The Yankee Dominion: A Map and World Building Project

[Amateur Psephologist]

Senate of the Commonwealth of America

Absaroka
John Hoeven (Federalist) (2005-present)
Jon Tester (Labor) (2007-present)

Alaska
Lisa Murkowski (Progressive) (2001-present)
Dan Sullivan (Federalist) (2010-present)

Arkansas
Guillaume Alexander (Union Populaire) (1993-present)
Thomas Cotton (Rassemblement pour la Liberté) (2016-present)

Assiniboina
Andrew Scheer (Federalist) (2011-present)
Erin Weir (Progressive) (2018-present)

Bahamas
Sidney Poitier (Labor) (1989-present)
Cynthia Pratt (Progressive) (2006-present)

Cape Breton Island
Mark Eyking (Liberal) (2001-present)
Rodney MacDonald (Federalist) (2015-present)

Connecticut
Joe Lieberman (Progressive) (1989-present)
Ralph Nader (Green) (2007-present)

Delaware
Joseph Biden (Labor) (1984-present)
Tom Carper (Labor) (2004-present)

East Florida
Gwen Graham (Liberal) (2006-present)
Devin Nunes (Federalist) (2010-present)

Franklin
Jim McDermott (Labor) (1989-present)
Svend Robinson (Labor) (2002-present)

Frederica
Stephen Harper (Federalist) (2003-present)
Elaine McCoy (Progressive) (2005-present)

Georgia
Johnny Isakson (Federalist) (2002-present)
Michael Williams (Reform) (2016-present)

Hudson
Michael Gravelle (Liberal) (1999-present)
Bill Mauro (Liberal) (2008-present)

Idaho
Jon Huntsman Jr. (Federalist) (2000-present)
Sarah Palin (American Heritage) (2013-present)

Illinois
Jesse Jackson (Labor) (1991-present)
Guillaume Blythe (Labor) (2008-present)

Indiana

Thaddee Coueran (Rassemblement pour la Liberté) (1979-present)
Jacques Hood (Union Populaire) (2005-present)

Iowa
Tom Harkin (Labor) (1999-present)
Bruce Braley (Liberal) (2015-present)

Kansas
Robert Dole (Federalist) (1981-present)
Sam Brownback (American Heritage) (1999-present)

Kentucky
Mitch McConnell (Federalist) (1985-present)
Matt Bevin (Federalist) (2014-present)

Louisana
Kathleen Blanco (Union Populaire) (2003-Present)
Scott Angelle (Rassemblement pour la Liberté) (2016-present)

Maine
Olympia Snowe (Progressive) (2000-present)
Shenna Bellows (Green) (2014-present)

Manitoba
Bill Blaikie (Labor) (2003-present)
Duane Sands (Reform) (2010-present)

Maryland
Barbara Mikulski (Labor) (1988-present)
Donna Edwards (Labor) (2016-present)

Massachusetts
John Kerry (Liberal) (2003-present)
Katherine Clark (Green) (2015-present)

Michigan
Owen Bieber (Independent Labor) (1992-present)
Carl Levin (Labor) (1986-present)

Minnesota
Tim Pawlenty (Federalist) (2011-present)
Richard Painter (Progressive) (2017-present)

Missouri
Kit Bond (Federalist) (2011-present)
Eric Greitens (Independent Federalist) (2016-present)

Nebraska
Charles Koch (Reform) (1995-present)
Don Stenberg (Federalist) (1997-present)

New Hampshire
Gordon Humphrey (Federalist) (1987-present)
Katrina Swett (Liberal) (2002-present)

New York
Steven Rockefeller (Progressive) (2003-present)
Hillary Rodham (Liberal) (2015-present)

New Jersey
Dick Zimmer (Federalist) (1993-present)
Steve Longegan (Reform) (2014-present)

Newfoundland
Brian Tobin (Liberal) (2008-present)
Beaton Tulk (Liberal) (1998-present)

North Carolina
Elizabeth Dole (Federalist) (2006-present)
Virginia Foxx (Federalist) (2014-present)

Nova Scotia
Scott Brison (Progressive) (2007-present)
David Richard Adams (Liberal) (2015-present)

Ohio
Ted Strickland (Labor) (2012-present)
Mike DeWine (Federalist) (1997-present)

Ontario
Frances Lankin (Labor) (2008-present)
Victor Oh (Federalist) (2011-present)

Oregon
Ted Kulongoski (Labor) (2009-present)
Liz Schuler (Labor) (2014-present)

Pennsylvania
Ronald Paul (Reform) (1987-present)
Tom Wolf (Labor) (2012-present)

Pike
Pete Coors (Federalist) (2004-present)
Ken Salazar (Liberal) (2009-present)

Quebec
Brian Mulroney (Rassemblement pour la Liberté) (1985-present)
Vivian Barbot (Union Populaire) (2014-present)

Rhode Island
Lincoln Chafee (Progressive) (1999-present)
Jack Reed (Labor) (2000-present)

South Carolina
Paul Reynolds Thurmond (Federalist) (2009-present)
Tom Davis (Reform) (2014-present)

Tennessee
Bob Corker (Federalist) (2006-present)
Bill Haslam (Federalist) (2011-present)

Vermont
Howard Dean (Liberal) (2001-present)
Jim Jeffords (Progressive) (1989-present)

Virginia
Jay Rockefeller (Labor) (1990-present)
Joe Manchin (Labor) (2013-present)

Wabash
Dan Quayle (Federalist) (1993-present)
Richard Lugar (Federalist) (1982-present)

West Florida
Allen Boyd (Liberal) (2002-present)
Trent Lott (American Heritage) (2013-present)

Wisconsin
Herb Kohl (Liberal) (1991-present)
Ron Johnson (Federalist) (2011-present)

 

[Deleted member 100251]

Senate of the Commonwealth of America

Absaroka
John Hoeven (Federalist) (2005-present)
Jon Tester (Labor) (2007-present)

Alaska
Lisa Murkowski (Progressive) (2001-present)
Dan Sullivan (Federalist) (2010-present)

Arkansas
Guillaume Alexander (Union Populaire) (1993-present)
Person Person (Federalist) (-present)

Assiniboina
Andrew Scheer (Federalist) (2011-present)
Erin Weir (Progressive) (2018-present)

Bahamas
Sidney Poitier (Labor) (1989-present)
Cynthia Pratt (Progressive) (2006-present)

Cape Breton Island
Mark Eyking (Liberal) (2001-present)
Rodney MacDonald (Federalist) (2015-present)

Connecticut
Joe Lieberman (Progressive) (1989-present)
Ralph Nader (Green) (2007-present)

Delaware
Joseph Biden (Labor) (1984-present)
Tom Carper (Labor) (2004-present)

East Florida
Gwen Graham (Liberal) (2006-present)
Devin Nunes (Federalist) (2010-present)

Franklin
Jim McDermott (Labor) (1989-present)
Svend Robinson (Labor) (2002-present)

Frederica
Stephen Harper (Federalist) (2003-present)
Elaine McCoy (Progressive) (2005-present)

Georgia
Johnny Isakson (Federalist) (2002-present)
Michael Williams (Reform) (2016-present)

Hudson
Michael Gravelle (Liberal) (1999-present)
Bill Mauro (Liberal) (2008-present)

Idaho
Jon Huntsman Jr. (Federalist) (2000-present)
Sarah Palin (American Heritage) (2013-present)

Illinois
Jesse Jackson (Labor) (1991-present)
Guillaume Blythe (Labor) (2008-present)

Indiana

Thaddee Coueran (Rassemblement pour la Liberté) (1979-present)
Jacques Hood (Union Populaire) (2005-present)

Iowa
Tom Harkin (Labor) (1999-present)
Bruce Braley (Liberal) (2015-present)

Kansas
Robert Dole (Federalist) (1981-present)
Sam Brownback (American Heritage) (1999-present)

Kentucky
Mitch McConnell (Federalist) (1985-present)
Matt Bevin (Federalist) (2014-present)

Louisana
Kathleen Blanco (Union Populaire) (2003-Present)
Scott Angelle (Rassemblement pour la Liberté) (2016-present)

Maine
Olympia Snowe (Progressive) (2000-present)
Shenna Bellows (Green) (2014-present)

Manitoba
Bill Blaikie (Labor) (2003-present)
Duane Sands (Reform) (2010-present)

Maryland
Barbara Mikulski (Labor) (1988-present)
Donna Edwards (Labor) (2016-present)

Massachusetts
John Kerry (Liberal) (2003-present)
Katherine Clark (Green) (2015-present)

Michigan
Owen Bieber (Independent Labor) (1992-present)
Carl Levin (Labor) (1986-present)

Minnesota
Tim Pawlenty (Federalist) (2011-present)
Richard Painter (Progressive) (2017-present)

Missouri
Kit Bond (Federalist) (2011-present)
Eric Greitens (Independent Federalist) (2016-present)

Nebraska
Charles Koch (Reform) (1995-present)
Don Stenberg (Federalist) (1997-present)

New Hampshire
Gordon Humphrey (Federalist) (1987-present)
Katrina Swett (Liberal) (2002-present)

New York
Steven Rockefeller (Progressive) (2003-present)
Hillary Rodham (Liberal) (2015-present)

New Jersey
Dick Zimmer (Federalist) (1993-present)
Steve Longegan (Reform) (2014-present)

Newfoundland
Brian Tobin (Liberal) (2008-present)
Beaton Tulk (Liberal) (1998-present)

North Carolina
Elizabeth Dole (Federalist) (2006-present)
Virginia Foxx (Federalist) (2014-present)

Nova Scotia
Scott Brison (Progressive) (2007-present)
David Richard Adams (Liberal) (2015-present)

Ohio
Ted Strickland (Labor) (2012-present)
Mike DeWine (Federalist) (1997-present)

Ontario
Frances Lankin (Labor) (2008-present)
Victor Oh (Federalist) (2011-present)

Oregon
Ted Kulongoski (Labor) (2009-present)
Liz Schuler (Labor) (2014-present)

Pennsylvania
Ronald Paul (Reform) (1987-present)
Tom Wolf (Labor) (2012-present)

Pike
Pete Coors (Federalist) (2004-present)
Ken Salazar (Liberal) (2009-present)

Quebec
Brian Mulroney (Rassemblement pour la Liberté) (1985-present)
Vivian Barbot (Union Populaire) (2014-present)

Rhode Island
Lincoln Chafee (Progressive) (1999-present)
Jack Reed (Labor) (2000-present)

South Carolina
Paul Reynolds Thurmond (Federalist) (2009-present)
Tom Davis (Reform) (2014-present)

Tennessee
Bob Corker (Federalist) (2006-present)
Bill Haslam (Federalist) (2011-present)

Vermont
Howard Dean (Liberal) (2001-present)
Jim Jeffords (Progressive) (1989-present)

Virginia
Jay Rockefeller (Labor) (1990-present)
Joe Manchin (Labor) (2013-present)

Wabash
Dan Quayle (Federalist) (1993-present)
Richard Lugar (Federalist) (1982-present)

West Florida
Allen Boyd (Liberal) (2002-present)
Trent Lott (American Heritage) (2013-present)

Wisconsin
Herb Kohl (Liberal) (1991-present)
Ron Johnson (Federalist) (2011-present)

Blythe is supposed to be Bill Clinton, right? If so, I’d keep Obama over him, imo. Given Illinois is more Anglo then French keep Clinton in the South. Maybe as Arkansas’ Federalist?

 

[ElectricSheepNo54]

A couple of questions about these Senate proposals - how are they elected? What do they actually do? How do minor parties get representation in it? It seems a bit to similar to the US system which doesn't really work within a Westminster system.

 

[Amateur Psephologist]

Blythe is supposed to be Bill Clinton, right? If so, I’d keep Obama over him, imo. Given Illinois is more Anglo then French keep Clinton in the South. Maybe as Arkansas’ Federalist?

A while ago we agreed that Bill Blythe's father would remain alive and eventually Clinton moved to Illinois and became a Labor supporter. I'm not fully sure about it. Ask ElectricSheep.

 

[Amateur Psephologist]

A couple of questions about these Senate proposals - how are they elected? What do they actually do? How do minor parties get representation in it? It seems a bit to similar to the US system which doesn't really work within a Westminster system.

They are elected by the provincial legislatures and serve until their death. Minor parties get representation because the provincial legislatures are advised to appoint senators from any party I guess - sort of like how things go with the House of Lords, so I guess that's incorporating some of the Westminster system. And of course there are coalitions so they occasionally get their way.

 

[ElectricSheepNo54]

They are elected by the provincial legislatures and serve until their death. Minor parties get representation because the provincial legislatures are advised to appoint senators from any party I guess - sort of like how things go with the House of Lords, so I guess that's incorporating some of the Westminster system. And of course there are coalitions so they occasionally get their way.

It's just the 2 per state idea doesn't really work in such a different system. I feel provinces should be assigned a number of senators based on their population, which would mean the presence of minor parties would make more sense. Because as is, why would the legislatures elect minor party candidates?

A while ago we agreed that Bill Blythe's father would remain alive and eventually Clinton moved to Illinois and became a Labor supporter. I'm not fully sure about it. Ask ElectricSheep.

Yep, I read Bill's father planned on moving his family up to Chicago before he died. ITTL's I thought it would be an interesting butterfly for Blythe to not die, Bill Clinton is known as Bill Blythe in this timeline and he grows up in and enters politics in Chicago.

 

[ST15RM]

So i’m almost done with my wiki box on thr PM.
These are his positions:
Prime minister of the Commonwealth of America (Incumbent)
Leader of the Labor Party (Incumb.)
Leader of the Alliance (Incumb.)
MP for
Parkersburg—Buckhannon (Incumb.)
Minister of Energy (2015-17)
Jr. Minister of Nat. Resources (2012-15)
I need the Predecessors for:
MP
Minister of Energy
Jr Minister of Natural Resources
I need successors for:
Jr Minister

 

[Amateur Psephologist]

So i’m almost done with my wiki box on thr PM.
These are his positions:
Prime minister of the Commonwealth of America (Incumbent)
Leader of the Labor Party (Incumb.)
Leader of the Alliance (Incumb.)
MP for
Parkersburg—Buckhannon (Incumb.)
Minister of Energy (2015-17)
Jr. Minister of Nat. Resources (2012-15)
I need the Predecessors for:
MP
Minister of Energy
Jr Minister of Natural Resources
I need successors for:
Jr Minister

Nice!

 

[Amateur Psephologist]

It's just the 2 per state idea doesn't really work in such a different system. I feel provinces should be assigned a number of senators based on their population, which would mean the presence of minor parties would make more sense. Because as is, why would the legislatures elect minor party candidates

As for the proportional number of senators per state, NSS said that should be a movement ITTL but not the current system. As for the minor party candidates in the Senate, yeah, I probably could get rid of a few of them, although maybe one or two could state, like really prominent politicians such as Ralph Nader as the Greens' one senator.

 

[Nazi Space Spy]

As for the proportional number of senators per state, NSS said that should be a movement ITTL but not the current system. As for the minor party candidates in the Senate, yeah, I probably could get rid of a few of them, although maybe one or two could state, like really prominent politicians such as Ralph Nader as the Greens' one senator.

Keep in mind, Senators are elected by State Legislatures for a life term. The party controlling (or holding a plurality, kingmaker in coalition, etc, etc) at the time influences who gets the seats. Some I’m rethinking like Ron Paul in Pennsylvania, plus the homegrown monarchy could potentially mean a system based on the House of Lords.

I’m decidedly against a proportional Senate at the onset though. That would play out in the game itself once we complete all the preplanning.

 

[Amateur Psephologist]

Keep in mind, Senators are elected by State Legislatures for a life term. The party controlling (or holding a plurality, kingmaker in coalition, etc, etc) at the time influences who gets the seats. Some I’m rethinking like Ron Paul in Pennsylvania, plus the homegrown monarchy could potentially mean a system based on the House of Lords.

I’m decidedly against a proportional Senate at the onset though. That would play out in the game itself once we complete all the preplanning.

Yay, so the whole House of Lords thing will happen.

Yeah, I like the idea of it playing out in the game itself as well, that's what I was trying to describe.

 

[ST15RM]

Wait what game?

 

[Nazi Space Spy]

Yay, so the whole House of Lords thing will happen.

Yeah, I like the idea of it playing out in the game itself as well, that's what I was trying to describe.

Maybe. We’ll talk it out more.

The game @ST15RM is just the continuation thread.

 

[ST15RM]

Maybe. We’ll talk it out more.

The game @ST15RM is just the continuation thread.

i still don’t understand.
Like what’s the game about?
Is it politics? Like i need details.

 

[Nazi Space Spy]

i still don’t understand.
Like what’s the game about?
Is it politics? Like i need details.

No it’s the same as Our Fair Country. Just more detailed worldbuilding.

 

[ST15RM]

No it’s the same as Our Fair Country. Just more detailed worldbuilding.

Aahhh. I thought it was like an actual game, like a competition.

 

[Nazi Space Spy]

Aahhh. I thought it was like an actual game, like a competition.

My bad, I should have been clearer. This would be an interesting concept for a spin-off character type game though - however I'm not the guy to start that nor is this thread the place for that, but if someone wants to do that in Shared Worlds that'd definitely catch my attention.

I envision the continuation thread being like Our Fair Country, True North, Hail Britannia, or American Commonwealth. Basically we'll be posting updates to the timeline as they transpire in real time. Of course, our world will be vastly different from that of the original AC thread, but it'll be the same in principle.

 

[ST15RM]

My bad, I should have been clearer. This would be an interesting concept for a spin-off character type game though - however I'm not the guy to start that nor is this thread the place for that, but if someone wants to do that in Shared Worlds that'd definitely catch my attention.

I envision the continuation thread being like Our Fair Country, True North, Hail Britannia, or American Commonwealth. Basically we'll be posting updates to the timeline as they transpire in real time. Of course, our world will be vastly different from that of the original AC thread, but it'll be the same in principle.

Alright. I was thinking of doing something like the National Parks, after I got some wikiboxes done. And I also want to do the world map in Q-bam (maybe worlda)
You know, maybe @Zyxoriv could do the Green and Grey wikipedia map.

 

[Gian]

Alright. I was thinking of doing something like the National Parks, after I got some wikiboxes done. And I also want to do the world map in Q-bam (maybe worlda)
You know, maybe @Zyxoriv could do the Green and Grey wikipedia map.

I'm kind of doing the map of TTL's Gran Colombia, so if you mind waiting a little...

 

[Oryxslayer]

My bad, I should have been clearer. This would be an interesting concept for a spin-off character type game though - however I'm not the guy to start that nor is this thread the place for that, but if someone wants to do that in Shared Worlds that'd definitely catch my attention.

I envision the continuation thread being like Our Fair Country, True North, Hail Britannia, or American Commonwealth. Basically we'll be posting updates to the timeline as they transpire in real time. Of course, our world will be vastly different from that of the original AC thread, but it'll be the same in principle.

This is why I want to get the skeleton of a world timeline out soon, so we can actually do foreign policy things related to America. Once we have a skeleton, we can add meat to those bones at the same time alongside regular posts.