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What precedent? Not letting Corptocracy control the government? Breaking up trusts which were destructive to the market and the American worker and thereby saving the US from greater trouble down the road as dissent rose among those workers with more radical movements?It is not what he did that makes him the worst, it is what he set the precedent for.
Oh, the horror. Look, I'm not sure about Civil rights, but social and economic reform elsewhere was on the horizon with the Progressives and all of it things that've been shown to be needed over time and if they were implemented about a century ago, it'd of saved us a hell of a lot of trouble we've been going through now.I look at all the posts here and everyone seems to be in love with the Progressives. "They wanted Universal Healthcare", "They would make a stronger Military", "They would begin the civil rights movement earlier" and so much of that crap.
In Bizarro reality. So, they called for regulating the economy, breaking up trusts, worker and citizen rights within a Democracy and fighting the Laissez Faire ideology which is the back bone of Fascism, and they're Fascists?Don't people realize that the Progressives are just the American version of Fascists.
Yes, like the right to eat poisoned meat or have a monopoly screw you out of your job and force you to by all goods from a corporate shop at jacked up prices. And they went around the system by passing laws in Congress and orchestrating social movements. The tyrants!They want to do what is best for you by any means neccesary, even if that means going around the system and breaking all of our liberties.
The Progressives were generally always at odds with the Communists, Socialists and eventually Fascists and might I add that many Americans took a novel fancying to the Fascists before WW2 any way. Likewise, FDR was not a Progressive but rather a Social Liberal, and did not keep us in a Depression that would have magically resolved in 7 years otherwise, no. The United States was one of the hardest hit nations by the Depression and its industry and economy collapsed totally. Likewise, where you get the rest of the world recovering in 7 years and recovering from just sitting on their hands and waiting for the market to resolve it is mind boggling. I'd say most nations didn't recover until during or after WW2, and those had been attempting the same sort of thing we were which was beginning a slow recovery out, though to varying degrees of intervention. And what knocked the Depression out elsewhere was the stimulus of having massive build up to fight Germany (and that is Keynesianism in every way the New Deal was, save concerned with the military rather than the infrastructural).The progressives were in love with people like Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Mussolini, Franco, and even Hitler untill about 1941. The Progresives allowed FDR to do all the crap that kept us in the Depression not 7 years, like the rest of the world, but instead till the early 40's.
Yes, the path of being a global superpower, the leader of politics and societal change, and getting screwed over economically and socially in recent times from conservative/Laissez Faire policies which, unlike Rooosevelt, deregulated the market, turned a blind eye to social change, and trusted businessmen to do what was right. It's all Roosevelts fault.Now this is not all Theodore's fault DIRECTLY, however, he is responsible indirectly. His policies created a precendent that almost every president has followed since. This precedent has sent us down the path so very far, only the people can change it now.
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