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Yes!! The phenomenal timeline continues. Finally we see some moves in the Caribbean, I wonder if this theater will see much more dramatic attacks than this. What would be the state of submarine warfare on a global scale at this point?

I think the British and their allies will have a good chance of eventually taking Panama and much more of Central America, as well as Colombia and the rest of Venezuela. Let the Russians take the brunt of the land fight, chip away at the overseas allies is the stated British strategy. Glad to see that they're supporting independence movements still! This would be quite the gain for their side, and maybe even force Mexico and California out of the war. (used OTL English names, you know what I mean)

I noticed that California contains a city called Smitheville at the Great Salt Lake. It’s an obvious place for a city. I wonder if I’m this world it was settled by a religious reformer by the last name of Smith who was a utopian secularist from New England who kinda took the style and ideology of Icarians and was also more of a leader like John Humphrey Noyes with a flair towards building a city on a hill far in the frontier. I imagine there’s less of a huge successful missionary experience overseas, and so immigration becomes more of a trickle over time, causing it to become integrated with the rest of California within a relatively short time, but still retain a unique religious and cultural flair.
 
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I've looked at the TL for a bit. However, I have to wonder: just how was Russia able to get Armenia and Kurdistan? And even though the Ottomans got absolutely wrecked in Europe, would they still have some strength available to keep hold in Anatolia? IMO Egypt should've also tried to gain independence during this time in order to take advantage of the chaos.

Also, considering how the Spanish American colonies wanted independence, wouldn't they not be colored blue?
 
I've looked at the TL for a bit. However, I have to wonder: just how was Russia able to get Armenia and Kurdistan? And even though the Ottomans got absolutely wrecked in Europe, would they still have some strength available to keep hold in Anatolia?
Armenians revolted to join their Orthodox Brothers-in-Arms in Russia, and the Kurds similarly revolted. They kept their independence initially because Russia had quite a bit of new land still to consolidate, but were still forced to align with Russia out of feat of being devoured by their neighbors.

I imagine that Russia's desire not to dive further into Anatolia would be similar as to why they wouldn't want to take over the Kurds directly, the need to consolidate. Also because Napoleon the Great would threaten another war with Russia. Once the French and Russians agreed to partition the Post-Turkish sphere in the 3rd Explorers' War, it was all over for their de-facto independence.

IMO Egypt should've also tried to gain independence during this time in order to take advantage of the chaos.
Assuming that you're talking about the fall of the Ottomans in the Early 1800's, Egypt did get independence.

Did you mean Syria? If so, Syria did try, but newly establish Turkish State was able to wrest control back from still-divided-among-themselves Syrians*

If you mean why Egypt isn't trying to get Independence as of the War of the Russian Succession, well there's big ol' giant French Army right next door. It wouldn't be a very pretty time for any rebel.

*Syria as of the War of the Russia Succession initially existed entirely because Russia propped them up, but after time consolidating, they can stand on their own two legs, as shown with King Fahd.

Also, considering how the Spanish American colonies wanted independence, wouldn't they not be colored blue?
I hand-waved this with A) Napoleon never overthrowing the Bourbon Monarchs, removing the initial spark that lit the Wars of Independence and B) Later Bourbon reforms rolling back on the caste system, removing some of the kindling, but enough remained for their still to be an underground Independence Movement.

admittedly, a lot of the first two maps were made just by pulling stuff out of arse and throwing it out there... Kinda just ran with it from there. I also kinda feat that I might be accidentally contradicting myself with some of this. Quite a lot to keep track of, you know, especially over the course of 3 years, on and off.
 
Armenians revolted to join their Orthodox Brothers-in-Arms in Russia, and the Kurds similarly revolted. They kept their independence initially because Russia had quite a bit of new land still to consolidate, but were still forced to align with Russia out of feat of being devoured by their neighbors.

I imagine that Russia's desire not to dive further into Anatolia would be similar as to why they wouldn't want to take over the Kurds directly, the need to consolidate. Also because Napoleon the Great would threaten another war with Russia. Once the French and Russians agreed to partition the Post-Turkish sphere in the 3rd Explorers' War, it was all over for their de-facto independence.

How was Russia able to get the Armenians to rise up? This is something I wondered why it never happened in OTL, so an explanation would be appreciated.

Assuming that you're talking about the fall of the Ottomans in the Early 1800's, Egypt did get independence.

Did you mean Syria? If so, Syria did try, but newly establish Turkish State was able to wrest control back from still-divided-among-themselves Syrians*

If you mean why Egypt isn't trying to get Independence as of the War of the Russian Succession, well there's big ol' giant French Army right next door. It wouldn't be a very pretty time for any rebel.

*Syria as of the War of the Russia Succession initially existed entirely because Russia propped them up, but after time consolidating, they can stand on their own two legs, as shown with King Fahd.

It was in green, so I assumed otherwise. Oops.

I meant the whole Ottoman thing, yeah. Before the Russia Succession war.

I hand-waved this with A) Napoleon never overthrowing the Bourbon Monarchs, removing the initial spark that lit the Wars of Independence and B) Later Bourbon reforms rolling back on the caste system, removing some of the kindling, but enough remained for their still to be an underground Independence Movement.

admittedly, a lot of the first two maps were made just by pulling stuff out of arse and throwing it out there... Kinda just ran with it from there. I also kinda feat that I might be accidentally contradicting myself with some of this. Quite a lot to keep track of, you know, especially over the course of 3 years, on and off.

I thought the Bourbon weren't there since France had Catalonia. This is quite the mistake...
 
How was Russia able to get the Armenians to rise up? This is something I wondered why it never happened in OTL, so an explanation would be appreciated.
I suppose on second consideration totally not making this up as I go along it was more that Russian armies conquered the region with little protest, with Armenians opening up the gates to the cities when presented the opportunity to do so.

I thought the Bourbon weren't there since France had Catalonia. This is quite the mistake...
I quickly realized that mistake. the first world map (from 1850), mentions that Spain would sell Florida to America, sell Catalonia to France, and France would Spain pay for America's bill (with the understanding that America would be more French-friendly wink wink nudge nudge).

yeah, I recognize that the initial set-up doesn't really hold over scrutiny. It requires some pretty large grasps to keep it together
 
I suppose on second consideration totally not making this up as I go along it was more that Russian armies conquered the region with little protest, with Armenians opening up the gates to the cities when presented the opportunity to do so.


I quickly realized that mistake. the first world map (from 1850), mentions that Spain would sell Florida to America, sell Catalonia to France, and France would Spain pay for America's bill (with the understanding that America would be more French-friendly wink wink nudge nudge).

yeah, I recognize that the initial set-up doesn't really hold over scrutiny. It requires some pretty large grasps to keep it together

Not gonna lie, some things in the TL need to be changed for the better before everything else can go forward.
 
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