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Paulo the Limey

You have a very good reputation on AH.com for clear levelheadedness, and not prone to strident nationalism. As to the use of Limey? It DEPENDS ON WHO USES IT! You, sir, are a proud Englishman. You may call yourself, or any other Englishman or woman "Limey", and there's no problem. What if a Frenchman, whether in chiding or all the way up to an angry rant uses the word? Does it roll off your back, or do you find yourself thinking: "Where's Nelson and Wellington when I need them!?":mad: It's all about the context.:) I just haven't seen any like terms to septics being used on this thread so far regarding other powers, other peoples.

I'll PM you on a little bit more on this matter.

Just to make it clear to others- I've never met any Brit who would consider being called a Limey an insult. I can't even think of a context in which it could be insulting.

Can we all agree to drop this discussion, and instead idly speculate on the upcoming naval battle?
 
Ewe really should not have said that

so the s word is forbidden but User claims kinship with the welsh and the cockneys.

I did go to Uni with a guy who joined south wales police in Swansea (aka Tall Johnny Bach) whose first arrest was was 3 guys having carnal knowledge of a sheep in a bus shelter. But I am saying nothing except its true.

and as for the cockney well that mean they want a semi in Essex and an obscener hyena so cue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-JIzWFfsPk

(and if that does not work - Billiercay dickie)
 

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so the s word is forbidden but User claims kinship with the welsh and the cockneys.

I did go to Uni with a guy who joined south wales police in Swansea (aka Tall Johnny Bach) whose first arrest was was 3 guys having carnal knowledge of a sheep in a bus shelter. But I am saying nothing except its true.

and as for the cockney well that mean they want a semi in Essex and an obscener hyena so cue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-JIzWFfsPk

(and if that does not work - Billiercay dickie)

Must have been English immigrants in Gods country! I bet they made the sheep wear masks of Eaton schoolboys.
 
Everything goes better with smilies

Or lack of it, your the only one getting upset about it.

I think the divide between the UK and USA is never bigger than when it comes to humor :confused:.

See what I did with the smileys there, just so there's no confusion

HOORAY! If the Lord had meant smilies to be a Cardinal Sin, he never would have given us the Seventies.:p:D
 
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Just to make it clear to others- I've never met any Brit who would consider being called a Limey an insult. I can't even think of a context in which it could be insulting.

Can we all agree to drop this discussion, and instead idly speculate on the upcoming naval battle?

Agreed absolutely. I'm sorry now I ever brought it up.:(:eek:
 
Frenchmen call the English les rosbifs.:)



This reminds me of when my first job after graduation. The Geordie (somebody from Newcastle, up in the North East of England) used to tease our boss, who was a proud Yorkshireman, by calling him a southerner.
Which was geographically accurate, but...

Indeed it is geographically accurate. I myself have been known to call friends from Teeside and Darlington southerners. Mainly because it really winds them up, but hey. What's life without a bit of smoggy baiting? :p

On the other hand, now I'm in Hampshire, I'm 'practically Scottish', as far as the natives are concerned! :eek:
 
E.B. White was a great writer. But his knowledge of history appears to have faulty. At the time Stark made his feelings known to Washington, Vermont was a howling wilderness known as the Hampshire Grants, and still inhabited mostly by Native Americans and a tiny handful of settlers. The not yet named state of Maine (still a section of Massachusetts at the time) was more settled then than the future Vermont.

Yankees = New Englanders (and New Yorkers, if they're nice:))

Wait a minute, mate. Maine was a well known and well used name long before the Salem Witch Trials in 1692. Though sadly part of Massachusetts, it was called the District of Maine on most maps. Little known fact -- after the Massachusetts Bay Colony claimed Maine as part of its territory in the late 1670s, it named Thomas Danforth, of Boston, as the first President of the District of Maine in 1680. By all accounts he did a good job, defending the settlers against the incursions of the Crown and treating the local Native Americans fairly. Unfortunately, his reputation has been forever sullied by his role as one of the judges at the Salem Witch Trials.

So while Obama is the everyone else's 44th president, he's the 45th president of Maine.
 
Wait a minute, mate. Maine was a well known and well used name long before the Salem Witch Trials in 1692. Though sadly part of Massachusetts, it was called the District of Maine on most maps. Little known fact -- after the Massachusetts Bay Colony claimed Maine as part of its territory in the late 1670s, it named Thomas Danforth, of Boston, as the first President of the District of Maine in 1680. By all accounts he did a good job, defending the settlers against the incursions of the Crown and treating the local Native Americans fairly. Unfortunately, his reputation has been forever sullied by his role as one of the judges at the Salem Witch Trials.

I said the STATE of Maine. Not district. So there. But thanks for the info, anyway. And do not imperil your immortal soul by defending that judicial murderer. Unless you have proof he was always voting in the minority?:confused:
 
3rd April

The Japanese open an all-out offensive against the Bataan line, which is by now under strength, undernourished, poorly clothed and equipped, and battle weary. After air and artillery bombardment, lasting from 1000 until 1500 hours, the Japanese move forward, making their main effort against Sector D, the west flank of the II Corps, where the 41st and 21st Divisions, Philippine Army, are thinly spread and dazed as result of the preliminary bombardment. The 41st, on the west, gives way and is rendered virtually ineffective as a fighting force, although a regiment on extreme west succeeds in withdrawing in an orderly fashion.

In the Mediterranean, final preparations for an amphibious operation aimed at Sicily are taking place. Reports from the Far East are encouraging, and the monsoon will soon put a stop to major operations in Burma and Malaya. Once it starts, Operation Husky will take place on the next suitable date.

4th April

In the II Corps area on Bataan, the Japanese attack is again preceded by a demoralizing artillery bombardment in conjunction with air attacks. The main line of resistance of Sector D collapses as the 41st Division Philippine Army, withdraws again and the 21st Division is forced from their main line of resistance to the reserve line in front of Mt Samat. After nightfall, the Japanese regroup for an assault on Mt Samat.

The first large raid using all the new equipment and the Coventry bomber is made by Bomber Command against Hanover. The main raid consists of 150 of the new high altitude Coventry, which follow in the Mosquito pathfinders. Their bombs, dropped from 35,000 feet, do severe damage to the supporting structures of buildings, as well as breaking gas lines and water mains. This damage makes it much more difficult to fight the damage and fires of the following waves of bombers - 400 Lancasters dropping the new 4,000 lb bombs and incendiaries, and a final wave of Halifax bombers carrying more incendiaries and light bombs to interfere with the fire-fighting efforts. The raid is finished off the next morning, when 150 Coventry bombers raid above the ceiling of the German air defences, losing only one plane over the target. They drop another 2,000 tons of bombs on targets that were missed in the night raid.

The raid is considered a success - a considerable part of Hanovers industry has been burned out or wrecked, and the sight of RAF bombers attacking apparently at will during the day had a serious effect on morale, many people fleeing the city. This raid will be a pattern for the RAF Spring offensive against the Ruhr and selected coastal cities.

In Malaya the Australians break the Japanese defensive line. With orders to hold, Yamashita is unable to stop them forming a 'shoulder' in the east, allowing them to commence rolling up the western units, which are almost unable to pull back as they are also facing a slow infantry advance from the west under Slim.

5th April

Fuhrer Directive 41 is issued and the Wehrmacht has its orders for 1942. Leningrad is to be captured and contact is to be made with the Finns east of Lake Ladoga, however this is a secondary objective. The main attack will be in the South, which involves 2nd Army and 4th Panzer Army breaking through to Voronezh on the Don River. 6th Army will break out south of Kharkov and combine with the 4th Panzer Army to surround the enemy. After that, the 4th Panzer Army and 6th Army will drive east under the command of Army Group B and surround Stalingrad from the North, while Army Group A's 17th Army and 1st Panzer Army will do so from the South. Once Stalingrad is taken, the 6th Army will hold the flank defence line while Army Group A drives South into the Caucasus to seize the oilfields. After this it will be possible to advance south and attack the British positions in the Middle East, taking the oil fields and the Suez canal and cutting the direct link between Britain and the Far East

After air and artillery preparation, the Japanese resume their offensive in the II Corps area on Bataan, taking Mt Samat. They concentrate on the 21st Division, leaving it virtually ineffective as a fighting force. The Corps prepares to counterattack tomorrow with all available forces.

A Japanese invasion force of 4,852 troops sails from Lingayen Gulf, Luzon, toward Cebu Island, in the Visayan Islands, east central Philippines.

6th April

The First Canadian Army formed in the U.K. under the command of Lieutenant General McNaughton.

7th April

Soviet Army troops force a very narrow corridor to Leningrad, opening a tenuous rail link to the city. Trains run into the city with desperately needed supplies and came out with civilians and the wounded, all under heavy artillery fire from the Germans.

8th April

Bomber Command mounts a raid on Essen. It is somewhat lighter than that against Hanover, but is again effective. The combination of the pathfinders and the Coventry bomber is causing the German defenders terrible problems, as the loss rate is very low and they leave the target open, burning and damaged for the follow-on bombers, which as a result are attaining a much better number of aircraft on target.

Harry Hopkins, Special Assistant to President Roosevelt, and General Marshall, US Army Chief of Staff, arrive in London for talks with British service and supply chiefs concerning the integration of US and British manpower and war production for action in Europe. General Marshall urges an offensive in the west to relieve pressure upon the USSR and promises a constant flow of US troops, including many air units, to the UK. The British treat these suggestions politely, but in fact they have no intention of attacking into France, instead their operations are aimed at Italy. Since the only US Army involvement is a brigade of the 1st Infantry Division (compared to some 14 Imperial and French Divisions), Marshall has no troops to back his arguments with.

On Bataan, II Corps disintegrates completely under sustained Japanese attacks from the ground and air. The Japanese soon discover gaps in the Alangan River line held by the U.S. 31st Infantry and 803d Engineer Battalion; the Philippine Scouts’ 57th Infantry, 26th Cavalry and 14th Engineer Battalion; and Philippine Constabulary troops, and stream southward at will. In a final effort to stem the enemy advance, the Provisional Coast Artillery Brigade, serving as infantrymen, forms a weak line just north of Cabcaben, but other units ordered to extend this line are unable to do so. Major General King, Commanding General Luzon Force, decides to surrender his troops and orders equipment destroyed during the night of the 8th/9th. Of the 78,000 men of the Luzon Force, about 2,000 succeed in escaping to Corregidor Island in Manila Bay

Submarine USS Seadragon delivers food to Corregidor, and evacuates the final increment of naval radio and communications intelligence people.

The air echelons of the 3d, 17th and 20th Pursuit Squadrons (Interceptor), 24th Pursuit Group (Interceptor), and the 21st and 34th Pursuit Squadrons (Interceptor), 35th Pursuit Group (Interceptor) based on Bataan begin operating from Del Monte Field on Mindanao with whatever aircraft are left.

Somerville informs Alexander and Blamey that he expects to be able to lift the required troops onto Bali in a few days. While he has the naval support he needs, a delay has been caused due to all light shipping and craft having been evacuated to the west out of the range of the failed Japanese landings.

At 1200 hours, the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise, with the heavy cruisers USS Salt Lake City and Northampton , four destroyers, and the oiler USS Sabine, sortie from Pearl Harbor to rendezvous with the aircraft carrier USS Hornet which is carrying B-25s to attack Japan.
 
Once again you timed it just right to head things off as the silliness starts to reach a peak. :)


In the Mediterranean, final preparations for an amphibious operation aimed at Sicily are taking place. Reports from the Far East are encouraging, and the monsoon will soon put a stop to major operations in Burma and Malaya. Once it starts, Operation Husky will take place on the next suitable date.

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In Malaya the Australians break the Japanese defensive line. With orders to hold, Yamashita is unable to stop them forming a 'shoulder' in the east, allowing them to commence rolling up the western units, which are almost unable to pull back as they are also facing a slow infantry advance from the west under Slim.
Will the Allies be able to move into Siam proper before the monsoon season stops play or will they be happy enough with securing Burma and Malaya and stopping at say Ratchaburi province and parts of the northern and western provinces and leaving the central, eastern, and north-eastern provinces (using the six-region system) until later? Should also be rather interesting to see what happens when Yamashita is relieved of duty in the very near future.

Edit: Having just updated my OpenOffice copy of the thread if you start each post off as a new page it now clocks in at a rather impressive four hundred and sixty-one pages.
 
So the Americans are on their last leg in the Phillipennes, while the Japanese are playing the same game in Malaya. Likewise, the Germans are really tearing into the Soviets, but meanwhile are getting torn at by the British.
 
So the Americans are on their last leg in the Phillipennes, while the Japanese are playing the same game in Malaya. Likewise, the Germans are really tearing into the Soviets, but meanwhile are getting torn at by the British.

Seems like it. The situation in the Philippines was too far gone for any of the recent events to save the US forces there. Like the Japanese the Germans haven't realized yet just how bad their position really is; the Japanese are about to get a very clear demonstration but the Germans can delude themselves a little longer.
 
Edit: Having just updated my OpenOffice copy of the thread if you start each post off as a new page it now clocks in at a rather impressive four hundred and sixty-one pages.


Would you be willing to upload somewhere so the rest of us can get a copy, I was about to start doing it myself for the same reason.
 
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