The way the CSA could have gone into the 21st century

Which caused fear in the states of the CSA and there was talk of breaking away from the CSA if the Central Goverment became to strong. The problem with a new CSA constitution is that the Civil War became about through State Power vs. Federal Power. The states that comprised the CSA were pro-State Power as opposed to Federal Power. Thus trying to take away State Power would probably result in a civil war in the CSA if handled incorrectly.

I am very well aware of that - in fact I should show you may shelves of books upon the Confederacy. However, in regards to abolishing slavery it has been mentioned that the individual states could abolish slavery and should enough states wish to call for a new constitutional convention and strike slavery from the new constitution they pretty much can.
 
I am very well aware of that - in fact I should show you may shelves of books upon the Confederacy. However, in regards to abolishing slavery it has been mentioned that the individual states could abolish slavery and should enough states wish to call for a new constitutional convention and strike slavery from the new constitution they pretty much can.

Ah I see. But I wonder would such a move prompt another civil war. I guess it demends when and what are the circumstances.
 

HueyLong

Banned
I am very well aware of that - in fact I should show you may shelves of books upon the Confederacy. However, in regards to abolishing slavery it has been mentioned that the individual states could abolish slavery and should enough states wish to call for a new constitutional convention and strike slavery from the new constitution they pretty much can.

The Confederate Constitution guarantees a right to hold slaves wherever you are in the Confederacy- states cannot ban slavery.

Its one of the ironies that their constitution removed more state's rights than anything else.
 
The Confederate Constitution guarantees a right to hold slaves wherever you are in the Confederacy- states cannot ban slavery.

There is a way to amend the constitution if they choose.

Article 5. - Amendment
1. Upon the demand of any three States, legally assembled in their several conventions, the Congress shall summon a convention of all the States, to take into consideration such amendments to the Constitution as the said States shall concur in suggesting at the time when the said demand is made; and should any of the proposed amendments to the Constitution be agreed on by the said convention ~ voting by States ~ and the same be ratified by the Legislatures of two-thirds of the several States, or by conventions in two-thirds thereof ~ as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the general convention ~ they shall thenceforward form a part of this Constitution. But no State shall, without its consent, be deprived of its equal representation in the Senate.

That is a demonstration that they truly expected the CS Constitution to be more a 'living and breathing document' - in modern parleance.
 

HueyLong

Banned
There is a way to amend the constitution if they choose.

Article 5. - Amendment
1. Upon the demand of any three States, legally assembled in their several conventions, the Congress shall summon a convention of all the States, to take into consideration such amendments to the Constitution as the said States shall concur in suggesting at the time when the said demand is made; and should any of the proposed amendments to the Constitution be agreed on by the said convention ~ voting by States ~ and the same be ratified by the Legislatures of two-thirds of the several States, or by conventions in two-thirds thereof ~ as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the general convention ~ they shall thenceforward form a part of this Constitution. But no State shall, without its consent, be deprived of its equal representation in the Senate.

That is a demonstration that they truly expected the CS Constitution to be more a 'living and breathing document' - in modern parleance.

But it is wishful thinking to say that two thirds would ever agree- without more than one third threatening secession.
 

bard32

Banned
I am very well aware of that - in fact I should show you may shelves of books upon the Confederacy. However, in regards to abolishing slavery it has been mentioned that the individual states could abolish slavery and should enough states wish to call for a new constitutional convention and strike slavery from the new constitution they pretty much can.

Have you read the Newt Gingrich William R. Forstchen novel Gettysburg?
In it, they have very plausible way the Confederacy could have won the battle.
Simply defeat Meade, take the railroad, Gettysburg was a major railhead in
the Civil War, and force the Army of the Potomac to forage for its food. Would
such a scenario have worked IOTL?
 
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