Looks great! The only things I see are that as mentioned it is the Orthodox Council and that Tuva, although totally subservent to Russia, is not a memeber. Also, East timor is still colored for Portugal. Thanks so much for the map!
The Union Forever: A TL
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Looks great! The only things I see are that as mentioned it is the Orthodox Council and that Tuva, although totally subservent to Russia, is not a memeber. Also, East timor is still colored for Portugal. Thanks so much for the map!
1. Paraguay seems small because it did not gain the Gran Chaco region that it did in OTL in the 1930s. ITTL Bolivia faces down Paraguay and keeps the region.
2. The Kingdom of Siam seems large because it has retained territory that in OTL was lost to the French in the 1890s.
3. ITTL Tuva becomes independent after the Russian Empire pried it away from the Qing dynasty. It has since been technically independent but dominated by the Russians who honestly view it as two small to be worth annexing outright.
4. Muscat and Oman maintains very close ties with Britain but is and always has been independent of European colonialism.
5. Botswana and Zimbabwe, known as Bechuanaland and Matabeleland ITTL joined the Dominion of South Africa in the 1930s and 1940s.
2. The Kingdom of Siam seems large because it has retained territory that in OTL was lost to the French in the 1890s.
3. ITTL Tuva becomes independent after the Russian Empire pried it away from the Qing dynasty. It has since been technically independent but dominated by the Russians who honestly view it as two small to be worth annexing outright.
4. Muscat and Oman maintains very close ties with Britain but is and always has been independent of European colonialism.
5. Botswana and Zimbabwe, known as Bechuanaland and Matabeleland ITTL joined the Dominion of South Africa in the 1930s and 1940s.
Mozambique is still colony of Portugal so it even can't. And hardly it has much reason even join for this. Perhaps it could be ally of UK, but firstly Mozambique should become independence.
About Ethiopia I can't say anything. What kind of country it is anyway? And it is probably very dependent on British Empire.
I hope the African colonies gain independence peacefully and form a grand African Union which then gains superpower status and can into space.
1. So Bolivia got all of Gran Chaco? In OTL didn't Paraguay have some territory before the Chaco War or did that get butterflied away?
2. I get the new borders by Indochina, but shouldn't Burma still have that strip of land down the Kra Isthmus?
3. So Tuva is part of Russia in all but name. Is Tuva recognized internationally or just by Russia?
4. Got it
5. Is this a reason why South Africa is less racist ITTL?
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1. Not sure, but it should be the pre Chaco War border from OTL.
2. hmm, after looking a Wikipedia they might have. Anybody got any ideas how Siam could recover this area?
3. Most recognize it but don't bother establishing embassies.
5. Through a slightly different war Boer War, the more racist elements of the Afrikaners are prevented from gaining power in the post war environment.
1. This is a map of South America you posted a while back for the 1930s. It shows Paraguay and Bolivia as splitting the Chaco region between them. You said that in 1930 Bolivia stands down Paraguay and keeps the Chaco. Are they keeping these borders or did they get all of the Chaco region?
2. Not sure. I just don't see Britain giving it back and a war between UK and Siam that results in Siamese victory seems highly unlikely. Any other ways?
3. Got it
5. How so?
Alright guys, I fixed the Ecuadorian and Mesopotamian borders on my three Union Forever maps which I posted on page 148 by simply re-uploading them on their original posts. 
Here they are on this page so people notice them.
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Heres an Alliances map I've been working on ironically at the same time as others were. Mines very similar, except a bit more detailed.
Red: British Commonwealth
Darkest Red: Britain proper
Lighter Red: British Colonies
Lightest Red: British Dominions
Green: Turin Pact
Light Green: Turin Pact colonies
Blue: Association of European States
Light Blue: AES colonies
Purple: Orthodox Union
Light Purple: Russian puppet states not officially in the OU
Orange: League of American Republics
White: Non-aligned nations
Mines very similar, except a bit more detailed. Red: British Commonwealth
Darkest Red: Britain proper
Lighter Red: British Colonies
Lightest Red: British Dominions
Green: Turin Pact
Light Green: Turin Pact colonies
Blue: Association of European States
Light Blue: AES colonies
Purple: Orthodox Union
Light Purple: Russian puppet states not officially in the OU
Orange: League of American Republics
White: Non-aligned nations
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Just a couple of quibbles on the map. As mentioned earlier,
and should Spain have OTL Equatorial Guinea or no? I really have no idea. Previous maps gave it to Germany, as part of Cameroon, but I'm not sure that should be the case.
Good question. Spain get that area on 1850's and was claiming even earlier so probably there should be Spanish Guinea. I don't remember talk about that anything.
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Yes they did, at one point they had a bomb in Algeria while certain officers were attempting a coup that could have been captured
Good question concerning Equatorial Guinea. Although not specfically mentioned, Spain sold Equatorial Guinea (including Bioko) to Imperial France in 1879 the same time they sold the Philippines.
1. That map in not very accurate. Paraguay never had a very good hold on the Chaco region.
2. I will look into it. However, ITTL the area will continue to belong to Siam.
5. There is no one specific POD I can point to but , basically the non Afrikaner whites ITTL make smarter political decisions that keep the more racist Afrikaner elements from coming to power as they did in OTL's 1948 elections. Including other territories into TTL’s South Africa helped this by diluting Afrikaner numbers.