The Union Forever: A TL

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Mac Gregor

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Here is the official retcon of the continental United States. Map courtesy Ares96, thanks so much for the help! Details are listed below. Let me know what y'all think. Cheers!

1. Name: Absaroka Capital: Boreman (OTL Billings, MT) Date of Statehood: November 5, 1888 Postal Abbreviation: AB
2. Name: Pasapa Capital: Beryl(OTL Bowman, ND) Date of Statehood: March 16, 1887 Postal Abbreviation: PS
3. Name: Laramie Capital: Fort Laramie (OTL Fort Laramie, WY) Date of Statehood: July 3, 1887 Postal Abbreviation: LR
4. Name: Dakota Capital: Lincoln City (OTL Bismarck, ND) Date of Statehood: March 6, 1885 Postal Abbreviation: DK
5. Name: Jefferson Capital: Shermanburg (OTL Boise, ID) Date of Statehood: November 17, 1886 Postal Abbreviation: JF
6. Name: Mahetane Capital: Tapley (OTL Oklahoma City, OK) Date of Statehood: November 9, 1897 Postal Abbreviation: MH
7. Name: Sequoyah Capital: Tallasi (OTL Tulsa, OK) Date of Statehood: November 9, 1897 Postal Abbreviation: SQ
 

naraht

Laramie's Capital...

Do you mean OTL Fort Laramie (current population about 250) or OTL Laramie current population 30,000?
 

Mac Gregor

State Name Origins

Name: Absaroka Origin: Named after the Absaroka Mountains and Absaroka Indians a Siouan people also known as the Crow.

Name: Pasapa Origin: Derived from the Lakota words for Black Hills Paha Sapa.

Name: Laramie Origin: Named after the Laramie River and Mountains. Derived from the name the 19th Century French fur trader, Jacques La Ramee.

Name: Dakota Origin: Named after the Dakota Indians also known as the Sioux.

Name: Jefferson Origin: Named after the third president of the United States Thomas Jefferson.

Name: Mahetane Origin: Derived from the Cheyenne words for red man Ma’hetane

Name: Sequoyah Origin: Named after the Cherokee scholar Sequoyah, inventor of the Cherokee Syllabary.
 

Mac Gregor

metastasis_d said:
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Indeed. I am working on the next update. My question for the thread is how soon could the U.S. and her allies launch an offensive against Peru and Bolivia. Assuming that the U.S. had already pre-staged most of their forces (mobilization of active army units and arranged for transport) could the Americans attack in November of 1949?
 
metastasis_d

metastasis_d

Mac Gregor said:
Indeed. I am working on the next update. My question for the thread is how soon could the U.S. and her allies launch an offensive against Peru and Bolivia. Assuming that the U.S. had already pre-staged most of their forces (mobilization of active army units and arranged for transport) could the Americans attack in November of 1949?
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If they've already mobilized fully? I don't see why not.

What is the military tech level at compared to OTL? I assume nowhere near as much as 1949 OTL, what with the lack of a huge second great war.
 

Mac Gregor

metastasis_d said:
If they've already mobilized fully? I don't see why not.

What is the military tech level at compared to OTL? I assume nowhere near as much as 1949 OTL, what with the lack of a huge second great war.
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ITTL the military tech level in 1949 is pretty much like 1940 in OTL in most respects.
 
metastasis_d

metastasis_d

Mac Gregor said:
ITTL the military tech level in 1949 is pretty much like 1940 in OTL in most respects.
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Okay, that's about where I would've put it.

Do you have some numbers to work with? I assume that with a more ethnically mixed US a lot of race issues should be at least a little ahead of where OTL 1949 was, even without a 2nd great war. If this is the case, I can assume an integrated military, and thus a fairly cohesive one. There are a lot more Spanish speaking Americans, what with the extra territories and all, and a lot of OTL Hispanic American families (that I know) have an impressive military tradition. With so much in the Caribbean and the Pacific (especially the Caribbean, seeing as how there are 3 bona fide states there) the US would maintain a pretty impressive Navy. I can infer a lot of immigration from the Philippines as well, but correct me if I'm wrong there.

All these factors lead me to believe the US probably held a sizable standing military. While that will be very important in the coming war, it will also take a while to mobilize it all; that said I can see an initial expeditionary force being rapidly assembled.

Having the 2 different canals in the US control will also be pretty helpful to keep supplies/troops moving and affect civilian traffic less than if only the Panama had been built.
 
FleetMac

FleetMac

Along with a bigger Navy, we can also expect a larger or better equipped (or both) Marine Corps as well, since the two branches are pretty much tied at the hip. Which leads me to my point; with a powerful USN/USMC combination, might we also see amphibious landings in the future? Perhaps a South American version of Inchon, landing far down the coast to cut off the Peruvian forces in Ecuador?

After all, there were many beach assaults in The Great War (the Caribbean and South Pacific theaters), which IMHO would lead to a lot of the same questions being asked ITTL as IOTL regarding how to properly storm contested beaches in the most efficient way possible (especially if MajGen LeJeune or LtCol Ellis still get to wear the uniform).
 
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