I think his psychotic letter is more like Mein Kampf, but the scenario is more like the Zimmerman Telegram Incident
The Union Forever: A TL
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even if napoleon's plan does succeed, how the heck does he plan to hold on to his gains?
Napoleon that feind! 
Having such an in depth plan for world domination worked out is either insanity or genius, I haven't yet decided. However, the publication of said documents can very well lead to the downfall of the Napoleonic Empire, and perhaps the rise of a Constitutional Burbon Monarchy in post-war France, if the PRI Alliance wins? Some food for thought.
I eagerly await the next update.
Having such an in depth plan for world domination worked out is either insanity or genius, I haven't yet decided. However, the publication of said documents can very well lead to the downfall of the Napoleonic Empire, and perhaps the rise of a Constitutional Burbon Monarchy in post-war France, if the PRI Alliance wins? Some food for thought. I eagerly await the next update.
Looks like Napoleon IV is taking a lot of notes from his great-uncle.
I see the United Kingdom entering the war here, but the USA... wait and see.
I see the United Kingdom entering the war here, but the USA... wait and see.
Damn do i agree. The only thing missing is the whole anti-semetism. Of course,that could be considered with the complete anti-prussian and anti-russian attitude.
Talk about megalomania though. That is completely insane.
I love this combination of Mein Kampf and the Zimmerman telegram French style. Only a Napoleon would be that balsy.
It is called "The Union Forever", so the United States must surely play some kind of active role in world events instead of sitting on the sidelines and cheerleading.
Right? ...
Reminds me of Hitler's second book that identified the United State as the biggest long term threat(over the Soviet Union) and predicted Germany would had war against the United States in the 1980's.
Though, realizing this gave way his foreign plans, he order the manuscripts to be locked up.
Though, realizing this gave way his foreign plans, he order the manuscripts to be locked up.
Well, it doesn't say that the USA will join the inevitable War of the Eighth Coalition on the Coalition side.
But who knows?
Well, it doesn't say that the USA will join the inevitable War of the Eighth Coalition on the Coalition side.
But who knows?
good point
Hey Everyone,
I am enjoying all the comments since the last post. Please keep them coming. I would love to hear some speculation as to how the war would progress if.. 1) neither the UK or USA enter the war 2) the UK but not the USA enters the war 3) both the UK and USA enter the war. Thanks for the feedback, the next update is coming soon.
Cheers!
I am enjoying all the comments since the last post. Please keep them coming. I would love to hear some speculation as to how the war would progress if.. 1) neither the UK or USA enter the war 2) the UK but not the USA enters the war 3) both the UK and USA enter the war. Thanks for the feedback, the next update is coming soon.
Cheers!
I love this TL, in it's entirety. It's one of the few I actively follow.
I vote for number 3 because let's face it, I just wanna see Nappy get served on a silver platter while the more democratic powers laugh about the letters over dinner.
I vote for number 3 because let's face it, I just wanna see Nappy get served on a silver platter while the more democratic powers laugh about the letters over dinner.
1) In the event of no intervention from the UK or the US, things remain relatively up in the air. It is clear at this point that the balance is tipped in the Entente's favor and Prussia is under heavy pressure from the south and from the west, with help from Russia only just beginning to arrive. Things could go either way at this point depending on the decisions of the commanders on both sides. If there is no intervention, however, I believe we are more likely to see an Entente victory.
2) If in the extremely unlikely event that the UK enters the war as an Entente member, Prussia and Russia are ****** in the ***.
In the more likely event that the UK joins the war on the side of the Coalition, things will look much brighter for them. The Royal Navy will challenge the French fleet, perhaps we will see a British expeditionary force land in Prussia, and the British empire will be giving it everything they've got. While even the UK's entry doesn't necessarily gaurantee a win for the Coalition, it makes the idea much easier to envision.
3) If the UK AND the US join the war on the side of the Coalition, France is ****** in the ***.
Not only will they face most of what I speculated in the second scenario, Napoleon will also have to deal with an enemy that he cannot touch in any significantly damaging way. The French canal will be captured and put out of use, their south american allies will be in trouble, and, to top it all off, the US Army will be on its way to Europe faster than the French can soil their trousers. This scenario gaurantees a coalition victory, as the French will be hard pressed to fight Prussia, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States all at once. US Army men will be singing "The Battle Cry of Freedom" in the streets of Paris in no time.
This is the scenario I hope to see.
I have a good feeling that Napoleon IV's days as Emperor are almost through, and that the Second French Empire has finally entered its twilight that is almost forty years overdue.
Hope I don't jinx it
2) If in the extremely unlikely event that the UK enters the war as an Entente member, Prussia and Russia are ****** in the ***.
In the more likely event that the UK joins the war on the side of the Coalition, things will look much brighter for them. The Royal Navy will challenge the French fleet, perhaps we will see a British expeditionary force land in Prussia, and the British empire will be giving it everything they've got. While even the UK's entry doesn't necessarily gaurantee a win for the Coalition, it makes the idea much easier to envision.
3) If the UK AND the US join the war on the side of the Coalition, France is ****** in the ***.
Not only will they face most of what I speculated in the second scenario, Napoleon will also have to deal with an enemy that he cannot touch in any significantly damaging way. The French canal will be captured and put out of use, their south american allies will be in trouble, and, to top it all off, the US Army will be on its way to Europe faster than the French can soil their trousers. This scenario gaurantees a coalition victory, as the French will be hard pressed to fight Prussia, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States all at once. US Army men will be singing "The Battle Cry of Freedom" in the streets of Paris in no time.
This is the scenario I hope to see.
I have a good feeling that Napoleon IV's days as Emperor are almost through, and that the Second French Empire has finally entered its twilight that is almost forty years overdue.
Hope I don't jinx it
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Yeah seriously the UK has to declare war now. And with the sinking of a crusie liner and If I remember correctly HUNDREDS of American deaths America will probably not be far behind. My theory is that the American forces build up in the UK and landin Hamburg. Supporting Prussia and eentually leading to an US-UK-Pr-Ru-Italy victory.
I think the UK will soon enter the war on the Coalition's side (can they bring Canada in too?), while the US might need some bigger trigger event to be brought in - but then again, the public's already quite anti-France at this point, so that might not be needed.
Just my two cents.
Marc A
Just my two cents.
Marc A
More likely a bigger trigger. One like unrestricted submarine warfare (which France shouldn't have had to use quite yet). Though when your opponent has a larger surface fleet...say, the UK...
Japan/UK/US
This is premised on the UK going to war on the side of the Prussian and Russians. Could we see a version of the Japanese and Britain being neutral to each other but the US being held in check by the UK as sort of a "Play nice" threat to the Japanese in the Pacific? With the UK/Japanese treaty still in effect they are not fighting one another, but if the US enters the war the US might see an opportunity in the area to get some territory. This might even be a way for the British to have a we didn't attack you the Americans did excuse.
This is premised on the UK going to war on the side of the Prussian and Russians. Could we see a version of the Japanese and Britain being neutral to each other but the US being held in check by the UK as sort of a "Play nice" threat to the Japanese in the Pacific? With the UK/Japanese treaty still in effect they are not fighting one another, but if the US enters the war the US might see an opportunity in the area to get some territory. This might even be a way for the British to have a we didn't attack you the Americans did excuse.
BUMP you need to update this soon you can't just give something so exciting and make us wait to see what happens