The Union Forever: A TL
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You would have the Princely states maybe banding together on one side or the other. The other parts would depend on which way the people in charge of the area, or have the most influence, would want to go. IIRC one of the things during the run up to Indian independence in our time was the fact that up until the last minute some of the Princely states did not want to be a part of a larger India and just keep there own little country. Some of these states were allowed a small army in our timeline and this would impact how they go also.
That's what I meant by "other areas" gaining independence. Kashmir is, perhaps, the most famous example from OTL, but Hyderabad also tried to hold its own (for some reason, they wanted to form a new country called, of all things, "Osmanistan"), which led to the Indian invasion of that state, codenamed Operation Polo.
JJohnson
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Here is a map of the U.S. before the POD. This really leaves a lot of room to draw the borders differently. Does any body now why Arizona and New Mexico were split like they were in OTL?
New Mexico's east/west borders are there because they're 3° east/west of Santa Fe, and that would make Arizona roughly the same size as New Mexico. Wyoming has its straight-edge border to make it 7° wide, like ND, SD, WA, CO, and OR are. Idaho got the edge of the Bitterroot Mountains instead of the continental divide due to Sidney Edgerton, who knew Lincoln personally, apparently. He was appointed to represent those in what became Montana in defining their borders, in 1864, Montana got the border pushed to the Bitterroot Mountains. Is this changed in this timeline?
JJohnson
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Hey everybody, based off of a discussion with Ares96, I have been thinking about a possible retcon of some state borders in the TL. Basically, it is poor AH writing to have a North and South Dakota the exact same as OTL. Also after a little research it looks like it is also unlikely (although certainly not impossible) that Wyoming and Montana would keep their names as well.
I am trying to split OTL North and South Dakotas along the Missouri River. While the TTL version's of Montana and Wyoming would have different borders as well. Does anybody have any suggestions for what to name these states? I think the state next to Minnesota would simply be called Dakota.
I would love to here y'all's thoughts.
Cheers!.
The following is a rough sketch I made or some possible border changes. (original map courtesy Ares96)
In the era when Arizona's a territory and Nevada's already a state, it would make sense for Nevada to gain the leftward angle of Arizona so Nevada can have waterway access. Before cars, water access was vitally important in this era, so a state would have much more sway to gain that bit of land than a territory.
Yes, due to butterflies Sidney Edgerton is not appointed to represent Montana so Jefferson (OTL Idaho) keeps its continetal divide border. As far as Nevada getting Arizona's north west corner succesful lobbying by the territorial governor allows Arizona to keep it.
The Durand Line
Hey everyone, something that has always bugged my about this TL is its use of the Durand line for the border between Afghanistan and British India. Having been drawn in 1893 it would no doubt be different in the TL. Does anybody have a realistic proposal for where the border should be? This will have important consequences for the division of postwar India. Thanks for the help.
Hey everyone, something that has always bugged my about this TL is its use of the Durand line for the border between Afghanistan and British India. Having been drawn in 1893 it would no doubt be different in the TL. Does anybody have a realistic proposal for where the border should be? This will have important consequences for the division of postwar India. Thanks for the help.
The Indus? That would leave Baluchistan within Afghanistan, which is very odd, and besides, the British already had considerable investments to the west of the river.
How about Afghanistan regains the Pashtun parts of OTL's Federally Admistered Tribal Areas and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (formally North West Frontier Province)? The Afghans have traditional claims on these regions going back to the Durrani Empire of the 1700's. This would probably lead to a much stronger and more stable Afghan state. Britian would still have Balochistan, Sindh, and Kashmir and Jumma.
Sounds good. I didn't mean Baluchistan and the area up to the Indus all the way down to the coast; just those areas.
TUF: The Road Ahead
Hey Everyone,
Sadly my involvement in this timeline will be heavily curtailed over the next two months as I prepare to deploy to Afghanistan in June. I would like to thank everyone for all the support and help. I will try to post when I can and hopefully will be able to make some posts if I have internet access overseas. Worst case scenario I will resume this TL when I return. I think that 1950 is a good place to pause, and I would like to take this hiatus as an opportunity to refine the current material. If anyone would care to continue to make the electoral maps, world maps, and U.S. State and foreign nation flags that would be great. Thanks for all the help. Cheers!
Hey Everyone,
Sadly my involvement in this timeline will be heavily curtailed over the next two months as I prepare to deploy to Afghanistan in June. I would like to thank everyone for all the support and help. I will try to post when I can and hopefully will be able to make some posts if I have internet access overseas. Worst case scenario I will resume this TL when I return. I think that 1950 is a good place to pause, and I would like to take this hiatus as an opportunity to refine the current material. If anyone would care to continue to make the electoral maps, world maps, and U.S. State and foreign nation flags that would be great. Thanks for all the help. Cheers!
As much as I hate to see the TL go for now, I'd like to thank you for your service. You are a true inspiration to us all. God speed Mac.
I stopped following this after the Great War ended, and WOW! It returns in its fullest glory. 
Everything looks good so far (still on page 56). Thanks for the hard work.
Marc A
P.S. Mac, might I ask which branch of the armed forces you are serving in?
Everything looks good so far (still on page 56). Thanks for the hard work.
Marc A
P.S. Mac, might I ask which branch of the armed forces you are serving in?
Good luck, buddy, and thank you for your service! It's been great reading and helping you develop the details.
I did not know you were in the military; I just got out last July myself. For how many months are you being deployed?
Keep your head down; that place is rough.
Good luck over there sir! I hope the weather doesn't proove to brutal and you return home safely!
God bless.
Good luck Mac! Although personally I don't agree with that war, it's still good to see that there are people willing to bleed and die for their country.
Thank you for your service Mac! Best of luck to you and a speedy return home.