The Union Forever: A TL

Good update Macrgregor! It's nice to see Afghanistan become a rather stable and modern country TTL so that they don't have to suffer any constant wars of terror. Kabul may not be Abu Dabhi but at least you don't have to wake up to the sounds of bombs.

Long live the Queen!

Interesting to see the PTO come about which will most likely be TTL's version of SEATO. It's safe to say that with the IEF down the United States is a superpower that is slightly above Germany thanks to its control of both the Pacific and the Americas. I can sense that this might become the start of a Cold War with the Technocrates which will lead to Rowland developing his own doctrine and making defense spending his main priority for the second term. Waiting to see how this will go in the future both on Earth and in space.

And it looks like the Rowland Era is on the rise with Pete becoming what is probably going to be TTL's version of Ronald Reagan for the Republicans. He certainly owned the Democratic Party in the election with a whopping 559 Electoral Votes. What is the American population by the way? Now that the Republicans will continue to be in power, it looks like modern industrialization will continue along with the possibility of space colonization emerging in the coming decades. Rowland 2008!

Must've been really awkward for the ticket to be comprised of two extreme viewpoints on a treaty Really doesn't make any sense as while it is traditional for a party to get two candidates of a slightly different ideology on the ticket, here it would be like if Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders were running a campaign together. I can see the results of that.
Nugnet: I support the PTO.
Sweenie: Fuck the PTO!

By the way since it says that the Republicans chose Rowland at the convention and Nugnet at the Democrats, is there virtually no election primaries TTL? I would've thought that someone over the years would be for it, even with no '68 DNC Riots.
 
Is the global balance still in favour of monarchies, or have republics caught up, albeit later ITTL? I presume that most of Europe is still monarchical.

Seemingly ITTL is more monarchies than in OTL. And Europe is pretty monarhist. If I am not wrong, France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, San Marino, Croatia, Slovenia, Poland, Latvia and Estonia are only republics in Europe. And Checnya, Dagestan and Georgia too if you count them as European countries.
 
Is the global balance still in favour of monarchies, or have republics caught up, albeit later ITTL? I presume that most of Europe is still monarchical.
There isn't really an ideological difference between European monarchies and the US though, right? The only powerful non democratic monarchy is the IEF, and that comes in the form of single party nationalism rather than absolutism. The ideological conflict isn't Republics vs Monarchies, its Democracy vs Technocracy.
 
There isn't really an ideological difference between European monarchies and the US though, right? The only powerful non democratic monarchy is the IEF, and that comes in the form of single party nationalism rather than absolutism. The ideological conflict isn't Republics vs Monarchies, its Democracy vs Technocracy.

Well, no. I was more referring to the fact that in IOTL, Monarchy is far rarer in comparison to this timeline, as opposed to any genuine conflict between the two systems.
 
I don't know if this has been done recently but if not could you give us a current world power ranking based on Military, Economic and cultural power? Maybe even the most prestigious countries? I'd really like to know who stands where. Loving the TL btw been here since the end of the civil war. Keep it up!
 
Always did wonder how well Syria would interact with the TP; considering how the alliance is predicated upon large republics being relatively coequal.

Either way, still good to see the effects of a peaceful Levant without internecine warfare. It must have done wonders for the region.



Good to see Madras moving up still. Would it be relatively accurate to say that they are roughly equivalent to OTL Japan in terms of development/importance?

Regarding Madras, OTL Japan probably isn't an exact equivalent. As of 2008, it is the 8th biggest economy. It is more of an active regional political power than OTL's Japan. GPD per capita is less than OTL Japan.
 
Good update Macrgregor! It's nice to see Afghanistan become a rather stable and modern country TTL so that they don't have to suffer any constant wars of terror. Kabul may not be Abu Dabhi but at least you don't have to wake up to the sounds of bombs.

Long live the Queen!

Interesting to see the PTO come about which will most likely be TTL's version of SEATO. It's safe to say that with the IEF down the United States is a superpower that is slightly above Germany thanks to its control of both the Pacific and the Americas. I can sense that this might become the start of a Cold War with the Technocrates which will lead to Rowland developing his own doctrine and making defense spending his main priority for the second term. Waiting to see how this will go in the future both on Earth and in space.

And it looks like the Rowland Era is on the rise with Pete becoming what is probably going to be TTL's version of Ronald Reagan for the Republicans. He certainly owned the Democratic Party in the election with a whopping 559 Electoral Votes. What is the American population by the way? Now that the Republicans will continue to be in power, it looks like modern industrialization will continue along with the possibility of space colonization emerging in the coming decades. Rowland 2008!

Must've been really awkward for the ticket to be comprised of two extreme viewpoints on a treaty Really doesn't make any sense as while it is traditional for a party to get two candidates of a slightly different ideology on the ticket, here it would be like if Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders were running a campaign together. I can see the results of that.
Nugnet: I support the PTO.
Sweenie: Fuck the PTO!

By the way since it says that the Republicans chose Rowland at the convention and Nugnet at the Democrats, is there virtually no election primaries TTL? I would've thought that someone over the years would be for it, even with no '68 DNC Riots.

While the Democratic platform did officially endorse ratification "with some revissions" it was still awkward for Nugent and Sweenie to be on the same ticket. The idea at the time is that it would help with party unity.

There are primaries ITTL. Nugent was chosen via primaries.
 
Regarding Madras, OTL Japan probably isn't an exact equivalent. As of 2008, it is the 8th biggest economy. It is more of an active regional political power than OTL's Japan. GPD per capita is less than OTL Japan.

Fair enough, especially considering how the world economy is different from OTL. Still, that puts it on par with Italy (and likely improving at a much greater rate), while it also has its own little organization of which it is the leader. It is an interesting dynamic that isn't in place OTL, surely, which makes it so.
 
Can we have a list of Olympic host cities? I tried to do a search but I could only find anything before #10

Here you go!
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Is the global balance still in favour of monarchies, or have republics caught up, albeit later ITTL? I presume that most of Europe is still monarchical.

Seemingly ITTL is more monarchies than in OTL. And Europe is pretty monarhist. If I am not wrong, France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, San Marino, Croatia, Slovenia, Poland, Latvia and Estonia are only republics in Europe. And Checnya, Dagestan and Georgia too if you count them as European countries.

There isn't really an ideological difference between European monarchies and the US though, right? The only powerful non democratic monarchy is the IEF, and that comes in the form of single party nationalism rather than absolutism. The ideological conflict isn't Republics vs Monarchies, its Democracy vs Technocracy.

Well, no. I was more referring to the fact that in IOTL, Monarchy is far rarer in comparison to this timeline, as opposed to any genuine conflict between the two systems.

True, but "global balance" implies a conflict. Whatever.

Simple monarchy vs. republic tension which was much more common in TTL's 20th century than ours, has died down considerably but is still there. Democratic vs. Authoritarianism is a more common divide in the early 21st century.
 
I don't know if this has been done recently but if not could you give us a current world power ranking based on Military, Economic and cultural power? Maybe even the most prestigious countries? I'd really like to know who stands where. Loving the TL btw been here since the end of the civil war. Keep it up!

Excellent questions and thanks for your support! I usually, do this every 25 years, but how about I give an update when we get to 2010. Sound good?
 
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