempting to escape Kabul, the day following the failed coup, and shot while trying to flee.
News of Khan death prompted Qadir to fly north to try to gain support of Afghanistan's northern neighbors to their cause.
And support would come, as on July 20th, 1973, two Soviet Armies entered Afghanistan, with the intent of "Aiding the revolution ongoing within the proud Nation".
Under orders from Premier Brezhnev, the "Soviet Liberation of Afghanistan" would commence.
Tales from the Kremlin - Brezhnev, Georgy Zhulovich
...................
Hope every enjoys! SCOTUS coming later.
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Hmm, interesting idea having the coup fail and the Soviets invade Afghanistan so much earlier. Can't wait to see what the fallout is.
The Morning After
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The Morning After
"My fellow Americans, two days ago the world witnessed a act of unprovoked agression. The Kingdom of Afghanistan, a peaceful nation in central Asia suffered a coup attempt by socialists within the country's military. The coup was supported by the soviets, and because of it's failure, the Soviet Union launched a invasion of Afghanistan. We as a nation and as a people must oppose such a violent and damaging act to world peace. For the last five years my administration has worked hard in pursuit of peace. We've negotiated with the Soviets and i've spoken to Premier Brezhnev personnaly on countless occasions. Most recently yesterday, as i attempted to convince him to end this conflict. But the Soviet Union will not listen to reason, and so, Russian troops march on the once free lands of Afghanistan.
For that reason i appear here today, in front of the citizens of the United States, as well as all who might see this around the globe. I urge all of you to stand against opression, wherever it might be found. To Premier Brezhnev and the forces of the Soviet Union i say this: America will fight for justice. If not with soldiers, then with every other mean available to a free people. To the People of Afghanistan, i say this: We stand by your side. Thank you, and May God Bless the United States of America."
The speech above, made by President Kennedy two days after the soviet invasion marked a decisive moment in the history of the Cold War. In fact, a decisive moment in the history of the twentieth century itself.
The attack on the Soviet invasion of a Asian state is seem by some as ironic, considering the United States history with Vietnam. There's also, to this day, no proof that the Soviets were directly responsible for the coup attempt. In fact, evidence seems to point out that the conspirators acted largely in their own self and national interest. But they wouldn't let things like that get in the way of a good speech.
Kennedy after a long call to Brezhnev in July 21st, 1973
Up to that point, Robert Kennedy had made himself into the negotiator. From day one of his presidency, he built the image of a man of peace, a man of words and speeches and promises. It was a image that had remained deeply popular with many. His ability to fulfill said promises, and mantain a level of profissionalism that in many ways his brother never could, ensured his appeal to the working man and the business man alike.
Had he been any other man, he might have responded to the beginning of the Soviet-Afghan war with the same course of action he held before. And if he had acted as such, perhaps he would've been deeply attacked by the hawks and conservative elements of the nation, even more then he arleady was. But this was a Kennedy, and being a Kennedy meant understanding the image necessary for the moment. The face and slogan that would best sell you to the american people. Kennedy had been the peacemaker and the negotiator.
Now he would play the fighter.
The relationship Kennedy had built with Premier Leonid Brezhnev would not survive following this point. The U.S. Government attitude toward's the Soviet Union would become one of near hostility, in ways not seem since Kennedy's victory in 1968.
As Kabul fell to soviet forces, and King Zahir fled to the United States, multiple plans would be set in motion to offer clandestine support to resistance groups within Afghanistan. That was a country of mountains, and opportunities would quickly arise. The most notorious would certainly prove to be Operation Tornado, run by the CIA.
Beginning in 1973, the Kennedy Administration would make one thing quite clear. To the chagrim of many, and to the approving eyes of others.
There would be no more Detente.
The Hopes and dream of the 1970's - 1973, Will Clinton
................
To many, 1973 had arleady been a violent year. It started out with a big scare (and thankfully not a Bang) with the Second Border Conflict between China and the USSR. Then the Soviets would invade a neutral nation, leading to the American condemnation of the act and a souring of relations. Many ardent Kennedy supporters had been perplexed by the president's speech. His greatest accomplishement was arguably getting the U.S. out of a war in Asia, and now he as pushing the country into another conflict in a place most people couldn't point out in a map? The U.S. was finnaly cooling down the Cold War and now thing would get hot again? Other's claimed it was a clear defense of freedom around the globe. Many praised the president for his attack on the Soviet Union. "About damm time" more then a few certainly ushered after watching the speech. Regardless, things were changing.
And on October, they would change even more.
Yom Kippur is the most important day on the Jewish Calendar. A day of Penitance and fasting. On October 6, it would mark the beginning of a war. It would not, by any means, be a long war, or particularly bloody, but it would have massive repercussion around the globe
The situation of Israel by the early 1970's was precarious in the Middle East. Since it's foundation the country had suffered of constant hostilities with the Arab countries surrounding it. Be it a religious, geo-political or historical cause, the outcome is what matters, and what matter is that the region was as unstable as it could get.
The main rivals to Israel by that time were Egypt and Syria. Egypt, once the craddle and proudest of defenders of Pan-Arabism, had been humiliated in previous conflicts. It now desired to remedie that. Allying itself with the other top dog of the Middle East, and enjoying wide informal support of many other arab nation's, a attack would be launched on Israel on the day of October 6. The attack would seek to regain territory currently occupied by Israel. Particularly the eastern Sinai Bank for Egypt and Golan Heights for Syria. Although most experts doubt that the conflict had any intention of destroying Israel, like the previous wars did, there is no certainty to it.
The Outbreak of the war would be marked by a immediate response of the United States. For a long time the greatest supporter's of Israel, the U.S. now basking on a more agressive foreign policy would send ample financial and material support to Israel. Besides this, Military advisors would be travel to the country.
As the primordial laws of international relations dictate, the enemy of one's enemy is a friend. And so, as Israel was a ally of the United States, the Soviet Union would surely drift toward the Arab nations side. Premier Brezhnev would seek to match american support for Israel with a massive ammount of material support for both Egypt and Syria.
Israeli artillery shelling Syrian forces during the conflict.
As the war turned into a stalemate through October, however, it seemed unlikely that any of the two superpowers would be drawn more directly into the conflict.
But the damage of the war would come to the United States, not by violence, but by Embargo.
The End and the Beginning of a Era, Marcus P. Edginton
..............
Been some time since the last update. Sorry. Next update will cover the SCOTUS because i promised it and still haven't delivered. But it will come shortly.
"My fellow Americans, two days ago the world witnessed a act of unprovoked agression. The Kingdom of Afghanistan, a peaceful nation in central Asia suffered a coup attempt by socialists within the country's military. The coup was supported by the soviets, and because of it's failure, the Soviet Union launched a invasion of Afghanistan. We as a nation and as a people must oppose such a violent and damaging act to world peace. For the last five years my administration has worked hard in pursuit of peace. We've negotiated with the Soviets and i've spoken to Premier Brezhnev personnaly on countless occasions. Most recently yesterday, as i attempted to convince him to end this conflict. But the Soviet Union will not listen to reason, and so, Russian troops march on the once free lands of Afghanistan.
For that reason i appear here today, in front of the citizens of the United States, as well as all who might see this around the globe. I urge all of you to stand against opression, wherever it might be found. To Premier Brezhnev and the forces of the Soviet Union i say this: America will fight for justice. If not with soldiers, then with every other mean available to a free people. To the People of Afghanistan, i say this: We stand by your side. Thank you, and May God Bless the United States of America."
The speech above, made by President Kennedy two days after the soviet invasion marked a decisive moment in the history of the Cold War. In fact, a decisive moment in the history of the twentieth century itself.
The attack on the Soviet invasion of a Asian state is seem by some as ironic, considering the United States history with Vietnam. There's also, to this day, no proof that the Soviets were directly responsible for the coup attempt. In fact, evidence seems to point out that the conspirators acted largely in their own self and national interest. But they wouldn't let things like that get in the way of a good speech.
Kennedy after a long call to Brezhnev in July 21st, 1973
Up to that point, Robert Kennedy had made himself into the negotiator. From day one of his presidency, he built the image of a man of peace, a man of words and speeches and promises. It was a image that had remained deeply popular with many. His ability to fulfill said promises, and mantain a level of profissionalism that in many ways his brother never could, ensured his appeal to the working man and the business man alike.
Had he been any other man, he might have responded to the beginning of the Soviet-Afghan war with the same course of action he held before. And if he had acted as such, perhaps he would've been deeply attacked by the hawks and conservative elements of the nation, even more then he arleady was. But this was a Kennedy, and being a Kennedy meant understanding the image necessary for the moment. The face and slogan that would best sell you to the american people. Kennedy had been the peacemaker and the negotiator.
Now he would play the fighter.
The relationship Kennedy had built with Premier Leonid Brezhnev would not survive following this point. The U.S. Government attitude toward's the Soviet Union would become one of near hostility, in ways not seem since Kennedy's victory in 1968.
As Kabul fell to soviet forces, and King Zahir fled to the United States, multiple plans would be set in motion to offer clandestine support to resistance groups within Afghanistan. That was a country of mountains, and opportunities would quickly arise. The most notorious would certainly prove to be Operation Tornado, run by the CIA.
Beginning in 1973, the Kennedy Administration would make one thing quite clear. To the chagrim of many, and to the approving eyes of others.
There would be no more Detente.
The Hopes and dream of the 1970's - 1973, Will Clinton
................
To many, 1973 had arleady been a violent year. It started out with a big scare (and thankfully not a Bang) with the Second Border Conflict between China and the USSR. Then the Soviets would invade a neutral nation, leading to the American condemnation of the act and a souring of relations. Many ardent Kennedy supporters had been perplexed by the president's speech. His greatest accomplishement was arguably getting the U.S. out of a war in Asia, and now he as pushing the country into another conflict in a place most people couldn't point out in a map? The U.S. was finnaly cooling down the Cold War and now thing would get hot again? Other's claimed it was a clear defense of freedom around the globe. Many praised the president for his attack on the Soviet Union. "About damm time" more then a few certainly ushered after watching the speech. Regardless, things were changing.
And on October, they would change even more.
Yom Kippur is the most important day on the Jewish Calendar. A day of Penitance and fasting. On October 6, it would mark the beginning of a war. It would not, by any means, be a long war, or particularly bloody, but it would have massive repercussion around the globe
The situation of Israel by the early 1970's was precarious in the Middle East. Since it's foundation the country had suffered of constant hostilities with the Arab countries surrounding it. Be it a religious, geo-political or historical cause, the outcome is what matters, and what matter is that the region was as unstable as it could get.
The main rivals to Israel by that time were Egypt and Syria. Egypt, once the craddle and proudest of defenders of Pan-Arabism, had been humiliated in previous conflicts. It now desired to remedie that. Allying itself with the other top dog of the Middle East, and enjoying wide informal support of many other arab nation's, a attack would be launched on Israel on the day of October 6. The attack would seek to regain territory currently occupied by Israel. Particularly the eastern Sinai Bank for Egypt and Golan Heights for Syria. Although most experts doubt that the conflict had any intention of destroying Israel, like the previous wars did, there is no certainty to it.
The Outbreak of the war would be marked by a immediate response of the United States. For a long time the greatest supporter's of Israel, the U.S. now basking on a more agressive foreign policy would send ample financial and material support to Israel. Besides this, Military advisors would be travel to the country.
As the primordial laws of international relations dictate, the enemy of one's enemy is a friend. And so, as Israel was a ally of the United States, the Soviet Union would surely drift toward the Arab nations side. Premier Brezhnev would seek to match american support for Israel with a massive ammount of material support for both Egypt and Syria.
Israeli artillery shelling Syrian forces during the conflict.
As the war turned into a stalemate through October, however, it seemed unlikely that any of the two superpowers would be drawn more directly into the conflict.
But the damage of the war would come to the United States, not by violence, but by Embargo.
The End and the Beginning of a Era, Marcus P. Edginton
..............
Been some time since the last update. Sorry. Next update will cover the SCOTUS because i promised it and still haven't delivered. But it will come shortly.
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