The Yankee Dominion: A Map and World Building Project

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Nazi Space Spy, May 12, 2018.

Loading...
  1. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2017
    Location:
    Taxachusetts
    After looking at this, I'm drawing up a new map.
    upload_2018-11-17_22-33-9.png
    This should just be Pontianak, since it would totally try and gain land from another sultanate. I just don't think that Lanfeng would survive, since it depended on the Qing dynasty back when it was around.
    So, for right now, this is what we have for Borneo:
    upload_2018-11-17_22-36-0.png
    1. Sultanate of Pontianak
    2. Sultanate of Bulungan
    3. Sultanate of Kutai

    the grey regions are as of yet still unnamed.

    Here's my suggestions:
    Large eastern state: Sultanate of Banjar
    Western small state: Sultanate of Tanjungpura
    Eastern small state: Sultanate of Kotawaringin

    The third one i'm not sure of, and even the second one is one the fence since the Sultanate is ancient, however Tanjungpura has historically been a major trading center and port, so...
     
    Miner and Gabingston like this.
  2. Pokemon Master What's it to you?

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2012
    Location:
    Central New Jersey
    Puerto Rico is listed twice under the Americas
     
    Gabingston and ST15RM like this.
  3. Wolfram Fair to middlin'

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2010
    Location:
    University of Houston, Houston, Texas
    Based on @Oryxslayer's maps:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    People's: 63 seats
    Heritage: 41 seats
    Federalist: 30 seats
    Reform: 9 seats
    Democratic: 3 seats
    Ecological Action: 3 seats
    Independent: 1 seat
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2018
    Miner, Temeraire, Gabingston and 7 others like this.
  4. Zyxoriv Jack of all trades, master of none.

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Location:
    Cornwall
    What exactly is the ideology of the People's Party.
     
    Gabingston and TimTurner like this.
  5. Wolfram Fair to middlin'

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2010
    Location:
    University of Houston, Houston, Texas
    Civil rights for minorities, leftist on economics. Mostly liberal on other domestic issues (e.g. abortion, LGBT rights), but with a small conservative wing.
     
    Gabingston, ST15RM and Zyxoriv like this.
  6. Gian Wizard of Watkins Mill Kicked

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Location:
    'Murica (do you have to ask?)
    I would like to ask why wouldn't Lanfang survive, given that it had managed to hold off the Dutch for several years even as the Qing was declining (only managing to succumb in 1884)

    Plus, it would make it far more interesting to have a surviving Chinese republic established from the 18th century onwards.
     
  7. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2017
    Location:
    Taxachusetts
    Perhaps they get pushed to the south? Like where Kotawaringin is?
     
  8. Gian Wizard of Watkins Mill Kicked

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Location:
    'Murica (do you have to ask?)
    Well, I would love for them to stay where they are (Perhaps they continue their alliance with Pontianak, especially since they had friendly relations with the Republic until the arrival of the Dutch)
     
  9. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2017
    Location:
    Taxachusetts
    @Oryxslayer
     
  10. Oryxslayer Electoral Calculator

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2017
    If Lanfang or something like it is going to exist, best to keep it where the Chinese actually have some relevance:

    [​IMG]

    But you guys should try and take more initiative - no reason why I should be judge, jury, and executioner for every minor detail. Especially since I have term papers coming up...
     
  11. Gian Wizard of Watkins Mill Kicked

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Location:
    'Murica (do you have to ask?)
    And as your religion map shows, you have the Chinese smackdab where Lanfang used to control (and I bet the proportion is higher before the anti-Chinese riots after Indonesia gained its independence)
     
    Gabingston and Oryxslayer like this.
  12. Gian Wizard of Watkins Mill Kicked

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2012
    Location:
    'Murica (do you have to ask?)
    So yeah, I think Pontianak would still be viable even without the Qing to support it. So I think the previous map could be reinstated (maybe have some small bits of land given to Pontianak, while leaving the capital* under Lanfang control)

    *said to be 40 km north of Pontianak

    [​IMG]
     
    Miner and Gabingston like this.
  13. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2017
    Location:
    Taxachusetts
    Ok then, Lanfang will be part of this. Besides, perhaps the Dutch kept it as a tributary state due to tensions from Qing China. I may want to due a bit of editing to the map, particularly in the the two small southern states since I think they should be part of Banjar. Those areas were in their prime centuries before the Dutch control, so it doesn’t make sense for them to be independent (and Banjar would get a lot of moolah if they had easier access to the straits of Malacca)
     
    Gian likes this.
  14. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2017
    Location:
    Taxachusetts
    upload_2018-11-20_22-41-10.png
    So, some revisions to my World Freedom map.

    1. Brazil and Benguela, since they are constitutional monarchies, would be considered free
    2. Russia, Belarus(sia), and Lithuania are changed to free. Reformers would want free, liberal democracies. However, perhaps they slip back into authoritarianism who knows)
    3. Added Lanfang
    Oh, and here's a map of the nation's form of government
    upload_2018-11-20_22-42-31.png
    Key (it's from SUCK):
    upload_2018-11-20_22-43-3.png
     
  15. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2017
    Location:
    Taxachusetts
    Oh, one quick note of Primorsky. I don't think that name would apply here.
    The Japanese called the Amur river "Kokuryū-kō", or the "Black Dragon River," like the Chinese Hēilóng Jiāng. IOTL, there was a group that wanted to keep the Russians north of the Amur River, so the likely name in Japanese would be Kokuryū kokka, "Amur country", or "Amuria".

    Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dragon_Society
     
    Zyxoriv likes this.
  16. Gabingston Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2018
    Location:
    Minnesota
    We can't assume that POC will vote monolithically left-wing like IOTL, things could be different. For example, the People's Party might be too left-wing on social issues for the largely Catholic Hispanics to support, unless the Heritage and Federalist parties are anti-Hispanic (whichever one is the French party shouldn't be too hostile towards Hispanics, since they both share a Latin Catholic background).
     
  17. Wolfram Fair to middlin'

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2010
    Location:
    University of Houston, Houston, Texas
    The People's Party has a sizable socially conservative wing, though. And POC don't vote monolithically left-wing - they just vote left-wing at Texas-esque rates (e.g. anywhere between 60% and 70%), and the right-wing vote is more divided.
     
    Gabingston likes this.
  18. Gabingston Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2018
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Understood, but I don't think that the French southerners would be hostile towards Hispanics, due to them both having a Latin Catholic background, so whichever party is the right-wing French party could be quite accommodating to Hispanics.
     
  19. Wolfram Fair to middlin'

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2010
    Location:
    University of Houston, Houston, Texas
    I mean, I don't really think that OTL Hispanophobia is religiously based. The Federalists don't get much Hispanic support because the Hispanic population tends to skew low-income (although the other Atlanta suburban seat is far from out of reach), and Heritage doesn't get much Hispanic support because its voters tend to be opposed to immigrants in general, the same way their OTL counterparts (hardcore Trump supporters) are.
     
    Gabingston likes this.
  20. Gabingston Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2018
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Do you think that one Hispanics accrue more wealth, that they will go from a left-wing voting block to a swing group (both ITTL and IOTL)?
     
Loading...