The Union Forever: A TL
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There's supposed to be one more update from the present day I think; 2011 that is.
Overall, the world seems to have gotten a happy ending.
It deserves one.
Except if you happen to be a colonial subject with the wrong skin color, though it looks like the US of TTL is the most humane colonizer (though this is still a relative term).
There will be two more updates before the TL ends. We are going to jump 100 years from the last update to 2011. The next update will deal with the world in 2011 and the last update will describe the U.S. in particular. As such I am still interested in hearing what the TL's world will look like in 2011. My only comment is that there will not be a Second Great War. Also what U.S. constitutional amendments would people like to see over the next 100 years?
Earl_of_Somerset
Banned
I think that there will be a lesser decolonization movement, due to there being no WWII.
I think France can hold Algeria and Italy Tunis-Tripoli forever.
Settler Colonialism there will over time eventually dwarf the native population. (Decolonization will occur slower so i think that the French and Italians have more time, plus this time around all there settlers will only be going to one colony instead of all over thier empries)
Also due to the lack of Square milage, i think all the pacific islands would be lumped together into one state. Although if kept seperate they could add up to a even 60 (provided the other states in my list make the cut)
I also think that That Guyana could remain British and Dutch Guyana could remain dutch.
I do think that Spain will find a way to take over Morocco.
And Anglo-Abbyssian War (U.K v.s Ethiopia) sounds cool.
As for the Canal States, I dont believe (atleast Panama) either canal needs to be returned to another nation. Plus due to the fact Spanish speaking Majority areas became states, i dont see why the canal zones cant either.
The Canal Zones are actually somewhat large. Panama Canal Zone OTL (it may be larger ITTL, and i imagine it would) is half the size of Rhode Island. Nicuragua i would imagine is even larger.
The Canal zones could be territories in 2011, or maybe could get alot of immigration from refugees escaping the Hostile Central American Governments, and have enough to become a state.
Panama is however gonna need some serious work done on it since the french destroyed its locks. It may need to be dredged out to sea level (what would we do with all that dirt????) and might need to be expanded to get more water to supply it (maybe a purchase more surrounding land from Colombia?)
I think France can hold Algeria and Italy Tunis-Tripoli forever.
Settler Colonialism there will over time eventually dwarf the native population. (Decolonization will occur slower so i think that the French and Italians have more time, plus this time around all there settlers will only be going to one colony instead of all over thier empries)
Also due to the lack of Square milage, i think all the pacific islands would be lumped together into one state. Although if kept seperate they could add up to a even 60 (provided the other states in my list make the cut)
I also think that That Guyana could remain British and Dutch Guyana could remain dutch.
I do think that Spain will find a way to take over Morocco.
And Anglo-Abbyssian War (U.K v.s Ethiopia) sounds cool.
As for the Canal States, I dont believe (atleast Panama) either canal needs to be returned to another nation. Plus due to the fact Spanish speaking Majority areas became states, i dont see why the canal zones cant either.
The Canal Zones are actually somewhat large. Panama Canal Zone OTL (it may be larger ITTL, and i imagine it would) is half the size of Rhode Island. Nicuragua i would imagine is even larger.
The Canal zones could be territories in 2011, or maybe could get alot of immigration from refugees escaping the Hostile Central American Governments, and have enough to become a state.
Panama is however gonna need some serious work done on it since the french destroyed its locks. It may need to be dredged out to sea level (what would we do with all that dirt????) and might need to be expanded to get more water to supply it (maybe a purchase more surrounding land from Colombia?)
Lincoln has done his country a great honour. He served with great pride and dignity and has performed admirably. Great legacy to try and measure up to.
Also. Roosevelt for President!!!!!!! Sweet. He won. Envisioning eight strong years for him, hopefully. Especially if he anything like he was in OTL. The democrats also have to wisen up sooner or later, because if they do not they will definitely be out of office for decades to come.
Also. Roosevelt for President!!!!!!! Sweet. He won. Envisioning eight strong years for him, hopefully. Especially if he anything like he was in OTL. The democrats also have to wisen up sooner or later, because if they do not they will definitely be out of office for decades to come.
US intervention in the great war was because of some stupid message Napolean sent to his cousin, what if he never did that? Would France have won?
Its weird that now I am thinking of alternate possibilities to this TL which itself is alternate history.
Its weird that now I am thinking of alternate possibilities to this TL which itself is alternate history.
Earl_of_Somerset
Banned
An Alternate History of an Alternate History? Sounds interesting in my opinion.
I will probably not start a new TL anytime soon. However, I have thought about doing a spin off from this TL where the Bonaparte- Hanotaux letters are never uncovered and the U.S. and U.K. stay out of the war. Also I have thought of doing a realistic CSA victory TL.
Agreed. There are already a ton of CSA-victory TLs around here. An AH within AH would be more interesting.
Marc A
i think you should do the one about the letters tbh but you know i am wondering would the French even won as the Russians would have been able to beat the Austrians and Ottomans I mean the British and Americas did not do all that much against them than simply speed it up really and once they are gone and the Russians can deploy their full strength against the French the Italians will probably get in and we may end up with a status quo ante bellum peace
Earl_of_Somerset
Banned
Cheers for Mac Gregor!
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@zeppelin247
the allies were falling completely apart before the USA and UK intervened.
the allies were falling completely apart before the USA and UK intervened.
Maybe this weekend or next week.
Honestly the more speculation I can get about the TL's possible future from 1911 to 2011 will help. Now, I know this is my TL and with there being a hundred years from the last update to the next almost anything is possible, still I would still like to hear more from people about what they think the World of 2011 would look like. A few questions I would like to pose are
1) What about Zionism in the TL?
2) Would the Arab portions of the Ottoman Empire stay united with Turkey our breakaway?
3) What would the Tech level be like in 2011?
4) What kind of political parties should there be in the Russian Empire?
5) What about Communism/Marxism in the TL? (Yes, it does exists in the TL) What nation if any is most likely to go Red?
6) Will Ireland breakaway as OTL or stay part of the United Kingdom?
7) What would people like to see the outcome of the Chinese Civil War be?
8) How will the lack of involvement in the world wars effect the future development of the low countries?
9) How will the lack of a Second World War affect the Indian Home Rule Movement?