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metastasis_d

Nice update. I wonder what affect the affair will have on the pace of homosexual rights ITTL.

The move of the World Fair is unsurprising.

Great news in Liberia, and not so great in the Middle East, assuming that's foreshadowing.

Looks like the IEF will fall apart rather quickly.
HongCanucker said:
Nice update. Which American possessions make up the state of Pacifica? I'm definitely sure Samoa is one of them.
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American Samoa, Regular Samoa, All 3 Micronesian nations from OTL, The Marianas Islands, and Wallis & Futuna. Possibly the OTL uninhabited outlying islands.
 
metastasis_d

metastasis_d

Also, a 56 star flag, taken from this site.

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Lalli

Scandal with Swedish prince is intresting. That has something affect for homosexuality.

Nice to see that Liberia is changes as stable democracy.
 
Utgard96

Utgard96

Mac Gregor said:
In March, the Danish tabloid Gnist uncovered a long-term homosexual affair between Crown Prince Konrad of Sweden and his driver Adolf Karlsson. The scandal generated a firestorm of controversy across Europe and the Americas concerning homosexuality. Eventually the Swedish government pressured Konrad to step down from the line of succession. Konrad retained the title Duke of Gotland where he lived, along with Adolf Karlsson, for the rest of his life.
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Konrad is a Swedish name (at times), but it doesn't really sound that royal to me. If we're looking at a surviving House Bernadotte here (anything else would be borderline ASB given the PoD), he probably would be named something like Karl, or Oscar, or Gustaf.
 

Novelty

Ares96 said:
Konrad is a Swedish name (at times), but it doesn't really sound that royal to me. If we're looking at a surviving House Bernadotte here (anything else would be borderline ASB given the PoD), he probably would be named something like Karl, or Oscar, or Gustaf.
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Is it Sweden that has a rule of alternating the names of kings so that one is always Karl, and the next one in line is Christian? Or is that Some other place?
 
Utgard96

Utgard96

Novelty said:
Is it Sweden that has a rule of alternating the names of kings so that one is always Karl, and the next one in line is Christian? Or is that Some other place?
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That's Denmark. And it's every other king named Frederik, and every other Christian. This was changed a bit when there was a queen on the throne, of course, but it would seem as though she counts as a Christian since both her father and son are named Frederik.
 

naraht

Ares96 said:
That's Denmark. And it's every other king named Frederik, and every other Christian. This was changed a bit when there was a queen on the throne, of course, but it would seem as though she counts as a Christian since both her father and son are named Frederik.
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Jeesh, and I thought the British had a small number of acceptable royal names.
 

Mac Gregor

Ares96 said:
Konrad is a Swedish name (at times), but it doesn't really sound that royal to me. If we're looking at a surviving House Bernadotte here (anything else would be borderline ASB given the PoD), he probably would be named something like Karl, or Oscar, or Gustaf.
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Is Sweden like Britain in that its monarchs take a name to rule under? So if Konrad had ascended to the thrown he would reign as King Oscar (insert number here)?
 
Utgard96

Utgard96

Mac Gregor said:
Is Sweden like Britain in that its monarchs take a name to rule under? So if Konrad had ascended to the thrown he would reign as King Oscar (insert number here)?
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Not generally - people do have loads of names, but if they have a first name that is usually the name they will reign as.
 

Mac Gregor

Ares96 said:
Not generally - people do have loads of names, but if they have a first name that is usually the name they will reign as.
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I was thinking this for Sweden's monarchs....

Charles XV (1859-1872)
Oscar II (1872-1908)
Gustaf V (1908-1951)
Oscar III (1951- )

Crown Prince Konrad (Oscar Konrad Ludwig) was King Oscar III's second son after his first born Karl Gustaf Adolf died in a hunting accident in 1966. Therefore he was still known by his given name of Konrad.

What do you think?
 

Mac Gregor

HongCanucker said:
Nice update. Which American possessions make up the state of Pacifica? I'm definitely sure Samoa is one of them.
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metastasis_d said:
Nice update. I wonder what affect the affair will have on the pace of homosexual rights ITTL.

The move of the World Fair is unsurprising.

Great news in Liberia, and not so great in the Middle East, assuming that's foreshadowing.

Looks like the IEF will fall apart rather quickly.


American Samoa, Regular Samoa, All 3 Micronesian nations from OTL, The Marianas Islands, and Wallis & Futuna. Possibly the OTL uninhabited outlying islands.
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The State of Pacifica consists of OTL's American Samoa, the Independent State of Samoa, French Polynesia, Wallis and Futuna.

Most of America's remaining western Pacific processions are part of the Territory of Micronesia.


What do y'all think of the flag below for Pacifica?

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metastasis_d

metastasis_d

Mac Gregor said:
The State of Pacifica consists of OTL's American Samoa, the Independent State of Samoa, French Polynesia, Wallis and Futuna.

Most of America's remaining western Pacific processions are part of the Territory of Micronesia.


What do y'all think of the flag below for Pacifica?
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Don't know how I forgot French Polynesia, and duly noted on Micronesia. Too bad; Micronesia would make their population higher than Wyoming!

Cool flag. Very seaworthy. :D
 

Luminous

Good flag for Pacifica. Are the Samoans still annoyed about being lumped in with all of Polynesia, though? I wouldn't be surprised if there was an independent statehood bid for them, perhaps along with Wallis & Futuna. It'd be after the war, most certainly.

Also, as the designs for the later states are certainly more creative, do the older states have any thoughts about changing their flags? (especially the ones that still have the seals for flags, not to mention the few that went from designs to seals)

Mac Gregor said:
Oh, does anybody have any ideas for flags for the Republic of Sindh or the Republic of the Punjab?
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Got two for Punjab. Can't think of anything decent for Sindh, honestly. See if either of these are to your taste.

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Lalli

I haven't ever seen blue on flag of Islamic country or it not be very common color. And what sign there is on left?
 
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