[Media] Three Years After The Grand Kekistani Hijacking | Face to Face - Al-Jazeera
Three Years After The Grand Kekistani Hijacking | Face to Face - Al-Jazeera
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In this episode of Face to Face, Melonie Wu receives an exclusive interview with former far-right internet personality and Grand Kekistani victim - Alex Krakowski. Shedding light on the incident, he reveals the stunts that provoked ISIS and the torturous turmoils he and his friends faced during their captivity in Libya.
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Introduction:
<Picturesque sceneries of a suburban neighbourhood in Queens, eventually cutting to a grim Victorian manor enamoured with colourful garden plots and lingering foliage.>
Melonie Wu: On July 14th, 2021, a bunch of far-right youths known as Groypers gathered in Franklin Street, Queens, to celebrate the 4th anniversary of the Great Triggering. Usually an outspoken and crowded event, they instead met with a tiny fraction compared to the infamous gathering in Buffalo, New York. Despite their disappointment, not all seem to be in vain as one of its organizers invited them to stay in his manor. Little do they know, however, that what follows next will set in the spotlight. Well, at least that's what they initially thought. [00:41]
<Melonie Wu is sitting on a curb, with her expressive fashion-line contrasting the grey and drabby sky. Behind her is the same Victorian abode, with a couple of boring pedestrians passing by.>
Melonie Wu: Before moving out from the states, this house used to belong to Alex Krakowski. From what his neighbours have told me, he was a rather timid personality despite his high living. People call him impartial, unconsciously apathetic to the people around him, but some claim he was rather friendly and even charitable despite his reclusive demeanour. However, this would change when he decides to open his own YouTube channel, paving him to become one of YouTube's most infamous personalities: AlexTheGreat. [01:15]
<Montages of videos from AlexTheGreat: Usually consisting of skillfully crafted motion graphics stylized in Greek motifs, discreet unedited rants, excessive use of Wojak and Pepe memes, and livestream footages of Fallout New Vegas.>
Melonie Wu: Notorious for his bombastic persona and far-right rhetoric, AlexTheGreat became YouTube's fastest-growing channel in recent history. His "ironic" rants and well-edited videos usually escape YouTube's ire and polarize the community: PewDiePie praised his sense of humour while John Green and Natalie Wynn condemn YouTube's inability to discourage his far-right ventings. But despite the controversies, his 2,500,000 subscriber base and high viewer retention made him a rather worrying personality in the internet scene. [01:52]
<Returning to a live screening of Melonie Wu, still monologing her introduction in a calm and collected tone.>
Melonie Wu: But despite the fame and fortune showering him, his success did not satisfy his ego. It wasn't until July 5th, 2023, when he and the friends he made during the anniversary took a flight to Sicily. From there, Alex Krakowski sailed off to what he considered to be his greatest act of "trolling" yet. The one that will, unfortunately, put him on the headlines - The Grand Kekistani Voyage. [02:29]
<A livestream footage of the Grand Kekistani departing from the ports of Catania, Sicily. Another clip shows Alex Krakowski posing with his phony crusader costume schemed in Green, Black, and White, hailing a crudely written banner ensigned "Deus Vult".>
Melonie Wu: Garnering over 200,000 viewers in the first 2 hours, the Grand Kekistani Voyage went live in their sailing across the Mediterranean Sea. During the debut, they harassed a large vessel manned by the SOS Méditerranée and their refugee passengers: the Groypers blasted inaudible screeching through their microphones and shooting flares directly to their ships. They also rammed three Libyan fishermen a couple of hours later, leading to a verbal confrontation between them and the locals. [03:03]
<Alex Krakowski at the bridge announcing another voyage in 2024, promising to organize a larger fleet. He thanked his supporters for enabling the event and waved his supposed goodbyes.>
Melonie Wu: And despite the overwhelming outcry against their stunts, the event was an astounding success. Their viewer count doubled after moving to BitChute-Live and amassed a donation of over $1,650,000. And to celebrate their success, Alex Krakowski announced another Grand Kekistani Voyage taking place in 2024, planning for a much grander attempt to harass fleeing refugees. [03:31]
<Screams for help blasted the livestreams. Alex Krakowski retreat from the camera to investigate the worrying situation.>
Melonie Wu: However, their livestream did not end with the farewells from his friends nor the cheers of celebration. [03:37]
<Two armed men in pitch-black garbs enter the scene, eventually noticing the camera with sheer curiosity. They turned of the session a few minutes later.>
Melonie Wu: Instead, they were greeted by a dangerous and rather angry guest. [03:42]
<Alex Krakowski and Melonie Wu meeting face-to-face at the front door of his apartment, eventually shaking hands while he greeted her to come inside.>
Melonie Wu: After the incident, he returned to mundane life but left the state of New York to avoid the ire of his neighbours. But after pulling some strings from behind the scenes, we manage to set an interview with the man himself. [03:56]
<The interview finally takes place in his living room, with all his apartment windows shut. Alex Krakowski's face is blurred, and his voice modulated into a deep tone.>
Melonie Wu: By his request, we agreed to conceal his voice and face. [04:01]
Interview:
Melonie Wu: Before I read out my list here because there's a lot, I want to ask you something: Why the crusader costume? [04:10]
Alex Krakowski: I thought wearing it might be fun back then, especially when you're doing it in front of them. The whole thing started during the 2nd Great Triggering in Buffalo, where we held our rally back in 2019. There were a lot of people styling themselves in these cool getups at the Lafayette square: There's one guy who wore like this Spartan-looking armour; he's pretty jacked, there's an entire group dressed in green minutemen uniforms, and also the guy who cosplayed as Patrick Bateman from American Psycho; he definitely looks the part. Anyway, I thought it would be cool to bring it back again. And also the fact that I might rile up some people, there's that. [04:59]
Melonie Wu: Where did you buy the costume from, exactly? [05:03]
Alex Krakowski: I actually commissioned it from one of my fans. For the most part, she's great at getting the details right. I haven't heard much from her since then, however. [05:15]
Melonie Wu: Thank you for the answer, Alex. [05:19]
Alex Krakowski: You're welcome. [05:20]
Melonie Wu: Anyway, Alex, When you came up with the voyage, what was your first thought on the whole event? Did you have this meticulously planned, or did it just pop out from your head like a lightbulb? [05:33]
Alex Krakowski: The latter, probably. I came up with the whole thing back in Queens when I let them stay in my home for a couple of days. All of my friends were sleeping while I was watching Pirates of the Caribbean up in my room. On Stranger Tides freaking sucks, but I always love the part where they show the Spanish Conquistadors; I thought they looked neat. Since then, the idea just popped, you know? [06:02]
Melonie Wu: Other than Pirates of the Caribbean, is there anything else that inspired you? [06:08]
Alex Krakowski: Lauren Southern. She did the whole thing first, but I thought to myself that I could do better. Jean Raspail's book about migrants inspired me as well: His writing was really compelling, and I thought the premise was really scary back then. [06:27]
Melonie Wu: And you've put a lot of effort into the whole organizing and financing, I assume? [06:32]
Alex Krakowski: Pretty much, I financed the entire event to a dime. The planning and PR are mostly on me, but I left the logistic and technical side of things to my friends: LolBert and Schmop. I couldn't have done it without them, to be honest. [06:48]
Melonie Wu: And all of the crew are your YouTube friends? [06:51]
Alex Krakowski: No, obviously. None of us knows jack about navigation, so it's nice that we can hire an experienced crew. Plus, we paid a hired gun just in case things goes downhill. [07:02]
Melonie Wu: Why would you hire a mercenary? [07:04]
Alex Krakowski: For protection. [07:06]
Melonie Wu: Isn't that excessive considering the people you're targeting? [07:11]
Alex Krakowski: Some of my friends were scared. They seemed reluctant after the flight, even when I told them that we're not going far from the coast. They won't budge, so I wasted my extra cash on a dude with an impressive gun. Plus, we make sure that none of them jumps into our ships. [07:27]
Melonie Wu: And how did that work out in the end? [07:29]
Alex Krakowski: Not well. [07:31]
<Interview cuts to footages of a derelict family yacht - the Picchiotti, aimlessly sailing across the Aegean Sea. Another scene shows massive protests through Italy condemning the government.>
Melonie Wu: To understand their situation, we have to grasp the origin and severity of the crisis. The first case related to the corsairs emerged in 2021 when a family yacht - the Pichiotti, disappeared 2 hours after it departed from Naples. Once thought to be a tragic freak accident by the Italian Ministry of Interior, its reappearance at the Aegean Sea sparked outrage in Italy after the revelation of its actual demise. [07:54]
<Montages related to the Neo-Barbary Crisis: CCTV and handheld footages showcase the corsairs committing kidnappings and hijackings.>
Melonie Wu: Since then, many follow suit as a series of similar cases occurred throughout the Mediterranean. Some such as the hijacking of F.S Treville and the MSC Walker were complex enough to provoke the EU into expanding its mission within Operation Ocean Shield. The fate of the passengers varies: while cases of kidnappings and killings were notorious, most are left unscathed while the corsairs depart with their loot. Most cases of the crisis are related to economic strife, evidenced by the many reports of illegal fishing and the state of its local fisheries. As for how they become victims themselves, this is what Krakowski has to say. [08:32]
<Melonie Wu, sitting casually on a short stool with her notes, asked Krakowski a simple yet provocative question.>
Alex Krakowski: How should I know?! The only thing I remember is that they came out of nowhere. [08:36]
Melonie Wu: So your friends just scream out their lungs for no reason? At least some of them know how it went down. [08:42]
Alex Krakowski: They barely talked to me ever since then. Besides, they've been under constant watch since we went back home. The only person they let go of is Schmop, our tech guy. [08:51]
Melonie Wu: Can you call him? [08:53]
Alex Krakowski: Why?! [08:54]
Melonie Wu: Just for a few minutes. It won't be that long. [08:58]
<Alex Krakowski calls his friend, Schmop, later passing the phone to Melonie Wu when he answered.>
Schmop: Hello? [08:59]
Melonie Wu: Hi, Schmop. I'm from Al-Jazeera and-- [09:02]
Schmop: Why are you calling me? [09:04]
Melonie Wu: I'm interviewing your friend here about the incident, so I was wondering whether you have the time to answer some questions? [09:11]
Schmop: Sure. [09:12]
Melonie Wu: How did you get kidnapped by Daesh in the first place? [09:15]
Schmop: Who? [09:16]
Melonie Wu: Sorry, I mean ISIS. [09:18]
Schmop: I think it's after we barged against the last migrants. Like a couple of minutes after that, we're planning to fly back home. But something at the horizon caught our eye while Alex was livestreaming on the bridge. [09:24]
Melonie Wu: Continue. [09:25]
Schmop: We noticed a ship speeding towards the north, but we thought it wasn't worth the trouble, so we let them slide. But things get tense when they're actually heading towards us. [09:34]
Melonie Wu: What happened next? [09:37]
Schmop: At first, we thought they were refugees begging to let them hop inside our boat. I took out my flare gun telling them to back off, but they won't budge. But when LolBert screamed from the back, I knew something was really off with these people. [09:51]
Melonie Wu: Then they came from behind, I assume? [09:54]
Schmop: Pretty much. They climbed out with their rifles wet. The people in the boat took their guns out as well after the scream and told us to stand down. [10:03]
Melonie Wu: So what happened to the hired gun? [10:06]
Schmop: He almost killed us when he was pointing his gun at them. If it wasn't for Alex, MSNBC would've gushed about how our boat is soaked in crimson red. He and the boat crew went scot-free while they were hauled to Libya. [10:19]
Melonie Wu: One more-- [10:21]
<The conversation came to an abrupt halt when Schmop decided to turn off his phone. Cutting back to Melonie Wu passing the last question to Alex Krakowski.>
Melonie Wu: When you sailed off from Sicily, did you realize that you're heading towards Libya? [10:25]
Alex Krakowski: No. I'm pretty sure we've been sticking around the EEZs since we sailed off. I don't remember the crew screwing up their navigation. [10:33]
Melonie Wu: But it doesn't make sense how they've kidnapped you that fast. There's this website called MarineTracker.com, and since the yacht you've rented is registered, it says you were 120 miles away from Sirte; deep within the gulf, mind you. [10:47]
Alex Krakowski: So you're basing this on a shoddy website? [10:50]
Melonie Wu: Assuming that you didn't intend to sail there, don't you think it's dangerous to stick around the seas for 8 hours? [10:56]
Alex Krakowski: Maybe. I don't know. All I can say is that there's nothing wrong with the navigation; we followed it to a tee. Plus, that means I'll be endangering my friends, I can never do that. [11:08]
Melonie Wu: So that's why you sailed off in the first place? [11:11]
Alex Krakowski: … [11:13]
<Cutting to another segment of the interview, Melonie Wu asked Alex Krakowski about his jihadist captors.>
Melonie Wu: Do you remember the people who kidnapped you? [11:16]
Alex Krakowski: I only know that there's 8 of them: Most of them are Arabs, but I remember ginger and a black guy being there; I think the former is a Chechen while the latter's Somali, few of them are Chinese-looking; probably Uyghurs but I don't know. [11:28]
Melonie Wu: That's rather explicit of you. [11:30]
Alex Krakowski: I thought the details might help. Besides, they speak English, albeit broken, which makes them scarier because that means they probably watched our livestream. Regardless, they're pretty much generic grunts, but one of them strikes me the most. [11:45]
Melonie Wu: And who's that? [11:47]
Alex Krakowski: The guy's short, but really stocky compared to his lackeys. I can't tell his race since he pretty much covered every part of his skin. The thing is, he's the only one who speaks fluent English. [11:58]
Melonie Wu: Are you saying he's from the U.S.? [12:01]
Alex Krakowski: I'm saying he's probably from the Midwest. The man has the most generic tone in human history, and their accent is already such a disastrous bore. [12:11]
Melonie Wu: Do you get to know more about him? [12:14]
Alex Krakowski: No. His goons sailed us off to Libya after our brief moment; put a sack on our heads to cover their tracks. He keeps barking orders at them, so I assume he's in charge of the whole thing. [12:25]
Melonie Wu: When they hauled you over to Libya, did you ever get a glimpse of what life's like under their rule? [12:30]
Alex Krakowski: I have a sack on my head during the whole trip, how can I hear anything? [12:34]
Melonie Wu: Do you at least know where they locked-- [12:37]
Alex Krakowski: In the middle of the desert, if that's what you're wondering. Right after they took it off, all I could see was endless miles of sand. Not even the scenic-looking ones, just a flat desert. [12:51]
Melonie Wu: What happened next? [12:53]
Alex Krakowski: They told us to sit down for a group shot: We're rowed at the front while they stand behind us posing with their guns. They told me to hold their banner in front of the camera since I'm their "guest of honour". At that point, I know it's not going to end well for me. [13:10]
Melonie Wu: How so? [13:12]
Alex Krakowski: They make sure I don't take my crusader outfit off, especially the helmet. When you're wearing layers of fabric and steel, and you're staying too long in the desert, you basically turn into a living cooking pot. [13:26]
Melonie Wu: What happened if you did? [13:28]
Alex Krakowski: They buried my head into the sand if I did, told me to count to 10,000. [13:33]
Melonie Wu: And what happened to your friends? [13:35]
Alex Krakowski: They didn't face anything. In fact, they're pretty much well-fed and rested by the time they let us off. It's weird to find them talking about trauma, to be honest. [13:47]
Melonie Wu: Why? [13:58]
Alex Krakowski: Because I was the one who bears the entire brunt, not them. I did everything to keep them safe while they threw me off to the wolves. [14:09]
Melonie Wu: How so? [14:11]
<Alex Krakowski pulls up his sleeves and stretches his arm as he presents it to her: Markings of burn spots and dark traumas scattered throughout his elbow and wrist.>
Alex Krakowski: There's more in the back if you're wondering. [14:14]
Melonie Wu: What did they-- [14:15]
Alex Krakowski: A cattle prod. [14:16]
<Recordings of Alex Krakowski and his friends being stranded in the middle of the ocean, later rescued and escorted by Italian coast guards to Sicily.>
Melonie Wu: Despite announcing to rescue the Groypers, the Palermo U.S Consulate was caught by surprise when they received news from Italian authorities. On July 17th, ISIS left Alex Krakowski and his friends stranded in the open seas. Interestingly, they made no attempts to ransom them, merely laying the coordinates to the local coast guards via voicemail. [14:37]
<Compilation of sketches depicting Alex Krakowski's trial, which takes place in Manhattan, New York.>
Melonie Wu: After returning to the U.S and recovering from his traumas, Alex Krakowski was put on trial at the local supreme court. Guilty of felony and first-degree endangerment, he was sentenced to 2 years of incarceration. [14:50]
<Slideshows of social media posts appears, showcasing the initial reactions to the kidnappings and aftermath.>
Melonie Wu: Since the incident, the internet has been polarized on whether Alex Krakowski and the Groypers are in the right or wrong. People like MalContent and Natalie Wynn condemn him for endangering his friends, while others like Jon Jafari and WickedPixie defend his actions and accuse the former of victim-blaming. [15:07]
<Clips of YouTubers livestreaming their session to fundraise the ransom, eventually cutting off to a clip of far-right groups protesting in front of the Libyan embassy in Washington D.C.>
Melonie Wu: Regardless, it attracted high-profile YouTubers such as PewDiePie to organize fundraising events to pay off the supposed ransom, which he later donated to charity after they were released. Others take to the streets as they protest in front of the Libyan embassy, raising signs adorned with internet and far-right memes in solidarity with the Grand Kekistani. [15:28]
<An inaudible footage of an ISIS spokesperson explain their rationale over kidnapping the Grand Kekistani crew.>
Melonie Wu: However, the people in Sirte view the incident differently. With the spokesperson from ISIS explaining the rationale over the kidnappings. [15:35]
<Inaudible footage becomes fluent as the video skips to his explanations over the incident.>
ISIS Spokesperson: The Americans, or Groypers as some of these people call them, harassed hard-working people trying to support their families. We didn't arrest them unprovoked but merely answering the calls made by one of the citizens. The video they recorded themselves shows they trespassing through our seas uninvited and proceeded to ram three ships, injuring two of our people. Thus, we punished them according to our jurisdiction. [15:58]
<Cutting back to the interview. Alex Krakowksi looks irritated while Melonie Wu scratches her head for questions.>
Melonie Wu: How do you feel about ISIS's statement on the Grand Kekistani Voyage? [16:01]
Alex Krakowski: I didn't hurt anyone. [16:03]
Melonie Wu: I mean, you did ram those ships during the livestream. [16:06]
Alex Krakowski: So you're trusting what the terrorists say, but not me? Is that what you're saying? [16:11]
Melonie Wu: Well-- [16:12]
Alex Krakowski: You know, I know how this is going to end. Can we just jump to your last question, please? [16:17]
Melonie Wu: Okay, here's the last one. Alex, you mentioned Jean Raspail as your main inspiration for the Grand Kekistani Voyage. I'm familiar with the plot of his book, so I don't need to extrapolate it for you. However, consider the message at hand, I have one thing to ask: What are you trying to achieve, actually? [16:36]
Alex Krakowski: Does it matter? [16:38]
Melonie Wu: I mean, you've put so much effort into organizing it. Besides, you did state in trying to organize another event before you the kidnapping.[16:47]
Alex Krakowski: It was a long time ago. If you really want an answer, let's just say I used to believe in some dumb crap back then. [16:47]
Melonie Wu: Do you still believe it now? [16:56]
Alex Krakowski: No. Thinking about it leaves me with bad memories, so I just avoid politics entirely. It doesn't mean I changed into a freaking rosie, though. I just that the whole charade is not worth the trouble anymore. [17:11]
Melonie Wu: Do you ever think back about the voyage? [17:13]
Alex Krakowski: It has its moments, to be honest. It's probably the height of my life if it wasn't for the incident. But now, I rather think less of it. [17:27]
Melonie Wu: Will you do it again? [17:30]
Alex Krakowski: Considering what I've lost, no. [17:33]
Melonie Wu: Well, I think that's it. Thank you for having us here, Alex. [17:38]
Alex Krakowski: Yeah, sure. [17:40]
<Alex Krakowski and Melonie Wu shake hands as she and her crew begin to leave his apartment. Outside, he's peering at them from his door before slowly closing it shut.>
Melonie Wu: It's hard to comprehend the experience he faced during his captivity, especially when he still bears the literal scars reminding him as such. Like many victims of the Neo-Barbary Crisis, Alex Krakowski was traumatized by the events that ensued. To this day, he still struggles to open himself due to the psychological consequences of the kidnapping. Despite being apologetic over his past, he seems to distance himself from his old politics and avoid it entirely. Now working as a marketing consultant, Alex returned to his life as a timid but disgruntled everyman far away from New York. [18:21]
<Slideshows of Groypers who joined the Grand Kekistani were shown, accompanied by simple motion graphics.>
Melonie Wu: However, he's not the only one to suffer the consequences of the incident. In fear of facing potential retribution, all of the participants of the Grand Kekistani Voyage are under the strict protection of the authorities; many are still confined in undisclosed safe houses. [18:41]
<Cutting back to picturesque sceneries of Alex Krakowski's old neighbourhood in Franklin Street, Queens.>
Melonie Wu: So that concludes our interview with Alex Krakowski. We didn't get much in terms of the details, but interviewing him was a relative eye-opener. We tried to contact the rest of his friends, but it was futile considering their situation. To this day, the corsairs still haunt European coasts, despite the efforts made by the EU. It will be a matter of time when the madness ends, but the scar will bear for decades to come. [19:01]
<Credits slide begins to roll as she's nearing the end of her monologue>
Melonie Wu: I think that's all we have for the time being. So what do you think: Is he an unfortunate victim of a crisis we have yet to resolve or is he another fascist nut who opportunistically caused his own downfall. Let me know in the comments below, and give a thumbs up if you want the series to continue. Until then, this is Melonie Wu from Al-Jazeera signing off. [20:13]
<Melonie Wu walks off from the scene as it fades to pitch black, ending the video.>
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