The World after a different WW1
How would the world look like after a Great War like described in the excellent timeline :
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ww1-aufmarsch-ii-ost-in-maps.502420/#post-21436421
including a battle of Loraine:
and peace treaties as described in:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ope-after-a-german-cp-victory-in-1916.507429/
all by Helmuth48
I will try to make brief description of each country and the social and technological developments in a world like this. Comments and ideas are welcome.
I do not believe in the AH stereotype of a losing France will end in a fascist state or other so called “logical” course of events. There is NO logic in history.
France 1916-192ties
Direct after the armistice a period of large civil unrest started. Already weeks before the armistice Socialist and Communist staged several large strikes triggered by plans of the General command of an all or nothing offensive against the German lines.
After the armistice the social unrest only intensified. Socialist, liberals, nationalist and communist tried to keep the peace or take the power, with returning soldiers from the front acting as an armed catalysator.
Vladimir Iljitsj Oeljanov, saw in the unrest in France the long awaited opportunity for world revolution. Lenin saw more chance in success in starting a world revolution in an industrialised nation as France than in a peasant country like his mother Russia. There for he left Switserland and moved to Paris.
Lenin with Boris Souvarine and Ludovic-Oscar Frossard, formed the Communist Party and were the driving forces behind the Communist uprising in and around Paris and Liege-Roubaix.
The French Socialist, Front Populaire led by Léon Blum opposing the extremist of the communist and saw more in a parliamentary government system. In order to defeat the Communist the Front Populaire needed the support of the Nationalist and their militias formed by nationalist and disgruntled soldiers and officers. The communist uprising was quelled by extreme brutality within a month. Lenin with Boris Souvarine and Ludovic-Oscar Frossard did not survive the street battles like many others. Vladimir Iljitsj Oeljanov and Boris Souvarine bodies were draged behind automobiles and their corpses hanged on the Column of Place de la Bastile.
Around March 1917 a new government was formed and the 4th Republic was announced. Popular called the Bordeaux Republic since the Bordeaux was the provisional capital during the revolution and city where the 4th Republic was announced.
Politicly the 4th republic was very unstable were Cabinets fell nearly never completed their five year term, a successful government would made it 3 years.
Despite the political instability, France and Paris saw a remarkable cultural renaissance. The clubs and bars were full in a wave of hedonism and living by the day mostly fueld by ex soldier who tried to drown the horrors of the front. Intellectuals responded by condemning the excesses of what they considered capitalism, and demanding revolutionary changes on the cultural scenery. Literature, cinema, theatre and musical works entered a phase of great creativity. Innovative street theatre brought plays to the public, and the cabaret scene and jazz bands became very popular. Euphoria surrounding Josephine Baker in the metropolis of Paris for instance, where she was declared an "erotic goddess" and in many ways admired and respected, kindled further sensations in the minds of the French public. Impressionist, Expressionist, Avantgarde, Surrealism, Cubist, emerged or saw a revival. This all modernism had a counter movement of conservatives, Catholics and Nationalist.
The cultural movement especially that of the young men and women in France had a large effect on the young people of Germany, Austria Hungary and even Great Britain. Especially the generation of men in Germany and Austria Hungary and Russia who had to endure the horrors of the war were influenced by this. In Berlin and Vienna a similar cultural revival.
How would the world look like after a Great War like described in the excellent timeline :
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ww1-aufmarsch-ii-ost-in-maps.502420/#post-21436421
including a battle of Loraine:
Alternate Battle of Lorraine 1914
An east-first strategy and a German defense in the west has been discussed before. Still, I like to discuss in more detail such an alternate battle of Lorraine. POD: At the outbreak of the First World War, instead of deployment plan "Aufmarsch II west", Germany implements the plan "Aufmarsch II...
www.alternatehistory.com
and peace treaties as described in:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ope-after-a-german-cp-victory-in-1916.507429/
all by Helmuth48
I will try to make brief description of each country and the social and technological developments in a world like this. Comments and ideas are welcome.
I do not believe in the AH stereotype of a losing France will end in a fascist state or other so called “logical” course of events. There is NO logic in history.
France 1916-192ties
Direct after the armistice a period of large civil unrest started. Already weeks before the armistice Socialist and Communist staged several large strikes triggered by plans of the General command of an all or nothing offensive against the German lines.
After the armistice the social unrest only intensified. Socialist, liberals, nationalist and communist tried to keep the peace or take the power, with returning soldiers from the front acting as an armed catalysator.
Vladimir Iljitsj Oeljanov, saw in the unrest in France the long awaited opportunity for world revolution. Lenin saw more chance in success in starting a world revolution in an industrialised nation as France than in a peasant country like his mother Russia. There for he left Switserland and moved to Paris.
Lenin with Boris Souvarine and Ludovic-Oscar Frossard, formed the Communist Party and were the driving forces behind the Communist uprising in and around Paris and Liege-Roubaix.
The French Socialist, Front Populaire led by Léon Blum opposing the extremist of the communist and saw more in a parliamentary government system. In order to defeat the Communist the Front Populaire needed the support of the Nationalist and their militias formed by nationalist and disgruntled soldiers and officers. The communist uprising was quelled by extreme brutality within a month. Lenin with Boris Souvarine and Ludovic-Oscar Frossard did not survive the street battles like many others. Vladimir Iljitsj Oeljanov and Boris Souvarine bodies were draged behind automobiles and their corpses hanged on the Column of Place de la Bastile.
Around March 1917 a new government was formed and the 4th Republic was announced. Popular called the Bordeaux Republic since the Bordeaux was the provisional capital during the revolution and city where the 4th Republic was announced.
Politicly the 4th republic was very unstable were Cabinets fell nearly never completed their five year term, a successful government would made it 3 years.
Despite the political instability, France and Paris saw a remarkable cultural renaissance. The clubs and bars were full in a wave of hedonism and living by the day mostly fueld by ex soldier who tried to drown the horrors of the front. Intellectuals responded by condemning the excesses of what they considered capitalism, and demanding revolutionary changes on the cultural scenery. Literature, cinema, theatre and musical works entered a phase of great creativity. Innovative street theatre brought plays to the public, and the cabaret scene and jazz bands became very popular. Euphoria surrounding Josephine Baker in the metropolis of Paris for instance, where she was declared an "erotic goddess" and in many ways admired and respected, kindled further sensations in the minds of the French public. Impressionist, Expressionist, Avantgarde, Surrealism, Cubist, emerged or saw a revival. This all modernism had a counter movement of conservatives, Catholics and Nationalist.
The cultural movement especially that of the young men and women in France had a large effect on the young people of Germany, Austria Hungary and even Great Britain. Especially the generation of men in Germany and Austria Hungary and Russia who had to endure the horrors of the war were influenced by this. In Berlin and Vienna a similar cultural revival.
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