Their Cross to Bear: An Alternate Reformation Timeline

Hi everyone,

While I don't have another update for TCtB, I have just started posting my new Timeline focusing on the effects of Lenin and Stalin being killed in July 1917 in the Post-1900 forum. If you are interested in what I have been up to for the last couple of months you can learn more here.

I hope everyone is enjoying their summer.

Best regards,

Zulfurium
 
Ach, you had me excited for a moment there...

I like the twist of having the Zapolyas represent the Catholic restorationist cause in Hungary, quite realistic given their rather mercenary behavior IOTL. I must say, of all the writers of Early Modern TLs, you seem to be the one most capable of capturing the actual feel - the real weft and weave - of the period.

Also, I wonder if all the attention Livonia is receiving - whether military or trade related - will leave it more prosperous or more devastated than IOTL...
 
Ach, you had me excited for a moment there...

I like the twist of having the Zapolyas represent the Catholic restorationist cause in Hungary, quite realistic given their rather mercenary behavior IOTL. I must say, of all the writers of Early Modern TLs, you seem to be the one most capable of capturing the actual feel - the real weft and weave - of the period.

Also, I wonder if all the attention Livonia is receiving - whether military or trade related - will leave it more prosperous or more devastated than IOTL...

Sorry to disappoint, I do hope you will give my new TL a chance :p

That was my thought on the Zapolya. IOTL their decision to support the various reformed branches was, more than anything else, a matter of securing the support of the reformist Hungarian nobility against the Catholic Habsburgs. Here the relationship is reversed.

I am honored to hear that you think so, I personally feel that the place I have done the worst job of ITTL has been the Iberian Peninsula - which is a major reason why your own TL has impressed me so much.

I mean IOTL Livonia went through a twenty-year war for control of the region, and was subsequently turned into the central battleground between the PLC, Sweden and Russia IOTL, so at this point - I think that it is better off. As part of the extended Imperial lake that the Baltic has largely been turned into, it becomes part of a dense trade network - so I do think it will be better off (as long as it avoids the major pitfalls of the period and the Imperial system remains somewhat stable).

I had a period of extensive civil wars across most of Europe planned for the next several decades, with the Jagiellon mess, French shitshow and English repeated civil wars taking center stage. The Empire was also going to run into a series of crises as Johannes gets older and older and his quality of leadership steadily declines.

BTW, if anyone wants to have a fully spoiler-filled conversation or just a general discussion about the time period, I am always happy to talk.
 
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