BlairWitch749
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The Germans get gang tackled by the czechs, poles and french and are crushed in 12 weeks
I'm not seeing any riots in Austria-Hungary until after the collapse, only low morale, desertions, and general apathy and defeatism.
If they are too common to mention, we don't know what any of them are. If you're going to make so much of what was meant to be a joke, you might as well cite some actual cases.
Wrong war, jimmie:
'the war' to be understood as 'the war nearer the period being discussed'.
Although that said, the Easter Rising was bitterly unpopular with the Irish people at the time. (And for the sake of completeness, yes, the Irish police were armed, dressed in military-style uniforms, and stationed outside their counties of origin, in these ways being very differnet from their British equivelants).
The Germans get gang tackled by the czechs, poles and french and are crushed in 12 weeks
Poles?
As for the French, if they move as energetically in 1938 as they were to do in 1939, expect both Armies to die of old age.
I think you are right here.
I think you are wrong here. The French did not launch a massive offensive in 1939 because they needed at least 15 days, or better a month, for that, and in 15 days the Polish situation was desperate. On the contrary, the assumption here seems to be that the Czechoslovakians resist at least a month or two.
Secondly, while the French army of 1938 was less powerful than the French army of 1939, the German army of 1938 was much less powerful than the German army of 1939. It's a hell greater difference.
The disparity had been greater still in 1935, at the time of the Stresa Front. Yet even then, when French and Italian army chiefs met to discuss co-operation, they talked about the defence of Alsace and South Tyrol, rather than about offensive action.
Afaics, the French Army just wasn't thinking offensively in the 1930s - an overreaction from their opposite approach in 1914 - and it's not at all obvious that relative strengths had much to do with it. There's little reason to think that anything different can be expected in 1938.
And, I suppose, you see no link between low morale - collapse - rioting?
You did notice that the red week was one of said cases?
The bloody sunday of 1904 in Czarist Russia is a good example. A mass of unarmed demonstrators gets mowed down by the army; this puts an end to peaceful, reformist movements and paves the way to the revolution of 1905.
The Malabar uprising of 1921 was stoked by an incident in which the police fired on a crowd.
In 1918, the rice riots in Japan were made worse by the police practices, and this ended with the government having to resign.
I could go on and on. While I selected examples from the early 1900s, we should know plenty of modern examples, in countries as diverse as the USA, South Africa, Israel, Pakistan and so on and so forth. There is an initial accident or peaceful demonstration, the police reacts with excessive violence, and this brings about worse things. If you don't know about these mechanics, I'm sorry for you.
I'm not "jimmie". Try to avoid these unpleasantries, if you can.
You understood it that way. Personally, I think that an uprising during a war such as the Easter one is a relevant example.
Let me get this straight: the British needed to use army units, including field artillery, to quell that uprising. It was most definitely not "handled by the constabulary". Don't try to argue in this direction because it would be a falsehood.
I was referring to examples from during the war and wars generally; examples from, you know, Slovakia would also have been nice.
If Hitler had not been persuaded to solve the Sudeten Crisis in the Conference of Munich he would have been assassinated on September, 28 by a commando led by Captain Heinz and Lieutenant Commander Liedig. In OTL the September Conspiracy failed because they (Beck, Brauchitsch, Dohnanyi, Gisevius, Goerdeler, Halder, Kordt, Oster, Witzleben and others) dismissed their plan after learning that he had agreed to hold a conference to solve the Sudeten Crisis.
So, if Hitler did not have agreed to solve this crisis peacefully he would have been "killed while resisting arrest".