Erm, what?
USA owns it now and from what I remember Maine gained the land
The Union Forever: A TL
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USA owns it now and from what I remember Maine gained the land
Apologies for arriving late to the latest update's discussion, but I wanna say how good it was first of all (especially since the State troops of the Caribe managed to make a name for themselves in storming Venezuela's beaches and taking that Corporatist annoyance out of commission). Secondly, regarding how Japan makes out post-war, I'm not sure a WWII level of punitiveness is warranted but I DO wanna see a no-BS invasion of Japan instead of settling on a white peace...that way, hopefully the fight is finally settled and we can put this Fist Party nonsense behind us (Us = the world, of course). I'm not keen on seeing the Commonwealth make more land grabs any more than the Chinese Technate, FWIW, although in the latter's case I can see that being a non-negotiable sticking point for the after-war era.
The Orthodox Council and the nations that fall within its sphere of influence are increasingly worried about the Technate's rise, but they are also glad to see Japan getting humbled.
There is indeed some Russification in Central Asia but not to the extent of OTL. In recent years Central Asia has seen the rise of a pan-Turkic/Muslim identity that wants greater autonomy from St. Petersburg.
Erm, what?
edudogel is right. St. Pierre and Miquelon were ceded to the United States after the Great War and are currently a county of Maine. Roughly a third of the islands French population left for France or Quebec after the war. Since then a number of English speaking settlers have moved there and the population recorded during the 1970 census was 7,385. The islands have a relatively profitable tourism and fishing industry and are host to a small Coast Guard station. As in OTL there is some disagreement about territorial waters with Canada but everyone manages to get along well enough.
It'll be interesting to see how that pans out. If the local governments are seeking autonomy, they might be okay staying part of the IEF, but are there any other more radical nationalist movements?
Okay, MacG, thanks for the info. I do have one question, however: does this county observe the Atlantic, or Newfoundland, time zone(I assumed that Eastern Time would be way too impractical, given to it's far-flung location)?
There definitely are those wanting full independence. However, there is more of a push for a united Greater Turkistan than for separate ethnic states.
Good question. That gets me thinking that we need a map of time zones for the TL. Any takers?
I think that St. Pierre County would fall in to what we in OTL call the Atlantic Time Zone joining the other U.S. states of Puerto Rico, Santo Domingo, and Guadeloupe and Martinique.
A Greater Turkistan state would be pretty cool. A landlocked juggernaut!
The Tajiks won't be happy about that, I imagine.
However, if there is a movement towards that, would they ones that go for independence want to join with Uighuristan in order to unite the various Tartaries? That probably will provoke China. They Chinese certainly don't want it to slip farther away.
Also, who are the ones dominating the push? The southern Uzbeks and Turkmeni, or the northern Kazakhs, or another group? Or is it one of the states of the region that is aiming for a union?
The idea does enjoy less support amongst Tajiks being a non-Turkish group, however many Tajik's are starting to buy into this Central Asian/Muslim identity.
There have been some calls for Uighuristan to join any future Pan-Turkic State but this would put them at odd's against China who still claims Uighuristan as their own.
No one group dominates the move for an independent united Central Asian state, but Uzbeks who are the largest ethnic group seem to be the most in favor.
A question I have regarding a Greater Turkestan is how would language issues be handled?
They migt use Turkish, Persian, Russian, English, Arabic, or even Chinese as a lingua fraca. Everyone would probably be at least bilingual, with the more educated speaking 3 or more languages.
With IEF having so many non-Russian speaking parts, the US having so many Spanish and French parts, China having hegemony in SE Asia, India being balkanized, and European nations still holding onto African colonies, polylinguism will be much more prominent in this world.
This, pretty much. I'd argue that Russian would be the one chosen, as it is dissimilar to the native languages and it is already in use by a large portion of the population. If they are especially religious, they might choose Arabic instead, but I doubt it would happen. Turkish would be too similar to some of their languages.
However, you could get away with Persian or Chinese... The IEF will be especially unhappy if that's the case. How far will the IEF go to keep the United Tartary? Also, where are their rockets launched from? At Baikonur (or its equivalent)?
All very interesting. So the choices could be anything from Turkish, Persian, Russian, English, Arabic, or Chinese. Of these I personally think that Russian or Turkish is the most likely to be used. Many already speak Russian but an independent Tartary may not want to use the language of their former masters. Turkish would be good for historic reasons, but I doubt many Central Asians speak modern Turkish. Perhaps they could revive Old Turkic or create a new hybrid Turkish language? Like metastasis_d said, I think polylinguism will be common.
The IEF conducts most of its space launches from Peter IV Imperial Cosmodrome located 200 miles north of the city of Aulie-Ata (OTL's Taraz) in Kazahkiya.