There'll be a hot time in the town of Berlin....

Let Patton off his leash.
Yeah, that way he can bash his own head in against the germans in Metz even earlier!!!
Seriously the man was a sorry general, with a big ego, and a poor understanding of the
any operations above a tactical level and letting him have greater operational control isn't
about to do the Allies any good.
 

The Vulture

Banned
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that there was a tacit agreement with the Soviets to allow them to take Berlin. Afraid I can't source that, so I might be wrong.
 
Invade France in 1943.

Consider the opposite. No D-Day or a failed D-day (there is a current thread on this one). Germany has more forces to slow down the Soviets in the east. The European war is still going in August, 1945 when the Americans get The Bomb.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that there was a tacit agreement with the Soviets to allow them to take Berlin. Afraid I can't source that, so I might be wrong.

I believe that is why the Americans stopped at the Elbe. But without an OTL D-day in 1944, there would be no such agreement.
 
Yeah, that way he can bash his own head in against the germans in Metz even earlier!!!
Seriously the man was a sorry general, with a big ego, and a poor understanding of the
any operations above a tactical level and letting him have greater operational control isn't
about to do the Allies any good.
I'm frowning at you, sir. Frowning very deeply.

On topic, yes, no broad-front would have done it, but that would have required some changes earlier on. I believe the Western Allies supply structure, while massive, might not have been fast enough to keep up with Patton leading a blitzkreig.
 

Markus

Banned
....but was wondering if there would have been a way for the western allies to have reached Berlin before the Russians....

1. Close the Falaise pocket without delay and several ten thousand Germans don´t escape. Thus the German front will stabilize closer to the German border giving a Market-Garden like operation a better chance of success(the SS-units that defended Armhem escaped from Falaise).

2. Take the town of Antwerp and secure the approaches to the port and the supply shortages are butterfield away.

2. Battle of the Bulge: Instead of trying to hold the center(Bastogne) the Americans reinforce the flanks, counterattack from there and cut off the entire German forces.

And last but not least, American forces could have reached Berlin around the same time as the Russians in OTL if they had not been ordered to stop.
 
Market Garden works. The Red army was in no fit to advance after the finish of Operation Bagration ( Simply due to supply problems ) and if the Western allies are over the Rhine in September '44 then the German army in the west cannot hold on for a few months.
 
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