The Union Forever: A TL

[The Congressman]

Ha! The King is quite a cheeky fellow isn't he
I'm liking a powerful British Commonwealth. Have they retained their military strength from the Asia Pacific war?

 

[metastasis_d]

On January 21, the Danish West Indies were granted home rule becoming a self-governing component of the Kingdom of Denmark, much as Iceland had become decades earlier. Consisting of the islands of St. Croix, St. Jan, and St. Thomas, the Danish West Indies had over the course of the 20th century grown from an unprofitable backwater into a bustling destination for Scandinavian and German tourists.

Huh; I'd forgotten the VI never got sold to the US ITTL. Would be a great tourist destination.

The

XVI Winter Olympiad was cancelled due to the ongoing civil war in the Imperial Eurasian Federation. This was the first time that the modern Olympic Games had been cancelled since their revival in 1918. Most of Verny, the scheduled host city located in the IEF’s Kazahkiya region, would fall to rebels loyal to Ismail Fitrat’s Democratic Union of Turkic Republics by the end of the year.

Where exactly is that?

While some derided the protocol as hopelessly vague, it did codify the understanding that no foreign power was to send ground troops inside the IEF’s borders and deescalated the threat of nuclear war. The summit concluded with a call to meet again in Geneva the following year.

Now does this mean that there won't be foreign troops in the IEF during their civil war in this TL, or that if there are, it'll spread the conflict?

During the

German general election Chancellor Ernst Osterloh and his Conservative Party was elected for a third term. Osterloh convinced voters that his “steady hand” approach towards the chaos in the IEF would best serve the German Empire. The opposition German Democratic Union (DDU) and the Socialists were naturally dismayed by yet another electoral defeat.

What were the DDU and Socialist factions hoping for as opposed to the steady hand approach?

After years of research the Technate of China’s Directorate of Technology announced the completion of the

Human Genome Map (HGM). The HGM was a massive scientific project that identified the chemical base pairs sequencing of DNA and charted all the genes of the Human genome. Considered a marvel of modern science, Chinese leader Yu Qishan said that the goal of eventually cloning a human being was within reach. Other nations continued to lag behind China prompting fears that a “genetics gap” was former between China and the rest of the world.

Stands to reason a technocratic regime wouldn't get bogged down in abstract ethics of cloning.

While the Bermuda Conference angered many Conservatives

Yeah, how dare those lands of peoples have the gall to want to rule themselves.
I know any anger would be pandering voices, but seriously: if they don't grant self-rule to people who want it, they'll be granting independence later.

 

[HIM Dogson]

No! Self rule is good, but not Republicanism! Bring back the King!

 

[Pokemon Master]

Hm, maybe Jamaica will join the League of American Republics.

 

[MatthewFirth]

Could we have a overview of Summer and Winter Olympics so far please?

 

[RyderWest]

So it seems that the British Commonwealth finally transferred to the Commonwealth of Nations. That would be great for unity, and I imagine the Aussie PM Wamsley would have been pushing for a stabilisation of the former British Empire.

The Danish West Indies still exist? That must be one of the top tourist destinations in the Americas especially since the taboo surrounding the 2-E swimsuit (Created IIRC in 1964 ITTL, rather than the Bikini being created in 1947 like OTL) must have broken down by 2000. The beaches must be packed with European and American tourists, and the German U-Boat crews having R&R must have been causing all sorts of trouble for the Danish police based there.

Too bad the Winter Games got cancelled. They couldn't predict Kutznesov being an absolute thickskulled idiot and rigging the elections however.

Also, is there the prevalence of mass shootings in the US like in OTL in TTL? Especially school and random ones, like Columbine, Virginia Tech and Orlando? What is the deadliest shooting in TTL?

 

[Mac Gregor]

Yeah. Sorry for the confusing language.

No worries. Honestly, I think their combat uniforms wouldn't look that different from other nations militaries. They probably have some cool unit patches though with lots of gears etc. I think their dress uniforms would mostly be grays and blacks. Maybe white for the navy. What do y'all think.

 

[Mac Gregor]

Random Latin America question. Does the region's long history of democracy mean it's mostly just like the OTL region minus political instability and coups? Or have most countries gotten rid of rampant patrimonialism and established truly modern states? if the latter, which countries in particular?

Good question. On the whole Latin America has been better off than our TL. Thanks largely to a more positively involved USA and lesser amounts of Marxist agitation. Corruption is still an issue but again less than OTL. Two of the nations most improved from OTL are Mexico and Nicaragua which would be almost unrecognizable by someone from OTL.

 

[Mac Gregor]

What are status of Greenland and Faroe Islands?

Still ruled by Denmark but with less autonomy than Iceland and the Danish West Indies. Their home rule movements have been growing lately.

 

[Mac Gregor]

Ha! The King is quite a cheeky fellow isn't he
I'm liking a powerful British Commonwealth. Have they retained their military strength from the Asia Pacific war?

Overall the British Commonweath, now the Commonwealth of Nations, military might has decreased due to the need to try and payoff the massive wartime debt. This is especially true of the UK and Canada. Some nations like Madras, Malaya, and Australia have retained a robust military capability for their size. In short their absolute and especially comparative military strength has slipped since the Asia-Pacific War.

 

[Mac Gregor]

Where exactly is that?


Now does this mean that there won't be foreign troops in the IEF during their civil war in this TL, or that if there are, it'll spread the conflict?


What were the DDU and Socialist factions hoping for as opposed to the steady hand approach?

Good questions.

1) Verny is the old name for Almaty, Kazakhstan.

2) It means that at least on paper the great powers agree not to send in boots on the ground. Other indirect forms of aid are theoretically allowed due to them not being explicitly mentioned. What would happen if these provisions were violated is hard to say.

3) Some wanted more support for Pasternak's government. The Socialists wanted a strict "hands off" policy.

 

[Mac Gregor]

No! Self rule is good, but not Republicanism! Bring back the King!

Well that's up to the individual nations know. I imagine that a good number will retain the king. I do find it interesting that in OTL a majority of the Commonwealth members are republics.

 

[Mac Gregor]

Hm, maybe Jamaica will join the League of American Republics.

Well that was the main reason for Jamaica becoming a republic. If accepted this would make them the first dual member of ComNat and the LAR. Not sure how that would work exactly when it comes to trade and military equipment.

 

[Mac Gregor]

Could we have a overview of Summer and Winter Olympics so far please?

Can do. Give me a few days to compile the lists.

 

[Mac Gregor]

So it seems that the British Commonwealth finally transferred to the Commonwealth of Nations. That would be great for unity, and I imagine the Aussie PM Wamsley would have been pushing for a stabilisation of the former British Empire.

The Danish West Indies still exist? That must be one of the top tourist destinations in the Americas especially since the taboo surrounding the 2-E swimsuit (Created IIRC in 1964 ITTL, rather than the Bikini being created in 1947 like OTL) must have broken down by 2000. The beaches must be packed with European and American tourists, and the German U-Boat crews having R&R must have been causing all sorts of trouble for the Danish police based there.

Too bad the Winter Games got cancelled. They couldn't predict Kutznesov being an absolute thickskulled idiot and rigging the elections however.

Also, is there the prevalence of mass shootings in the US like in OTL in TTL? Especially school and random ones, like Columbine, Virginia Tech and Orlando? What is the deadliest shooting in TTL?

So glad you remembered the 2-E.

Regarding mass shootings in the US they still happen but are less frequent than OTL. As of 2000 the worst mass shooting happened in 1997 when a gunman allegedly suffering from schizophrenia shot up a shopping mall in Shermanburg, Jefferson killing 19 people.

 

[Lalli]

Has all LAR members accept new member or is only majority of them enough?

Hopefully gun debate is smarter than in OTL and there not be so much gun maniacs whose 2nd amendment is holier than Bible.

 

[RyderWest]

No worries. Honestly, I think their combat uniforms wouldn't look that different from other nations militaries. They probably have some cool unit patches though with lots of gears etc. I think their dress uniforms would mostly be grays and blacks. Maybe white for the navy. What do y'all think.

I think that would fit the theme of the Technate, to be honest. Grey and black, with a touch of white for the navy.

Overall the British Commonweath, now the Commonwealth of Nations, military might has decreased due to the need to try and payoff the massive wartime debt. This is especially true of the UK and Canada. Some nations like Madras, Malaya, and Australia have retained a robust military capability for their size. In short their absolute and especially comparative military strength has slipped since the Asia-Pacific War.

I think Lever is trying to stem the bleeding at this point. The Commonwealth military branches will be pointing to the threat from China for the main reason to be on high alert, because China has been not very subtle about the British linked countries and its goals to unite Asia under Technocracy ala GEACPS style. They already taken over Korea and Indochina, so what will happen if Technocracy take over Japan? Or South East Asia? The British are scared, but their hand are forced at this point.

If China launches the invasion of Asia, only the United States would stop their expansion by force at that rate. Since Pacifica is a state, if the Chinese try to attack there, they would probably trigger a Pearl Harbor style reaction.

Maybe I should start to do ship profiles.

 

[frustrated progressive]

Good question. On the whole Latin America has been better off than our TL. Thanks largely to a more positively involved USA and lesser amounts of Marxist agitation. Corruption is still an issue but again less than OTL. Two of the nations most improved from OTL are Mexico and Nicaragua which would be almost unrecognizable by someone from OTL.

Thank you.

 

[metastasis_d]

Good question. On the whole Latin America has been better off than our TL. Thanks largely to a more positively involved USA and lesser amounts of Marxist agitation. Corruption is still an issue but again less than OTL. Two of the nations most improved from OTL are Mexico and Nicaragua which would be almost unrecognizable by someone from OTL.

Yeah, that makes sense re: Nicaragua. Proximity to American soil means more economic interaction.

Good questions.

1) Verny is the old name for Almaty, Kazakhstan.

Got it; I thought that may be the case but I couldn't find "Verny" via Google.

2) It means that at least on paper the great powers agree not to send in boots on the ground. Other indirect forms of aid are theoretically allowed due to them not being explicitly mentioned. What would happen if these provisions were violated is hard to say.

It's that "at least on paper" distinction that is worrying...

3) Some wanted more support for Pasternak's government. The Socialists wanted a strict "hands off" policy.

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Got it; thanks for the clarification!

Hopefully gun debate is smarter than in OTL and there not be so much gun maniacs whose 2nd amendment is holier than Bible.

You wound me.

 

[Ryan]

You wound me.

obviously, he's got a gun.