The Vatican in a Communist Italy

If the communists are stalinists , then a dieu pope , One of the things i really despise about Communists is their hatred for religion , you could build a socialist paradise with a religious people , not with the unnecessary bullying and killing of believers just because Marx and Engels were atheists , i think this one of the main reasons why the Red scare was horrible , if they left religion alone maybe the USSR could still exist .
 
If the communists are stalinists , then a dieu pope , One of the things i really despise about Communists is their hatred for religion , you could build a socialist paradise with a religious people , not with the unnecessary bullying and killing of believers just because Marx and Engels were atheists , i think this one of the main reasons why the Red scare was horrible , if they left religion alone maybe the USSR could still exist .
Pretty sure that the whole anti-religion shtick surfaced because at the time of the initial Marxist brooding, the clergy was seen as but another class of oppressors. Thus, combatting 'religious superstittion' was a way to undermine the power of the state and church over the people's loyalty.

Also, pretty sure there were more factors in the downfall of the USSR than antagonism towards religion.
 
If the communists are stalinists , then a dieu pope , One of the things i really despise about Communists is their hatred for religion , you could build a socialist paradise with a religious people , not with the unnecessary bullying and killing of believers just because Marx and Engels were atheists , i think this one of the main reasons why the Red scare was horrible , if they left religion alone maybe the USSR could still exist .

Pretty sure that atheist politics wasn't very important reason for downfall of USSR. There was many other issues. And Russian Empire was deeply religious and ultra-conservative and it was one of major reason why it didn't survive.

And USSR didn't whole time of its existence persecute religious people. Religion pracitsing had much limitations but usually them let alone so long when they understand keep their heads down.
 
The biggest source of conflict won't be about religion itself, the act of worship, because communists would be pragmatic enough to let people worship in their own way. However, the catholic church in Italy own a lot of land, run several corporations and own a lot of property and money.
 
Pretty sure that atheist politics wasn't very important reason for downfall of USSR.

That's not true, John Paul II had a crucial role in the collapse of the soviet bloc

"In June 1979, Pope John Paul II made his first pilgrimage to Poland, a nine-day-visit that produced an awe-inspiring spiritual awakening in Poland and the birth of the Solidarity trade union. Tens of millions of Poles realized that "we are the society and the country is ours." The pope's historic pilgrimage set in motion "a revolution of the spirit" that resulted -- a mere decade later -- in the collapse of communism in eastern and central Europe."
 
How strictly communist are they? If they are willing to amend Marxist thinking they could try to build a 'true church' that espouses proper Christian principles (implying or outright stating that Jesus was a proto-communist) this church could be complete with its own Commie Pope. IOTL the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association could provide an example of how such an institution could work
 
I'm not sure about Cuba.

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Depend, if this happen just after WWII with the PCI come to power thanks to force (but this need an enourmous series of PoD) or with the election (much much easier), Togliatti (or any communist leader with functioning brain Cell) will leave the Vatican alone, as any direct confrontation will create an enourmous series of trouble as differently by the Lama in China, catholics supporters at the time were both plenty and very armed.
The problem if something like the Iran hostage crisis happen, basically autonomous communist group without authorization from the chiefs take the inititative and storm the vatican...basically we can have a civil war brewing
 
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