The Winds of Change OR; The Fall and Rise of Great Britain

I'm another voice for the 'move to ASB' movement, methinks. Firstly, the Labour Party of the 1950s had no interest in an electoral pact with the Liberals, for the simple reason that they sought to destroy them completely and utterly so they would be the undisputed second party, and if the yellows are on 6 seats now is the perfect time to do it.

Secondly, Lewis Hill doesn't appear to exist. Given that RB's real name is Hill, I'm going to guess he's made his great grandfather into an ATL PM.
 
I'm another voice for the 'move to ASB' movement, methinks. Firstly, the Labour Party of the 1950s had no interest in an electoral pact with the Liberals, for the simple reason that they sought to destroy them completely and utterly so they would be the undisputed second party, and if the yellows are on 6 seats now is the perfect time to do it.

Secondly, Lewis Hill doesn't appear to exist. Given that RB's real name is Hill, I'm going to guess he's made his great grandfather into an ATL PM.

How do you know my name is Hill?
 
On your profile, it says your real name is Lewis J. Hill. On second thoughts, perhaps you've just put your own name into the TL instead.
 
A small update this time, the next one will focus on Hill's policies and ideology.

CHAPTER V: 1957

1957 started off well for Hill and the government, the economy was booming due to the victory in Egypt and it seemed that Hill would see another 5 years as Prime Minister at least.

But then, an IRA attack on the Londonderry Barracks led to another heightened state of alert. The attack killed 5 soldiers, the attackers were shot dead as they tried to escape.

Then the French blocked UN involvement in Algeria leading to a crisis. Hill called the French president to tell him his position;

“Mr. President, keeping Algeria is un-sustainable, you will lose in the end, you are just prolonging it and creating more French deaths than there needs to be.”

The French started to grow more hostile to Hill and the British after this and Eisenhower and Hill considered putting financial pressure on France. In the end they decided to just let the French kill their own people.

In April, the Suez Canal was re-opened to Egyptian shipping, Nasser was overthrown in a US-UK sponsored democratic revolution and had been given Cairo and the Nile Delta back.

Then polling day came around, the result was a landslide in favour of the Conservative Party;
Conservative Party: 420
Labour: 210

There was no doubt that Hill would now wait until 1962 to hold another election, in the face of this Gaitskell resigned after nearly facing a party coup and Shadow Chancellor Harold Wilson became Leader of the Opposition.

Hill gave a re-election speech;
“I would like to thank you, the British Public, for re-electing me, I promise that I will do everything that is humanely possible to serve this great nation for another 5 years.”

The next crisis to hit the Hill Ministry is the Windscale Fire in which radioactive material was released from Windscale power plant in 1957.

“A national tragedy has befallen us, we shall aid those who have been affected by this, but we shall not waver in our support for nuclear energy.”

This speech did nothing to re-assure the public of the safety of nuclear power and protests started to erupt around the Windscale / Seascale area.

 
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This is now so ASB that the ASBs are jumping off high buildings.

The IRA never had mass support from 1923-1969. Saying that they all of a sudden become some force to be reckoned with is just wrong, no matter what POD you have.

And 530 seats? Now you're just taking the piss. Baldwin couldn't even manage 500 and you expect us to believe this?
I'm sorry but this is ASB to the max. Soon the Draka will appear or something.
 
I see you've edited it from 530 seats to something equally implasible but still:

You really need to understand British politics of the time. Let's see what we know about Hill:

Elected as a Conservative on 15th May 1945, not an election day by the way, so it must've been a by-election - on a Tuesday (I know, I know, it can be anyday not just a Thursday so I'll give you that).
New seat, which is odd. What happened to Dennis Boles?

Didn't serve in either the cabinet, nor the shadow cabinet prior to his 'election' (even though the Conservatives don't do elections in the 1950s) so that's a pretty far stretch.

Served until 1965 at which point Heath takes over. So that's only going to be at least 18 years of continuous Conservative governments.... I just don't see it, at least not in the 1950s and 1960s.
 
I see you've edited it from 530 seats to something equally implasible but still:

You really need to understand British politics of the time. Let's see what we know about Hill:

Elected as a Conservative on 15th May 1945, not an election day by the way, so it must've been a by-election - on a Tuesday (I know, I know, it can be anyday not just a Thursday so I'll give you that).
New seat, which is odd. What happened to Dennis Boles?

Didn't serve in either the cabinet, nor the shadow cabinet prior to his 'election' (even though the Conservatives don't do elections in the 1950s) so that's a pretty far stretch.

Served until 1965 at which point Heath takes over. So that's only going to be at least 18 years of continuous Conservative governments.... I just don't see it, at least not in the 1950s and 1960s.

Boles died and there was no candidate for a while, that's why it says interim.

In response to the no cabinet position thing, he was one of Churchill's key advisors.

The reason for so many Tory years is that the elections will go like this:
1955 Election (Tory Vic OTL)
1957 Election (Riding the Suez Victory)
1962 Election (Riding the SPOILERS ALERTCuban Invasion)
1965 Hill resigns
1967 Election (Labour)
1972 Election (Labour)
1977 Election (Labour)
1982 Election (Labour - Riding Falklands Victory)
1987 Election (Tory - Riding the stagnating economy under Labour)
1992 Election (OTL)
1997 Election (Tory)
2002 (Labour)
2007 (Labour)
2012 (Tory)
 

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Sorry, but I'm not bothering with 1957, because HMQ would actually have intervened by now - an event normally regarded as ASB in itself, but not in this TL, I fear.

*phone rings*
"Hello, Lewis Hill's phone?"
"Ah, Mr Hill. This is the Queen. You're fired."
"You can't fire me, your Majesty, that may provoke a constitutional crisis."
"What do you mean, may provoke a constitutional crisis?! There's already an entire queue of constitutional crises which you yourself have caused! I'm throwing you out!"
"Oh yes, your Majesty? You and whose army?"
"Precisely, Mr Hill!"
 
Sorry, but I'm not bothering with 1957, because HMQ would actually have intervened by now - an event normally regarded as ASB in itself, but not in this TL, I fear.

*phone rings*
"Hello, Lewis Hill's phone?"
"Ah, Mr Hill. This is the Queen. You're fired."
"You can't fire me, your Majesty, that may provoke a constitutional crisis."
"What do you mean, may provoke a constitutional crisis?! There's already an entire queue of constitutional crises which you yourself have caused! I'm throwing you out!"
"Oh yes, your Majesty? You and whose army?"
"Precisely, Mr Hill!"

:D:D:D:D:D
 
This is ridiculous. Russia was threatening nuclear war over Suez so obviously they're going to veto any proposal to the UN Security Council. America wasn't behind it either-you've completely misjudged Eisenhower's policy, he was against colonialism not for it-he was against Suez from the start and was crucial to stopping it. Nasser cared more about being President-he wanted Egyptian national integrity, which is why he nationalized the canal in the first place. He isn't going to effectively give up half the country and the capital city.

This is complete ASB horse manure, please, for the sake of the children, please stop.
 
ITTL when Hill became PM one of his policies was that each army and police unit should have direct contact with the MoD, in case of an emergency.

The NI Government is never going to accept that the RUC can bypass it and go straight to London. That would be like a Scottish police force in 2011 bypassing the Scottish Government and going straight to London. Never mind the fact that it ignores the army and police chain of command.
To use a parallel if I have a problem at work I speak to my line manager, not the Chief Executive.

If the fictional Hill (surley makes this ASB since to be an AH people need to have actually existed?) imposed earlier Direct Rule than in @, but he'd need a reason.

Sorry, but I'm not bothering with 1957, because HMQ would actually have intervened by now - an event normally regarded as ASB in itself, but not in this TL, I fear.

Never mind Betty, his own party would have chucked him out!

@ Jack,
Even the Whirlwind might be marginal for the task shown in that chapter. From the description of what it does I'd expect it to be something in the class of the Puma, or Merlin. Still maybe the ASB sent it through time to 1956.
 
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