The Victory of Carthage
The Premise: In marching across the Alps, Hannibal did NOT lose most of his siege weapons and elephants and, after some even more
resounding victories against the Romans than he really had, attacked Rome. Italy was now divided between Carthaginian Italy and
Roman Italy. Now two powers, Carthage and the Seleucid Empire, [formed by General Seleceus, one of Alexander's most important
generals] would go on to become the new world powers.
All years shall now be counted from 814 BCE, the year of the founding of Carthage. This is year 1. All years shall now be in the by
the Carthaginian calendar created by Hannibal IIII. These are Carthaginian standard years, CSY.
Beginning in 597 CSY, The Carthaginian annexation of Italy began. As Italy broke apart, her old bonds with various allies etc. did so as well.
Carthage and her Celtic allies were now in control of Italy and were moving both North and East.
The Ptolemaic empire chose to ally itself to the Carthaginians, but the prosperous Seleucid Empire of the heartland of the old Persian empire did not.
Here is a rough timeline of events between 596 CSY [218 BCE] is listed here.
May 596 CSY: Hannibal chooses to march across the Alps, but brings sufficient provisions and, moreover,
makes sure that his elephants are kept warm enough to survive the trek. However, not all [but more than three] of his elephants survive
and some of his siege equipment is lost.
December 596 CSY: Resounding victory for Hannibal at the battle of Trebia. NO Roman legions are successful, and the empire
has been taken completely by surprise by Hannibal's moves into Italy. This needs some explaining. At the Battle of Trebia, some legions
actually beat the Carthaginians and managed to retreat. Although this is recorded as an OVERALL victory for Carthage, Hannibal lost some
vital troops here, which in this case he didn't.
June 21, 597 CSY: The battle of Lake Trasimene is another fantastic victory for Hannibal.
November 3, 597 CSY: Hannibal decides to march directly on Rome. Rather than go to Cannae, and/or wait for reinforcements, the Carthaginian army
follows the Tiber and attacks Rome directly. Italy soon falls into civil disarray as the Carthaginian army takes Rome. Hannibal, with his military genius, just
barely manages to pull it off.
599 CSY: The annexation of northern Italy is completed, and Hannibal, now popular beyond comparison within the Carthaginian empire, sets his sights on
Greek politics.
January 16, 600 CSY: Events take a violent turn as Carthage declares war on Macedon. Although the two had originally been considering peace treaties,
peace conferences soon turned to conferences of war when both sides tried to take parts of Greece. One boiling point is Epirus, and the moment that
Macedonian troops march into Epirus, the Carthaginians declare war and the First Macedonian war begins.
March 19, 600 CSY: The people of Epirus divide, one side, the Molossians, who side with Macedon. On the other side are the Chaonians and Thesprotians, who
side with Carthage. However, Carthage is not primarily a military power and overreaches herself. It is 11 years before anything can be done about Greece. On the other
hand, Hannibal is greedy for territory and will do anything to get it.
February 28, 611 CSY: The Carthaginian and Macedonian navies meet at the battle of the Gulf of Oricos. The Macedonian fleet, sailing past, is completely unaware
of the Carthaginian fleet which has chosen to hide in the natural harbour. Taking the Macedonians COMPLETELY by surprise, the Carthaginians win a great victory.
[Battle of Oricos]
August 6, 611 CSY: The Carthaginian invading army in Epirus quickly drives out the Macedonians, the only discrepancy is that it doesn't leave. Leading the army?
Hasdrubal, Hannibal's brother. Hannibal, meanwhile, is managing affairs in Italy.
The Rise of the Carthaginian Empire has begun.
p.s. The timeline may be bad, in fact it may have been done before, it's not an original idea, I'm sure, but it's still fun to do and hopefully better than my first thread.
The map is bad. Deal with it.
The Premise: In marching across the Alps, Hannibal did NOT lose most of his siege weapons and elephants and, after some even more
resounding victories against the Romans than he really had, attacked Rome. Italy was now divided between Carthaginian Italy and
Roman Italy. Now two powers, Carthage and the Seleucid Empire, [formed by General Seleceus, one of Alexander's most important
generals] would go on to become the new world powers.
All years shall now be counted from 814 BCE, the year of the founding of Carthage. This is year 1. All years shall now be in the by
the Carthaginian calendar created by Hannibal IIII. These are Carthaginian standard years, CSY.
Beginning in 597 CSY, The Carthaginian annexation of Italy began. As Italy broke apart, her old bonds with various allies etc. did so as well.
Carthage and her Celtic allies were now in control of Italy and were moving both North and East.
The Ptolemaic empire chose to ally itself to the Carthaginians, but the prosperous Seleucid Empire of the heartland of the old Persian empire did not.
Here is a rough timeline of events between 596 CSY [218 BCE] is listed here.
May 596 CSY: Hannibal chooses to march across the Alps, but brings sufficient provisions and, moreover,
makes sure that his elephants are kept warm enough to survive the trek. However, not all [but more than three] of his elephants survive
and some of his siege equipment is lost.
December 596 CSY: Resounding victory for Hannibal at the battle of Trebia. NO Roman legions are successful, and the empire
has been taken completely by surprise by Hannibal's moves into Italy. This needs some explaining. At the Battle of Trebia, some legions
actually beat the Carthaginians and managed to retreat. Although this is recorded as an OVERALL victory for Carthage, Hannibal lost some
vital troops here, which in this case he didn't.
June 21, 597 CSY: The battle of Lake Trasimene is another fantastic victory for Hannibal.
November 3, 597 CSY: Hannibal decides to march directly on Rome. Rather than go to Cannae, and/or wait for reinforcements, the Carthaginian army
follows the Tiber and attacks Rome directly. Italy soon falls into civil disarray as the Carthaginian army takes Rome. Hannibal, with his military genius, just
barely manages to pull it off.
599 CSY: The annexation of northern Italy is completed, and Hannibal, now popular beyond comparison within the Carthaginian empire, sets his sights on
Greek politics.
January 16, 600 CSY: Events take a violent turn as Carthage declares war on Macedon. Although the two had originally been considering peace treaties,
peace conferences soon turned to conferences of war when both sides tried to take parts of Greece. One boiling point is Epirus, and the moment that
Macedonian troops march into Epirus, the Carthaginians declare war and the First Macedonian war begins.
March 19, 600 CSY: The people of Epirus divide, one side, the Molossians, who side with Macedon. On the other side are the Chaonians and Thesprotians, who
side with Carthage. However, Carthage is not primarily a military power and overreaches herself. It is 11 years before anything can be done about Greece. On the other
hand, Hannibal is greedy for territory and will do anything to get it.
February 28, 611 CSY: The Carthaginian and Macedonian navies meet at the battle of the Gulf of Oricos. The Macedonian fleet, sailing past, is completely unaware
of the Carthaginian fleet which has chosen to hide in the natural harbour. Taking the Macedonians COMPLETELY by surprise, the Carthaginians win a great victory.
[Battle of Oricos]
August 6, 611 CSY: The Carthaginian invading army in Epirus quickly drives out the Macedonians, the only discrepancy is that it doesn't leave. Leading the army?
Hasdrubal, Hannibal's brother. Hannibal, meanwhile, is managing affairs in Italy.
The Rise of the Carthaginian Empire has begun.
p.s. The timeline may be bad, in fact it may have been done before, it's not an original idea, I'm sure, but it's still fun to do and hopefully better than my first thread.
The map is bad. Deal with it.
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