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This is the true reason for the thousand year war between France and England. Every time the two sides would sit down to talk peace, and the English were hosting, the French generals and diplomats would take one look at what was being served, and scream: "IT'S WAR!":mad::rolleyes:
Indeed. The poor French remember their own food (snails, slugs and various other invertebrates, all liberally covered in garlic to disguise the taste), compared it to the towering magnificence of a proper roast dinner the English were serving and, knowing their own chefs were incapable of such brilliance, declared war to try and capture such cookery for themselves.

They failed of course, regularly and with vigour, but one must admire their persistence in desperately attempting to capture a decent meal.

Indeed it wasn't just the English who suffered such envy. Look at all the fuss the French made over Alsace and Lorraine, the French desperately striving to regain Alsace because the German influenced cuisine there was far nicer than the regional cuisines in the rest of France.

If only the French could actually cook nice food themselves the history of Europe would have been far different and, I believe, far more peaceful.



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I shall remember King's next time I've popped down the road to Solihull (I'm in Acocks Green).

It's just cheap and good for after getting drunk. Like I said, kebabs are hit & miss, and I hear strange things about the scallop burgers.
 
Hmmm. Last time I went to Germany it was to lovely foggy Baden-Baden. Ok, so it was October. Anyway, the beer was good :)D) but the food was... variable. Ok, it was average. But the best thing was watching the arrival of the pigs trotter at the next table one evening. They gave that poor sod a bib. And a hat.
 
Hmmm. Last time I went to Germany it was to lovely foggy Baden-Baden. Ok, so it was October. Anyway, the beer was good :)D) but the food was... variable. Ok, it was average. But the best thing was watching the arrival of the pigs trotter at the next table one evening. They gave that poor sod a bib. And a hat.

Reminds me of the time an American friend of ours attacked a pigs head at a medieval feast. And lost.:eek::D
 
Pretty much. Standard operating procedure now seems to be Astro posts an update, you'll get a few pages of discussion, debate, and speculation on future events, and then a short while later when people start waiting for the next update it all takes a wild digression into silliness. :)


Geez, I only posted the update on Wednesday!!

And by the way, Poutine is a vile, disgusting contribution to world cuisine that should have resulted in Quebec being glassed. Repeadely. Just to be certain.:mad::mad:
 
I tend to agree with you on the poutine, Sir Dragon. But it was great fun watching them Yanks goobering it down. It's always a hoot to build up some vile concoction then foist it on somebody and watch the antics ... even better when they've been drinking.
 
Hmmm. Last time I went to Germany it was to lovely foggy Baden-Baden. Ok, so it was October. Anyway, the beer was good :)D) but the food was... variable. Ok, it was average. But the best thing was watching the arrival of the pigs trotter at the next table one evening. They gave that poor sod a bib. And a hat.

I've always found that as long as you stick to pub food, Germany is absolutely fine. It's when they try to get exciting and radical you have to worry. After six months of Lufthansa's "Star Chefs" programme offering such bizarreness as Cannelloni of Prawn with Cauliflower and Vanilla Mash and Saddle of Reindeer, Curry flavored Lentils and Aniseed Plums, they had to add the "Lufthansa Classics" of pub food to keep the German Businessman happy - it was Königsberger Klopse last month.:D
 
No one has mentioned curry sauce yet :D
Well, I always thought it was something for those from the North and Midlands. I discovered a very strange curry sauce in Hampshire. Specifically in Hook's 'Golden Dragon'. Despite the name, it is a chippy, not a chinese takeaway.

Yeah but curry sauce isn't like those things (Or even curry TBH), it's just a sauce. Closest comparison I could give is some sort of thick gravy.
The 'Dragon's curry sauce actually tastes like curry! :eek:
 
Speaking of vile, for some years I would visit Christchurch a few times a year, to see family. Anyway, for some reason McDonalds tries out a lot of things in NZ and this time they were trying out a takeaway roast meal. Beef, potatoes, vegetables. I kid you not!

It wasn't bad, given the limitations it (and I) were working under. Needless to say the trial did not appear to be successful and the option was never taken up nationally.
 
Anyway, for some reason McDonalds tries out a lot of things in NZ and this time they were trying out a takeaway roast meal. Beef, potatoes, vegetables. I kid you not!
Got a place near us that does that (not a McDonald's, an independent shop), and seems to have found enough of a market to break even, thus far.
 
This is my first post in these forums and I wanted it to be here; in one of my favourite threads. I find myself completely inadequate to the task (both in alternate history and culinary matters) but I'll give it a try. After all I'm not an axis warship so I have some chances to remain afloat for a time (until the FAA finds me and sinks me, most likely in a night attack).

My question is: OTL during Dolittle's raid one of the bombers attacked the Yokosuka and damaged the Ryuho. Is there any possibility that McElroy could have found a Japanese warship this time? Given the recent events ttl a few of those could be in need of repairs.
 
This is my first post in these forums and I wanted it to be here; in one of my favourite threads. I find myself completely inadequate to the task (both in alternate history and culinary matters) but I'll give it a try. After all I'm not an axis warship so I have some chances to remain afloat for a time (until the FAA finds me and sinks me, most likely in a night attack).

My question is: OTL during Dolittle's raid one of the bombers attacked the Yokosuka and damaged the Ryuho. Is there any possibility that McElroy could have found a Japanese warship this time? Given the recent events ttl a few of those could be in need of repairs.

Lawnchair Captain

Another lurker de-cloaks. :D Welcome and an interesting question.

As you say there are a number of IJN ships needing repair, some of which are still afloat.;) However I wonder how many would have reached home yet while their definitely desperately in need to every ship they have and about three times as many again.

I'm a bit surprised that a quick hit and run raid, especially under those conditions, with limited fuel, no real intel on targets and using what I thought were basically strategic bombers hit two warships. Was this actually planned or purely by chance?

Steve
 
Great TL AD, although if you're turning it into a self-published novel you could do with some more detail on certain events - like exactly how the FAA got the Admiralty to wrest command away from the Air Ministry.

Geez, I only posted the update on Wednesday!!

And by the way, Poutine is a vile, disgusting contribution to world cuisine that should have resulted in Quebec being glassed. Repeadely. Just to be certain.:mad::mad:

Ah well, you shouldn't have spoiled us with such a well-written TL; now the public wants more & you are doomed to write as they demand :p
As for the Poutine, that serves you right for going to Quebec then... :D
 
I tend to agree with you on the poutine, Sir Dragon. But it was great fun watching them Yanks goobering it down. It's always a hoot to build up some vile concoction then foist it on somebody and watch the antics ... even better when they've been drinking.

I think that's an answer to Sheep's eyeballs in Arabia... :p;)
 
To the list of foods non-locals will only eat when thoroughly sloshed....I give you the Balute. Mandatory "eating" for well lubricated sailors on liberty in the PI.

As far as the Doolittle raid, any damage to ships in harbor would be minimal and accidental. The bombers were carrying GP bombs not armor piercing so superficial damage at worst to any larger ships. For all the jests about morale don't discount it - OTL this was a huge shock to the Japanese, even though the material effect was nil, and don't forget all the jokes in germany about Goering (calling him "Meyer") after the first RAF raid on the Reich.

IMHO in this timeline, it might be worthwhile to plan some sort of follow-up raid in a few months to make the Japanese difficulties with splitting (even more) limited resources worse. Perhaps something from China since the situation there is better ITTL than OTL. Of course if some bright chap realizes that incendiaries on japanese cities will be ever so much more effective than high explosives searching for factories (thank you Curt LeMay) sooner rather than later even relatively smaller raids can be ugly.
 
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