The Universal Religious Colour Scheme (TURCS without Caicos)

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  1. Tomislav Addai Well-Known Member

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    And below is a map of original religions in different parts of the world (colours not in palette: Zamolxism in Balkans, Druidism in Britain and Spain, Kemetism in Egypt, Nabatean in NW Arabia, Semitic pagan in Yemen, Zuni in Afghanistan)
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  2. Tomislav Addai Well-Known Member

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    A map of common non-reformed Christian denominations of the Old World, by traditional distribution.
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    A map of traditional distribution of Protestant/Reformed denominations. Anglican, Reformed, Protestant,Hussite, Uniate, Maronite, Chaldean and Old Believer
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  3. Admiral A. Kolchak Supreme Leader

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    This is great! I hope it gains wider recogntion.
     
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  4. Tomislav Addai Well-Known Member

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    Indeed I am looking forward to seeing the first five maps using the key
     
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  5. Tomislav Addai Well-Known Member

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    I have realized that while my key does cover most of current religions, it would fail in most of AH scenarios, and even by 400 AD it would be quite difficult.

    The standard key leaves one continent untouched, as I have no idea how to divide "Fetishist", while knowing that Wolof and Zulu traditions are quite distict, indeed. Therefore, I am open to suggestions from you guys.

    Also I am planning to add six more expansions:
    1. Dawn of Civilization, for pre-476 scenarios
    2. Pagans of the World,Divide , to cover various mythologies more specifically
    3. In Search for Nirwana (to deal with organized religion in lands east of the Indus river , which means I will need some help here)
    4. Yet Another Schism (the various branches if Christianity until the burning of Jan Hus)
    5. A Myriad of Denominations (the various branches of Protestantism, as well as new religious movements)
    6. A God of the Rings (for LotR scenarios).
    The earliest expansion will reach this thread most optimistically on Thursday evening, more probably on Friday.
    Anyhow, I am open to suggestions and lists.
     
  6. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    With those extensions, TURCS will definitely catch on. I have also gone over to using religion colours for extremist states of that religion, @Skallagrim and so, such schemes will catch on even for maps not centred around religion per se.
     
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  7. Tomislav Addai Well-Known Member

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    Any suggestions for The Dawn of Civilization?

    A proposal:
    • Egyptian group
    • Mesopotamian group
    • Semitic group
    • Anatolian group
    • Abrahamic group (without Christianity and Islam)
    • Hellenistic group
      • Philosophic subgroup
      • Mystery subgroup
    • Iranian group
    • Gnostic group
      • Early Gnostic subgroup
      • Christian Gnostic subgroup
      • Islamic Gnostic subgroup
    • Islamic group
      • Sunni subgroup
      • Shiah subgroup
      • Kharijiy subgroup
     
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  8. Threadmarks: List of Bugs

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    • Maronite colour identical to Animist, to be changed fixed
    • Mithraic mysteries lack a colour. Will be fixed when Mithraism is added fixed
    • Fix islamic gnostic name
    • Wikipedia lists a separate Luwian religion. Should I add it to Anatolian?
    • Beta Israel denomination to be added
    • Add some NAmerican mythologies
    • Add Sufism
    • Add Mutazilism
    • Add Gnostic denominations: Bardasianites
    • Add more Jewish groups
    • Add Georgian and Vainakh mythology, add Kalash people
    • Add Georgian patriarchate colour, for Serbia and Bulgaria as well
    • Monithelits ar NOT Maronites. They deserve a separate colour.
    • Add following: Pneumatomachians, Origenism, Anomeanism.: Origenism not added, as there was no schismatic movement around him.
    • Add Military orders for non-Catholic religions
    • Add Edinovertsy
    • Knights Hospitaller
    • add Skoptsy
    • Add Johannites as Gnostic sect
     
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  9. Threadmarks: The Dawn of Civilization

    Tomislav Addai Well-Known Member

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    I decided NOT to add Islam into The Dawn of Civilization, due to Islam emerging at a much later date, but mostly because of me being tired :/ and thinking Islamis a way too diverse religious group to be dealt with at such time. As you may notice, some religions do appear more than once, with Mandeism appearing three times, mostly due to difficult classification.
     
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  10. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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    Nice, but you should probably change "Islamic" to "Arabic". That makes more sense.
     
  11. Tomislav Addai Well-Known Member

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    You mean the Islamic subgroup of "Gnostic"? well the thing is that the members of those branches actually declare themselves to be part of "Shia islam", mostly to escape persecution, as has been written numerous times on M. Izadys maps: http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/maps.shtml . I know it does lack some logic, but why have I lumped them into that subgroup? well because they declare themselves as Muslims (The Druze doing it so very rarely, e.g. for the purposes of the Syrian constitution)
     
  12. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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    Dude I don't think anyone who is Muslim will mind. Just call the group "Arabic"
     
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    If this post gets more likes than mine below (

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    then I will implement the change :) .

    Although I have realized that neither the Alevis, nor the Zikris, nor the Yarsanis and Yezidis speak Arabic though (speaking mostly Kurdish dialects, with some Alevis speaking Turkish, and the Zikris speak Baloch). Leaving us with Arabophone Druze and Alawites. If we consider that over a half of the denominations in the group don´t speak Arabic, such a change would be even more confusing
     
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  14. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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    I just got a like. And FYI "Arabic" isn't referring to the language, it is referring to the peninsula.
     
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    If we're being pedantic, "Arabic" refers to the language, and "Arabian" to the geographical region (and when they're not being referred to ass Arabs, both seems to be in common use to refer to the people).

    Really, saying "Arabic" doesn't refer to the Arabic language is like saying that "English" does not refer to the English language.
     
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  16. Threadmarks: The Dawn of Civilization, Description

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    Kemetic
    Key deities: Amon, Ra, Isis
    Key locations: Siwa, Giza, Karnak, Thebes
    Liturgical language: Egyptian
    Atenism
    Key deities:Aton
    Key locations: Amarna
    Liturgical language: Egyptian
    Elamite:
    Key deities: Kiririsha, In-shushinak, Jabru
    Key locations: Susa, Awan, Anshan
    Liturgical language: Elamite
    Sumerian
    Key deities: Enlil, Enki, Inanna
    Key locations: Ur, Uruk, Lagash, Nippur
    Liturgical language: Sumerian
    Babylonian
    Key deities: Anu, Enki, Enlil, Ishtar, Marduk
    Key locations: Babylon, Ur, Akkad
    Liturgical language: Sumerian, Akkadian
    Ashurism
    Key deities:Ashur
    Key locations: Ashur, Niniweh, Dur Sharukkin
    Liturgical language: Akkadian, Aramaic
    Canaanite
    Key deities: Baal, Melqart, El
    Key locations: Tyre, Ugarit, Carthage
    Liturgical language: Canaanite
    Nabatean
    Key deities: Dusharra, al-Uzza, Manat
    Key locations: Petra, Sobata, Bostra, Hegra
    Liturgical language: Nabatean
    Arabic
    Key deities: Hubal, al-Uzza, Manat
    Key locations: Mecca, other locations
    Liturgical language: Arabic
    Hittite
    Key deities: Tarhunt, Telipinu, Inara
    Key locations: Arinna, Ain Dara, Nerik
    Liturgical language: Hattian, Hittitte
    Hurrian
    Key deities: Šauška, Teššub, Kumarbi, Nergal
    Key locations: Yazilikaya, Kahat, Urkesh
    Liturgical language:Hurrian

    TBC

    Also, the next upcoming expansion will cover the lands from Gibraltar to Ordos, from Ural to Madagascar, so awiat the Crescent of the Saracens

     
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  17. Threadmarks: Crescent of the Saracens

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    This involved a huge amount of branches, especially amongst the Shias . I have covered almost all Kharjite brnaches, dunno if I should add the Sufi orders as well.
     
  18. XO Maenadicus neohellenism but ironically | they/them please!

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    my god it's greener than brighton pavilion <3
     
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    A paradox - that pavilion was built in the Indo-Saracenic architectural style inspired by Hindu India.
     
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    Would be very helpful, e.g. in an Islamwank scenario.
     
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