The Union Forever: A TL
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wow, I feel bad for Italy in this war.
Talk about being between a rock and a hard place
Should be interesting to see how fast they get knocked out of the war (or will they?)
Talk about being between a rock and a hard place
Should be interesting to see how fast they get knocked out of the war (or will they?)
And so the War begins! I'm curious to see how this effects American politics. Will RTL pull an FDR and go for a third term in office? Or will the Democrats come to power? (Seems rather unlikely, given the mid-term elections weren't at all a drastic change) Perhaps, if RTL does seek a third term, we'll see an eariler version of the 22nd Amendment, or perhaps we will not see anything like it at all, giving presidents the ability to run for thrid and fourth terms regularly. I look foward to more.
Two things that come to mind:
Prussia isn't facing the two front war we're used to (against France and Russia, in both world wars), but it's facing opposition from the west and south (from France and the SGF/Austria). On the other hand, Austria is fighting to the northwest and northeast (against Prussia and Russia).
Also, will this make RTL surpass his father in terms of legacy?
Prussia isn't facing the two front war we're used to (against France and Russia, in both world wars), but it's facing opposition from the west and south (from France and the SGF/Austria). On the other hand, Austria is fighting to the northwest and northeast (against Prussia and Russia).
Also, will this make RTL surpass his father in terms of legacy?
Good question. I guess it all depends on which side the US enters the war on, or if RTL is able to maintain neutrality and America can wait out the storm. I think the US will maintain neutrality until it's given a reason to go in that it can't refuse. Just look at the UK. If they don't enter the war, then the US probably won't jump in either. The US will also probably end up joining whichever side the UK chooses as well, especially since they have such good relations so far. This is all just speculation on my part, I could be wrong about everything.
Personally, I think the political/events in East Asia may determine what role the US may play. Though, I'll have to take closer look the situation there to be sure.
As least, Russia may have issues in the Far East since both Japan and France are a major power in the Pacific. The US is like the only one that could really change the equation there. Britain would be too busy in the West, but I could be mistaken.
As least, Russia may have issues in the Far East since both Japan and France are a major power in the Pacific. The US is like the only one that could really change the equation there. Britain would be too busy in the West, but I could be mistaken.
In the TL, Napoleon IV married Gisela Louise Marie, the daughter of former Austrian Emperor Franz Joseph I and the niece of the current Emperor of Austria-Hungry Maximilian I, in 1876.
1870's Photograph of Gisela Louise Marie
Empress of the French
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Yeah, but Napoleon III's wife, Eugénie de Montijo, was "Empress Consort of the French" so shouldn't Napoleon IV's wife be the same?
Ok, I guess you are right. Even though they are “consorts” that isn't included in their official title. Empress of the French it is.
Both Austria and Prussia are, in essence, fighting one, REALLY LONG front. A really long front which, neglecting terrain and fortifications, favors maneuver over static, trench warfare. So it seems likely that there won't be a Western Front analog.
After lots of delays, I will get to working on a map.
Edit: @MacGregor: I can easily understand why Prussia has little to no Colonies, but why not Italy? They haven't really had anything that would stop them from gaining Colonies. That and the map of Africa looks boring with France owning half of it.
Edit: @MacGregor: I can easily understand why Prussia has little to no Colonies, but why not Italy? They haven't really had anything that would stop them from gaining Colonies. That and the map of Africa looks boring with France owning half of it.
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Yeah. Give Italy Tunisia, and/or Libya (or parts of it).After lots of delays, I will get to working on a map.
Edit: @MacGregor: I can easily understand why Prussia has little to no Colonies, but why not Italy? They haven't really had anything that would stop them from gaining Colonies. That and the map of Africa looks boring with France owning half of it.
While I admit I am happy to have others agreeing with me, I will only change anything when MacGregor tells me to. Although I was thinking of having Italy take Ethiopia and Italian Somaliland (Eritrea is optional). In OTL Italy didn't take Libya until 1912 (although they were given the right to take it at the Congress of Berlin).
Here is the map. I messed around with Nigeria a bit just to make some of the borders look... different.
If anyone has any problems with it, let me know.
If anyone has any problems with it, let me know.
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Never underestimate AH.com's innate ability to scrutinize maps for any possible errors. Fixed as of now.
If there's an African territory that should be given to Italy, it'd be Tunisia. Tunisia, with an Italian minority, was a major colonial focus of Italy (once the French took it, they went and took Libya instead).
But anyway, its irrelevant considering the state of the world. Although, if the Entente loses, Tunisia might be something which Italy would gain (Nice and Savoy aren't particularly strong claims at all, considering historical culture and language, but Italy will take a chunk out of Austria).
EDIT: Now that I think about it, the Italians aren't likely to get anything from a war, even with a victory.
Because of this man:
Seriously, MacGregor, can you give the Italians a CnC that is halfway competent (well, make them half-way competent overall)? Like, someone who doesn't shoot the officers of retreating units, institutes decimation, and orders massive frontal attacks with infantry against the same well-fortified emplacements ON TOP OF MOUNTAINS (once aforementioned techniques failed on the plains of Flanders) once they failed? Twelve times? And then gets promoted to Marshal for it?
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