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felixs

Anagnod said:
TY, I shall work on this
Do you have any data on Tunez, I estimated based on the towns/cities I KNEW were taken, anything else would be appreciated
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Spain and Portugal 1591
 

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Anagnod

kark said:
@Anagnod
It's a good map, but I can see several errors (if this is OTL).

·For the Crown of Castille, the internal subdivision was this: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Provinces_Crown_of_Castile_1590.svg (although this map has the error of Olivenza y Taliga on the Portugal border)

·Portugal should include the cities of Olivenza and Taliga (currently on Spain)

·The internal divisions of Catalonia, Aragon and Valencia are simply just wrong, also Catalonia includes the Fenolleda, which was part of France: https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenolleda

·Valencia is missing the Racó d'Ademús, an exclave (https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rac%C3%B3_d%27Adem%C3%BAs), and the city of Caudete, another exclave (https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabdet), but includes Villena and Sax, which where not part of the Kingdom (except between 1304-1369) (https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villena, https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saix) and the Plana de Utiel comarca, which was part of Castille except for the cities of Sinarcas and Chera (https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plana_d'Utiel) and the small village of Casas del Río (small "triangle" south of Requena).

The Spanish territory held in Oran is exagerated, and the spanish Tunez is just wrong.

Also, the territories of the Hispanic Crown should be marked with different colours or with darker borders, because the relations between the Crown of Castile and the different territories of the Crown of Aragon, and between the territories of the Crown of Aragon among themselves, were to have the same king, but there was no administrative relationship between them.
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kark said:
@Anagnod
Wikipedia has a good list of the cities and the dates on which they were controlled (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperio_español#África). In addition, control of cities in the Tunis area was superficial and generally confined to the city limits. The population of the cities were natives of the area.
By 1560 the only controlled territories were: the island of Djerba (which was lost that same year), Bizerte and Tunis (including La Goulette).
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felixs said:
Spain and Portugal 1591
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Thank you for the input guys, how does this look?
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kark

It seems pretty good to me, I see that you missed some enclaves, such as the Kingdom of Granada in the Kingdom of Jaén, the Catalonia-Fenolleda border also seems a bit strange to me, and the same with the Villena border (it seems you have put too much territory in Murcia), and you have put the entire Plana de Utiel in Castilla, that was not the case.
Also, I can't identify it well, in Oran have you included Mazalquivir? (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mers_el-Kébir), it was also in the hands of the crown.

In Portugal, Olivenza seems a bit small, maybe you have missed Taliga (part of Olivenza in that year).

Also, in France, you have missed Escos as part of Navarre (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Tierras_de_Ultrapuertos_(Baja_Navarra)._Siglos_XII-XVI.png) (enclave in the north), and you have put Gestas in Bearn and Esquiule in Zuberoa, while it was the opposite (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Zuberoa_(Municipios-Udalerriak).png).
 
Anagnod

Anagnod

kark said:
It seems pretty good to me, I see that you missed some enclaves, such as the Kingdom of Granada in the Kingdom of Jaén, the Catalonia-Fenolleda border also seems a bit strange to me, and the same with the Villena border (it seems you have put too much territory in Murcia), and you have put the entire Plana de Utiel in Castilla, that was not the case.
Also, I can't identify it well, in Oran have you included Mazalquivir? (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mers_el-Kébir), it was also in the hands of the crown.

In Portugal, Olivenza seems a bit small, maybe you have missed Taliga (part of Olivenza in that year).

Also, in France, you have missed Escos as part of Navarre (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Tierras_de_Ultrapuertos_(Baja_Navarra)._Siglos_XII-XVI.png) (enclave in the north), and you have put Gestas in Bearn and Esquiule in Zuberoa, while it was the opposite (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Zuberoa_(Municipios-Udalerriak).png).
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TY for your help with Spain;

Jaen-Granada - Fixed
Catalonia-Fenolleda - per the VT sub-divisions
Villena - ditto
Plana de Utiel - Surely this was Castilian until 1851?
Malzalquivir - yes it is included
Taliga - Fixed
Escos - Fixed
Gestas - Fixed
Esquiule - Can't find any data/ map on this, not even in your link

Progress on the 1560 map
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Crazy Boris

Crazy Boris

Anagnod said:
TY for your help with Spain;

Jaen-Granada - Fixed
Catalonia-Fenolleda - per the VT sub-divisions
Villena - ditto
Plana de Utiel - Surely this was Castilian until 1851?
Malzalquivir - yes it is included
Taliga - Fixed
Escos - Fixed
Gestas - Fixed
Esquiule - Can't find any data/ map on this, not even in your link

Progress on the 1560 map
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a couple more Italian states are missing: County of Vernio, Republic of Cospaia, Republic of Senarica, Republic of Noli, Duchy of Sora, and Duchy of Castro

also, shouldn't Abkhazia and Svaneti be seperate from Mingrelia?
 
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felixs

Anagnod said:
TY for your help with Spain;

Jaen-Granada - Fixed
Catalonia-Fenolleda - per the VT sub-divisions
Villena - ditto
Plana de Utiel - Surely this was Castilian until 1851?
Malzalquivir - yes it is included
Taliga - Fixed
Escos - Fixed
Gestas - Fixed
Esquiule - Can't find any data/ map on this, not even in your link

Progress on the 1560 map
oyobHR8.png
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Prussia doesn't look too right to me but i don't know much about it, also if you are using modern administrative lines to draw ottoman provinces in anatolia they wont work because they are mostly drawn in the 20th century
 
Drex

Drex

Anagnod said:
Plana de Utiel - Surely this was Castilian until 1851?
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It was only given to Valencia in that year for trade reasons, as it is separated from Castille by the Gorges of the Magro while the physical separation to Valencia was only a mountain pass. Also, the municipality of Chera (that salient to the northeast) has always been part of Valencia.
 

felixs

Anagnod said:
TY for your help with Spain;

Jaen-Granada - Fixed
Catalonia-Fenolleda - per the VT sub-divisions
Villena - ditto
Plana de Utiel - Surely this was Castilian until 1851?
Malzalquivir - yes it is included
Taliga - Fixed
Escos - Fixed
Gestas - Fixed
Esquiule - Can't find any data/ map on this, not even in your link

Progress on the 1560 map
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Year 1600 for Ottoman Anatolia, if you would like i can try to send you a bigger version too but can't upload it larger here
 

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Crazy Boris said:
a couple more Italian states are missing: County of Vernio, Republic of Cospaia, Republic of Senarica, Republic of Noli, Duchy of Sora, and Duchy of Castro

also, shouldn't Abkhazia and Svaneti be seperate from Mingrelia?
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Fixed TY, also added Poglizza and re-did the Lucca-Genoa area
felixs said:
Prussia doesn't look too right to me but i don't know much about it, also if you are using modern administrative lines to draw ottoman provinces in anatolia they wont work because they are mostly drawn in the 20th century
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Duchy of Prussia or are you talking Brandenburg?
Drex said:
Chera
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TY
 
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