The Twin Vipers: A TL of the Berlin-Moscow Axis

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9/41-10/41
On Road to India, September 1941

The capture of the southern Iranian city of Shiraz by Chuikov’s 19th Army was one of the greatest victories won by either side in the war so far. The recently raised 5th Indian Army had outnumbered Chuikov’s force nearly 3:2 at more than 270,000 men, and had been tasked with pushing Chuikov back to Tehran. Owing to the limited number of roads in central Iran, Chuikov had suspected that the 5th Indian would simply try to push him north, and ordered his forces to retreat. He had left his tank divisions (equipped with a mix of T-34s and BT-5s) behind on another road, hoping to catch the Indians in a trap. The plan worked perfectly, and the 5th Indian was encircled and surrendered.

With the main Allied force in Iran destroyed as a fighting force, Chuikov seized the oil wells on the Persian Gulf coast, although British sabotage meant that they were of no use to the USSR. Chuikov had no intention of stopping there, and looked to Zhukov’s reinforced 2nd Caucasus Front to help. 2nd Caucasus was still based in northern Iraq, facing Wavell’s 4th Indian Army, and Chuikov wanted Wavell out of the picture so that 19th Army’s flank could be secure. At Chuikov’s request (and despite Zhukov being the superior officer), Zhukov launched a probing offensive in late August against the 4th Indian to ensure they would not move against Chuikov.

His flank secure, Chuikov turned the bulk of his forces east, threatening the crown jewel of the British Empire: India. Although he knew that 19th Army was nowhere near strong enough to actually conquer India, and much too far away from the USSR to be both expanded and fully supplied (even as things were, 19th Army’s logistics were terrible), he hoped to sufficiently spook the British into pulling forces from the Western Front by forcing them to defend India against either the Red Army or a communist revolt (despite the belief of the Soviet leadership, few Indians had communist sympathies and were prepared to support the British if it would keep them out of Stalin’s orbit). 19th Army would halt in November at the port city of Bandar-e-Abbas.

Fuhrerschlacht, September 1941

Hitler had been shocked into a two day near-silence when he heard of the American declaration of war against Germany. Having spent the time since 1936 preparing to fight a war that would not bog down like World War I, he had instead ended up in a conflict disturbingly similar to the one that he had personally fought in. The American entry into World War I had been a large part of the reason Germany had lost the last conflict, and if that war was anything to go by, Germany had at best twelve to eighteen months before the weight of American production fell on them like a 3000 pound hammer falling from the sky.

Turning to World War I for inspiration, Hitler directed OKW to develop a plan for an immediate breakthrough offensive to parallel the Kaiserschlacht of Spring 1918. Ludendorff’s greatest failure had lay in a lack of defined objectives, Hitler was determined not to make the same mistake twice. OKW eventually proposed three plans: one aimed at the British and the Channel Ports, and two aimed at Paris. The first of these, codenamed ‘Thor’, called on Army Group B to advance along a broad front to break through the Scheldt line wherever it was most lightly defended, with Hoth’s Panzers in reserve to be committed wherever the breakthrough was achieved to smash through the remaining Allied positions in Belgium and knock the British out of France. The second, codenamed ‘Heimdall’, involved a frontal assault on Paris supported by the Gustav cannon, but was quickly abandoned as it was mostly a repeat of the failed June offensive and called on too much of the already overstretched Army Group A’s reserves.

Instead, Operation ‘Ragnarok’ was chosen. Developed by General Erich von Manstein, Ragnarok called for the best divisions of Army Groups B and C to be concentrated under Army Group A south of Reims in a massive striking column. Striking southeast towards Troyes, Manstein hoped to confuse the Allies, who would be expecting an offensive towards the Channel Ports, Amiens or Paris. Instead, he would make the Allies believe that he was trying to surround the Maginot Line, intending to make them overcommit to that front, before turning to the west, outflanking the French on the Marne and opening the way for Paris to be taken. Hitler approved and ordered the offensive be ready for the 27th of September.

The operation began with an artillery barrage that included the use of 40 Katyusha rocket launchers (given by Stalin in exchange for prototypes and plans to the Fw 190 fighter), immediately panicking the French troops who were only aware of this weapon from news reports about the war in Manchukuo and Korea. The German infantry assault tore through a shell-shocked enemy line, and within a day most of the French trenches in front of Troyes had been taken. Panzers swarmed into the gap left behind, while French General Conde (commander of the 3rd Army) was forced to call a retreat.

The Germans made it to Troyes without major loss, only to find that General Huntziger of the French 2nd Army had transferred forces from the Marne to protect Paris from the east. Bock ordered his forces to attempt another breakthrough, which initially showed signs of promise but fell apart near Sens, but the transfer of more French tanks and increasing Allied air superiority caused Hitler to call an end to the attack. Another substantial chunk had been torn out of France, but with Paris fortified to become a great citadel and the arrival of winter not far off, Germany’s prospects for victory looked to be growing slimmer by the day.

Allies Meet in Washington, October 1941

No less than twelve hours after the Americans entered the war, Winston Churchill was already planning on meeting with Roosevelt to discuss the future of the war. Although he had intended it as a meeting between just those two and possibly Daladier, Roosevelt believed that the Allies’ interests would be best served if all five major Allied nations were present, and invitations were extended to the leadership of Nationalist China and Japan.

From the beginning of the conference, Churchill was stressing the need to send as many men and as much equipment as possible to the Western Front, to ensure that the Allies maintained their position on the continent (a cross-Channel invasion against the entire German Army was deemed to be impossible if France was knocked out of the fight).

The Chinese, who were not actively fighting either Germany or the USSR, instead sought military advisors from the US to better train and lead Nationalist forces against Mao. Roosevelt agreed, sending Joe Stilwell, a distinguished officer who was fluent in Chinese and was known for his concern about the average soldier – a trait that would make him popular among the Chinese peasants that served Chiang Kai-Shek.

Japan’s priority at the conference was securing an agreement from the other Allies to ensure that they could recover Manchukuo at the end of the war, rather than see it returned to China. Churchill and Daladier were determined to keep the goodwill of the Japanese that they so painstakingly recovered in the last two years, but Roosevelt did not want to be seen betraying his Chinese allies, while Chiang Kai-Shek fiercely resisted any handovers to Japan.

Technology Exchange, October 1941

Towards the end of the conference, Churchill suggested that the British and American scientific research into “Tube Alloys” be combined. Although little progress had been made on either project so far, owing to scientists debating about the feasibility, much less the construction, of a possible uranium-based weapon, there was considerable concern that either the Germans (despite Hitler’s dislike of “Jewish physics”) or Soviets would create such a weapon first. Roosevelt, having already been reminded how precarious the situation in Europe remained, was quick to agree, forming the Allied Committee of Exploration into Tube Alloy Research, the British misnomer being kept as intelligence reports suggested that the Germans believed it to mean something about naval guns.

But the Allies were not the only ones sharing their technological secrets. Although Hitler had been hesitant to support his Soviet ally in the early stages of the war, by 1941 he had decided that the only way Germany could win the war was if the Soviets were also doing the maximum possible damage to the Allied cause, even if that meant exchanging technological secrets. In July 1941, he had offered Stalin plans to the Fw 190 fighter (which was just entering production) in exchange for some Katyusha rocket launchers, which had acquired a fearsome reputation from their use in Korea and the Middle East. Most of these were then used on the Western Front, although some were retained by German industry to be reverse engineered and then mass-produced by Krupp, with the German variant entering front-line use in early 1942.

A much more significant exchange occurred in November, when Germany offered Stalin plans for both the Jumo 004 jet engine and the A4 missile. Hitler had cancelled the A4 project in previous months after deciding that it was “nothing more than an expensive artillery shell” that couldn’t hit any major European targets other than those already in artillery range (the front lines being too far from London for launch sites to be established). The Jumo 004 on the other hand, was still in development and testing, but looked to be Germany’s most promising turbojet engine, which Messerschmitt was planning on incorporating into an advanced fighter design once the engineering difficulties were worked out. Stalin, who did not have any major breakthrough technologies to match the turbojet, offered Hitler plans to the best Soviet tanks currently in service and information about the planned successor to the T-34. Some of these would eventually be used in the creation of the ‘Wolf’ tank.

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Has Stalin be sharing intel from his spies in the US and Britain? Will he share what he learns about the Allies Nuclear weapons research with Hitler? :eek:
 
Has Stalin be sharing intel from his spies in the US and Britain? Will he share what he learns about the Allies Nuclear weapons research with Hitler? :eek:

With both the US and UK plus France being far more paranoid about communists ITTL its likely that none of Soviets spies get as high up as they did OTL
 
With both the US and UK plus France being far more paranoid about communists ITTL its likely that none of Soviets spies get as high up as they did OTL
What about the scientist that were communist that worked on the Manhattan Project? They weren't Russian or even foreigners in some cases.
Traitors are harder to catch than spies.
 
What about the scientist that were communist that worked on the Manhattan Project? They weren't Russian or even foreigners in some cases.
Traitors are harder to catch than spies.

The difference between socialist and communist should matter,especially with Stalin both an event and allied to Hitler. My impression is that at least some of the useful idiots were naive about stalin and the USER because of their opposition to the fascists (as Orwell said, he was a premature anti fascist in Spain.) And of course socialists like Einstein have no love for the nazis....
 
What about the scientist that were communist that worked on the Manhattan Project? They weren't Russian or even foreigners in some cases.
Traitors are harder to catch than spies.

They are communists in a super secret bomb project that may or may not be used against the USSR no way they're getting anywhere near as much leeway or data access as they did OTL. Any communist or suspected communist will be getting the boot from the project
 
Has Stalin be sharing intel from his spies in the US and Britain? Will he share what he learns about the Allies Nuclear weapons research with Hitler? :eek:
Stalin shares what he feels like, and nothing more. Usually this means stuff that can't be used against the USSR. Of course the German nuclear project is a bit of a joke so it won't matter either way unless the war goes on until like 1960 (which it won't!).

With both the US and UK plus France being far more paranoid about communists ITTL its likely that none of Soviets spies get as high up as they did OTL
What about the scientist that were communist that worked on the Manhattan Project? They weren't Russian or even foreigners in some cases.
Traitors are harder to catch than spies.
The difference between socialist and communist should matter,especially with Stalin both an event and allied to Hitler. My impression is that at least some of the useful idiots were naive about stalin and the USER because of their opposition to the fascists (as Orwell said, he was a premature anti fascist in Spain.) And of course socialists like Einstein have no love for the nazis....
They are communists in a super secret bomb project that may or may not be used against the USSR no way they're getting anywhere near as much leeway or data access as they did OTL. Any communist or suspected communist will be getting the boot from the project

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Fuchs

The top Soviet spy managed to be both German and communist IOTL. No chance he gets through security (honestly he would have been kept under arrest in the UK - he was interned in 1939 IOTL and with an enemy USSR there's no good reason to release him). Others do get through, Soviet espionage was pretty darn good, but they don't have near the chance to reach the top levels of the project that they did IOTL.

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What the status of Ultra and Enigma ITTL?

And here I was looking for something to fill the winter of 41/42 with! :cool: (Other than "random battle in China", "more 'not much' happens in France", "Stalin gets paranoid or shoots someone" or just skipping over 3 months)

I had been thinking of leaving a short comment like I have to previous posts on the thread, but Enigma's interesting enough that I'll give it a section in my next update instead.


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Having read a giant ass KGB book about all the Soviet spies in both the UK and America, that were mostly disillusioned intelligentsia, thrill seekers, those yearning for freedom from the establishment/status quo, or dedicated international communists, I believe the NKVD spying operation in the West is going to collapse overnight with the fact Hitler and Stalin are actually fighting together.

The simple announcement of the Molotov—Ribbentrop Pact very nearly destroyed the entire NKVD spying operation because their spies were disgusted at the fact that Stalin signed a treaty with the fascist Hitlerites when he should be bulwark against fascism. Of course Barbarossa pretty much changed all their minds tho.

ITL, the fact that the Nazis and Soviets are fighting together in the Axis will mean the vast majority of all Soviet spies in the West will either stop communicating with their NKVD handlers, defect, and maybe one or two commits suicide sometime during the war if say the Soviets help the Nazis with the holocaust.

I reckon only a couple low level spies with not a lot of good intelligence or high positions will be all that the Soviets have left, simply because they are in it for the money and not the ideological reasons.
 
11/41-2/42
The Need to Fight Back, November 1941

In late 1941, the war in Europe was entering its third year. In that time, Germany had launched four major offensives against France, while the French had not undertaken any great actions against the Germans. While defensive tactics were sound militarily, especially when the French Army was smaller than the German (and roughly equal when the British were included), politically they were less attractive, and Daladier was under pressure to do something other than wait behind the Maginot Line.

The ending of Operation Ragnarok in October 1941 gave Daladier the opportunity he had been waiting for: a chance to hit back at the Germans while avoiding the best of their entrenched positions, and the heavy casualties that would inevitably follow. Manstein and von Bock had carved another bulge out of the line southeast of Paris, with approximately one third of the bulge opposed by Huntziger’s 2nd Army and the other two thirds by Conde’s 3rd Army further east. With the bulk of their local strength still engaged in battle against Huntziger, the German flank looked weak.

Daladier asked Conde if the situation on the ground was suitable for an offensive, and when Conde responded positively, the order was given to advance. German forces in the area had dug basic trenches, but these were quickly swept past by the French, who were determined to kick the invaders out of their country for good. Troyes, which had been 50km behind the frontline on November 1st, was liberated after six days of offensive action, the first major French city to tear down the swastika in the whole war.

The local collapse of the German army should have yielded the French a major victory, but disputes between the French army commanders gave Bock the time he needed to recover. Conde had wanted to use Huntziger’s 2nd Army to launch a pincer attack on the German salient (which included the majority of the Panzer divisions), but Huntziger was reluctant to move from his current lines lest the Germans make another attempt at Paris. Meanwhile Bourret, commander of the French 5th Army (covering the front from near Chalons to the Luxembourg border), wanted to use part of 3rd Army to attack the German logistics hub at Reims (the capture of which would have seriously debilitated Army Group A).

Daladier intervened with orders for both 2nd and 5th Armies to move against the Germans in a general offensive aimed at Reims and the Marne river, only to find that the Germans had begun pulling out of the salient (Bock had had a long argument with General von Kleist, one of the people closest to Hitler, about the need to pull back from Paris). The resulting French offensive was confused, achieving none of its major aims while the Germans maintained a significant presence on both sides of the Marne.

Every Map Square A Destroyer, January 1942

In the days immediately following, America’s entry into the war, Donitz had decided that the best way to defeat the British convoys would be to concentrate attacks near the US East Coast, where defensive measures such as maritime patrol flights would be less organised, in contrast to the area east of Iceland which was patrolled by an overwhelming concentration of British and Japanese forces. Although the plan could not be carried out as initially intended owing to the inability of a Type VII U-boat to travel from Kiel to the East Coast and back, a more practical version of the plan was carried out.

From September 1941 until around January 1942, Donitz’s plan proved wildly successful. With dozens of U-boats operating in an area around 1000km wide due south of Greenland, poorly escorted US merchant ships became easy prey for German wolf packs, with monthly tonnage losses briefly reaching levels equal to or worse than those seen in early 1917.

Such good fortune was not to last. By January 1942, much of the US Pacific Fleet had passed through the Panama Canal for service in Europe, while dockyards on the East Coast accelerated production of massive numbers of destroyers and merchant ships. The existing USN proved not to need the reinforcements, as their 150 destroyers proved enough to reasonably cover the ‘Greenland Gap’ once it was identified by Allied planners, and by February U-boats were being sunk once again at the rates that the British and Japanese had been achieving.

The quick closing of the ‘Greenland Gap’ caused Hitler to fly into a rage, with Donitz bearing the brunt of his anger. In early February, Hitler cancelled the U-boat operations (and effectively made Donitz’s post as head of the U-boat arm meaningless), placing his faith in the surface fleet and directing most of the Kriegsmarine’s resources to the Luftwaffe.

Behind the Battlefield, February 1942

In 1938, the Soviet espionage and intelligence services, controlled by the NKVD, had been among the greatest in the world. Thousands of spies, seeking to advance the cause of world communism, had infiltrated the Western nations and Japan, sending Moscow vital information about their future rivals. The announcement of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and then the Axis Pact months later, had shaken the confidence of many communists: anti-fascism was once a core tenet of communist ideology but now abandoned by Stalin (whose propaganda machine was now declaring the need to defeat capitalism and imperialism). Many Soviet spies abandoned the USSR, finding work in the countries that they had once stolen secrets from, although few actively worked against the USSR.

Stalin and Beria were left with approximately one-eighth of their former spies by 1941. But what they lacked in numbers, they now had in fanatical commitment to the communist cause. Many of the spies that had left them were nothing more than opportunist mercenaries, but those who remained were certain to be loyal. Axis intelligence efforts were also hampered by the fierce anti-communism that had arisen in the West (the Communist Party USA had been declared illegal and its leaders interned, and similar actions had been taken in Britain), and the German Abwehr had been generally incompetent (all of its operatives in Britain had been captured by 1941).

In spite of this, the NKVD made an important discovery in February 1942: the British had managed to break the supposedly unbreakable Enigma code and were reading secret German messages on a daily basis. Stalin immediately informed Hitler, warning him that the code-breaking was a likely reason why the U-boats had been so quickly countered in the ‘Greenland Gap’. Hitler was initially unconvinced, but after the KMS Scharnhorst and Deutschland were sent on another convoy raiding operation, only to be sunk within 36 hours by British bombers, he ordered all parts of the Wehrmacht to switch to a more advanced Enigma machine. Stalin also urged Hitler to immediately resume submarine raids, but it was not until August 1942 that he allowed Donitz to send the U-boats out again. By that time, Allied ASW practises had improved to the point that it was an unsustainable effort, while the Kriegsmarine remained starved of resources.

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So...
-Enigma may be out of play, at least for the moment. But Bletchley Park are still the best code breakers around.
-With the Japanese as allies, all the resources that OTL Allies deployed to the Pacific are now available elsewhere.
-the German have not, seemingly, been as successful as the Soviets; so that may lead to resentment and/or tension.
-the French have weathered the storm so they are unlikely to collapse like IOTL.
 
Alaska will be fun, there will has a military build in the region like cold war for sure. Russian battlefield will be bloodshed when German fell, they like Japan Downfall but just millions time bigger (it’s exaggerate I know).
 
Was Trotsky still assassinated ITTL, I may ask?
Yeah, he's dead

Alaska will be fun, there will has a military build in the region like cold war for sure. Russian battlefield will be bloodshed when German fell, they like Japan Downfall but just millions time bigger (it’s exaggerate I know).
Is there really a need to build up Alaska ITTL? Japan invaded most of the coastal ports in Siberia other than Vladivostock already and inland bases can't host enough bombers with long enough range to seriously threaten Alaska (nothing like a Tu-4 in 1941, no nukes either). I would have thought most American efforts in the Pacific would be directed towards China and Korea, or at worst Japan.

Western Front map in March 1942:
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*light blue line represents the Marne river (approx.: I can't draw rivers good!)

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Knowing Hitler and looking at the map, I'm not surprised that he didn't order a pincer movement to destroy the BEF on his vulnerable position close to the Atlantic Coast. After all, is Hitler we are talking about and he of course ordered to take Paris instead. He never changes no matter the timeline.
 
Knowing Hitler and looking at the map, I'm not surprised that he didn't order a pincer movement to destroy the BEF on his vulnerable position close to the Atlantic Coast. After all, is Hitler we are talking about and he of course ordered to take Paris instead. He never changes no matter the timeline.
Ehh, it's not that stupid to focus on Paris. The British line at least as far south as the French border is entrenched (think Kursk for the strength of some of these positions) and behind a river. Go much further west and you run into Flanders - last I checked Passchendaele makes terrible tank country.

Certainly the front covered by the 2nd British Army makes a viable offensive plan too, but considering how close they are to Paris (Gustav range) and the obvious morale victory they would win by capturing the French capital, it's hard to blame Hitler for choosing that.

Targeting it with 4 major offensives on the other hand... yeah that's "Idiot Hitler" trope worthy. :p

I've got another update 3/4 done, but I've got games that need attention, so it can wait until tomorrow.

Merry Christmas all my readers!

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Ehh, it's not that stupid to focus on Paris. The British line at least as far south as the French border is entrenched (think Kursk for the strength of some of these positions) and behind a river. Go much further west and you run into Flanders - last I checked Passchendaele makes terrible tank country.

Certainly the front covered by the 2nd British Army makes a viable offensive plan too, but considering how close they are to Paris (Gustav range) and the obvious morale victory they would win by capturing the French capital, it's hard to blame Hitler for choosing that.

Targeting it with 4 major offensives on the other hand... yeah that's "Idiot Hitler" trope worthy. :p

I've got another update 3/4 done, but I've got games that need attention, so it can wait until tomorrow.

Merry Christmas all my readers!

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Seems legit. But once the American arrive to Europe, the Western Front is going to fall as castle of cards. How many oil reserves the German have left after so many offensives? Also, Merry Christmas to you :)
 
How many oil reserves the German have left after so many offensives?

Heaps. Distances in France aren't anything like what was needed in Barbarossa or Case Blue, and it doesn't take much petrol to get in a tank, drive across no man's land and get blown up by the first mine on the other side. And Stalin's giving Hitler all the oil he could ever want too.

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Heaps. Distances in France aren't anything like what was needed in Barbarossa or Case Blue, and it doesn't take much petrol to get in a tank, drive across no man's land and get blown up by the first mine on the other side. And Stalin's giving Hitler all the oil he could ever want too.

How are their mechanized forces looking like? Four major failed offensives has to have done a number the Heers mobile units
 
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