The True Divided Nation - An Alternate North America

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  1. Gabzcervo Vanguards of Liberty and Paradise is coming soon

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    Fixed with constitutional stratocracy.
    Zambia has suffered bad human rights record and it's because the ruling party had won every elections in one or two decade but still had suffered rounds of violence motivated by LRA.
     
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  2. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    To be honest, I like most of the assessments regarding travel warnings etc., @Gabzcervo ! What I didn't really like is you insisting on exactly those ratings and not consulting us when you might have been insecure.

    I also don't think that much of banning travel to a nation - in Germany, where I come from, no travel is banned at all. There are "travel warnings" where you are warned of the dangers when going to Syria or Iraq or Congo, but one can do so.

    Why do you want to apply so many travel bans?

    And what is the problem in Northern Greece?
     
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  3. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    Correct, but as you had no objections or anything, this still stands. I would not have been so averse to any objections.

    I didn't consult you before, that is correct. But I would have reacted to objections without just dismissing them.
     
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  4. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    Interesting... I had pictured the governments of Angola and Zambia, Austria etc. a particular way, and LRA attacks would either occur in both or neither nation.
     
  5. Gabzcervo Vanguards of Liberty and Paradise is coming soon

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    Northern Greece has also considered a hotbed of violence due to Albanian-led insurgents continuously fighting for decades.

    But not only this, but there are ongoing border clashes with the neighboring East Greece and hosted a marauding Egyptian forces that were based inside the Western Greece.
     
  6. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    That's outright implausible. Did you inform yourself where Albanians live?
    This could be the case in Southern Epirus, but even more so in Serbia. In Kosovo (here part of Serbia), there could be a lasting Albanian insurgency. In Northern Greece, the population is just as Greek as in any other part of Greece.

    Sorry if I sounded harsh, though. I liked the map really well, and I am just questioning some of the assessments. Another question would be: Why is Laos considered so safe and Hmong (northern part of Laos) so unsafe?
     
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  7. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    These would take place in the Aegean Sea, not on the border with Thrace. Thrace is protected by the international community.

    What do you mean? Some rogue Egyptian troops, and what are they doing?
     
  8. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    Well-explained, but I would still put Austria on at least the "take precautions" level.

    And imagining a "constitutional stratocracy" will be interesting, too. The main reason why I don't see Austria as (fully) democratic (also on the Press Freedom Index map) but as stratocracy instead is that I wanted to keep it extremely conservatively Catholic.
     
  9. Ferd42 Wished away:Thinks he is funny, in fact an idiot.

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    This seems to be what often happens. You tend to make certain that there a lot of Catholic bad guys.
     
  10. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    One rather big mistake I have found: East Greece (about TTLs North Korea!) should be labelled as "extremely unsafe/banned".
     
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  11. Gabzcervo Vanguards of Liberty and Paradise is coming soon

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    Look at the information about the Northern Epirus.
     
  12. Whiteshore Defender of Myrcella Baratheon

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    Any details?
     
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  13. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    But you extended unsafety to all of Northern Greece.

    To be honest, I will soon post an updated map here in the hope that you like it better.
     
  14. Gabzcervo Vanguards of Liberty and Paradise is coming soon

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    I've already retcon the map.
     
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  15. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    Thanks for addressing most of our concerns! I will probably still post another map, but I like the new version much better already!
     
  16. Threadmarks: RFE/RL: 3/12/19

    Gabzcervo Vanguards of Liberty and Paradise is coming soon

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  17. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    A cool news article, @Gabzcervo ! However, RFE/RL probably would not exist - those have been replaced by the Free Internet Organisation and/or the Reichsfreiheitssender (alluded to earlier in the thread).
     
  18. Gabzcervo Vanguards of Liberty and Paradise is coming soon

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    Or RFE/RL had been headquartered in Boston, MA.
     
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  19. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    It should be called just "Radio Liberty", as the "free Europe" thing has not been a major focus of this timeline (at least not more so than a "free Asia" or "free Africa" - not like in OTL)
     
  20. Gabzcervo Vanguards of Liberty and Paradise is coming soon

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    Let's give and propel my promotion with a video or photos of St. Bernard, the dog because I'm going to accept a video of dogs while @Kanan loves photos of cats:

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