What about revanchism and economic problems? Shouldn't the French economy be destabilised by the loss in the Great War and the following reparations payments? I'm aware that the peace treaty wasn't as bad as OTL, but still, there should be some bad times, and that will mean that revanchists will be listened to more.
The Union Forever: A TL
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Actually the Third French Republic is doing pretty well. The nastier revanchist elements were dealt with in the years following the war by President Marcel Ames. Ames National Republican Party has dominated the French government for most of the post war period at the expense of the left wing Socialist Workers Party and the rightwing Patriotic Renewal Party. France still possesses all of its core territory plus Alsace-Loraine, Corsica, and a sizable chunk of North Africa. This means that there is little outcry for revanchism. Economically speaking France has fully recovered from the Great War. Remember that France in exchange for losing virtually all of its oversea empire did not have to pay reparations which aided its relatively swift recovery. Militarily France's armed forces are still limited by the Treaty of Brussels and would be no match for those of neighboring Germany. The forces France does possess are busy holding down Algeria or since 1936 garrisoning a string of forts along the German and Italian borders.
Additionally, I don't remember you mentioning any de-industrialization of France after the great war.
Oh yeah, what is with Germany and the UK having influences in different parts of Indonesia? You've got Germany with the bulk, but the UK with Bali and the Nusa Tengarra islands, and some of the Maluku islands as well. I see that it's still under Dutch control and Germany influences the Dutch heavily... need some clarification.
WRT decolonization, lack of a second Great War may lead to a much lower level of development within Africa. I've been reading into decolonization a bit to try to help you figure out some of the borders, and while I've turned up nothing to suggest any landform, demographic, or political reasons to specify any borders, I have learned a lot.
This is where I started.
WRT decolonization, lack of a second Great War may lead to a much lower level of development within Africa. I've been reading into decolonization a bit to try to help you figure out some of the borders, and while I've turned up nothing to suggest any landform, demographic, or political reasons to specify any borders, I have learned a lot.
This is where I started.
My mistake. I actually just forgot to change thier dutch color to German-influenced grey. It is meant to show that the Netherlands often follows German economic policy due to thier neighbors sheer size and proximity. It would be unfair to say that Germany "dominates" the Netherlands though.
It'd be more fun if the left-wing opposition party was called the National Socialist Workers' Party. But I think someone else did something similar.
Wouldn't the French want to get rid of the army restrictions by now, though? I don't think even the moderates in government would be pleased with this infringement of their sovereign rights.
Indeed, the French will probably be free of them soon. Maybe on the 40th anniversary of the war's end?
Well, that's not quite what I meant. What I meant was that some Stresemann-like figure would presumably start to lobby the Russians and Germans for acceptance of lighter restrictions on the French military buildup. Perhaps something has … happened in Spain to mandate a military buffer, lending such a figure some level of credibility.
These are really good questions and the TL has been largely silent on these issues. What are y'all's thoughts?
I can't see universal health care quite yet, but perhaps it could be a point for the united(ish) Americas to build on?
Here is a rough map of the governments of the TL's nations. Republics are in blue. Monarchies are in purple. Colonies are shaded the same as that of their master. The year is 1950.
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Who are the Kings of Bohemia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Croatia, Hungary and Macedonia?
Also, however did Italy and Egypt become republics?
Liberia is a mistake. I'll fix it.
Italy became a Republic when the monarchy collapsed during the Great War.
Egypt was declared a republic when it declared its independence from Britian in the early 1940's.
As for , Slovenia, Slovakia, Croatia, Hungary and Macedonia I will have to get back to you. Any ideas or should these be republics?
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Map request of Europe
Hey everybody. Can someone please volunteer to make a detailed map of the TL's postwar Europe. I simply do no possess the skills.
Hey everybody. Can someone please volunteer to make a detailed map of the TL's postwar Europe. I simply do no possess the skills.
Too bad. I was hoping it'd be King Cheeseman III.
When the monarchy what?
Why didn't they just restore a King from the Muhammad Ali dynasty?
Hungary and Bohemia could probably be ruled by Habsburgs, but the others would have a hard time stomaching it. I'd not be surprised if some of them were republics, or possibly had local nobles (as in Serbia and Montenegro IOTL) or foreign princes (as in Romania and Bulgaria IOTL) accept the crown. Why does Macedonia exist, anyway? It was considered part of Serbia or Bulgaria, depending on who you asked, up until the communist period. Was it some kind of compromise settlement after TTL's Balkan War that brought it into existence? Or was that region freed with Russian aid? If the latter, I'd imagine it'd be part of Bulgaria, along with Pirot and West Thrace.
I could try, some time. Have you considered simply updating the Worlda map? Both the basemap and the colour scheme are very aged.