The True Divided Nation - An Alternate North America

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  1. Ferd42 Well-Known Member

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    Oh no, sorry. My point was more that you could have a similar system whether media group was a syndicate or a coperation.
     
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  2. Threadmarks: ABC News: 03/07/19

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  3. Ferd42 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe these could be treadmarked now?
     
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  4. Ferd42 Well-Known Member

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    Computer generated image of South Chinese tank destroyer. Equipped with three rail-guns, fires one at time, alternating when necessary due to temperature. The large body of the tank is needed to allow space for the engine and generators needed to power the weapons. Machine guns in the side attempt to protect it from Infantry.
     
  5. Whiteshore Defender of Myrcella Baratheon

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    What does South China call this?
     
  6. Ferd42 Well-Known Member

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    "Hyper-Spear"?
     
  7. Threadmarks: Proletarium

    Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    Most people have a substance in their household that they do not know of - this is true independent of their or their nation's political affiliation.
    The substance is called Proletarium:

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  8. Threadmarks: US Census Ethnic Groups List

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    European:
    Anglo Celtic (English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Anglo-Scots, Scots-Irish, New Englander, Deseretan, Cascadian, Anglo-Uruguayan)
    Continental European
    Nordic (Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Finnish, Icelandic)
    Romano-German (German, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Oberlander, Franco-Missourian, Puerto Rican, Romansh, Dutch, Flemish, New Netherlander, Californian, Catalan, Peninsulares, etc.)
    Eastern European (Russian, Polish, Bulgarian, Serbian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Croatian, Bosniak, Hungarian, Lithuanian, Livonian, Estonian, Latvian, Czechoslovak, etc.)
    Others
    European Caribbean (Europeans originated from Caribbean countries)
    European Asian (Anglo-Indian, Franco-Vietnamese, Portuguese Timorian, Euro-Insulindian, European East Asians, Peninsulares Filipinos, etc.)
    European African (Europeans originated from African countries)
    European Insulari (New Silesian, Auralian, Patagonian, Argentine, Chilean, Uruguayan, Magellanican, New Bavarian, New Rhinelander, etc.)
    Mixed/Other

    Asian:
    East Asian (North Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Mongolian, Manchurian, South Chinese, Tibetan, Southeast Asians)
    South Asian (Indian, Maharashtran, Dravidian, Hyderabad, Mysore, Keralan, Bastari, etc.)
    Central Asian (Tajikistani, Afghani, Kirghiz, Iranian/Persian, etc.)
    Hybrid Asian (Mixed with more than Asian subgroup)

    Sub-Saharan African:
    Afro-American (Groups with origins from Africa)
    Afro-Confederate (Groups with origins from the Confederate States)
    Afro-Caribbean (Africans with origins from Caribbean countries)
    Hybrid/Mixed (Mixed without belonging to the one or two categories)

    Indigenous:
    Indigenous American (Sioux, Lakotan, Cherokee, Navajo, etc.)
    Amerindian
    Pacific Islanders
    Indigenous African (Kru, Kpelle, Bassa, Grebo, etc.)
    Philippine (e.g. Igorots, Ilongots, Aetas, Cordillerans, Gaddang, Ivatan, Mangyan, Palawano, etc.)

    Turkic:
    Turkic (Originated from Turkic-speaking countries, e.g. Turkish, Uzbek, Kazakh, Azerbaijani, Uyghur, etc.)

    Middle Eastern/North African:
    Arab (Origins from Arabic-speaking countries)
    Berber (Indigenous North Africans)
    Other (Druze, Assyrians, Kurds, etc.)
    Mixed

    Hybrid:
    Mestizo (Mixed Iberians)
    Métis
    Krio
    Other

    Mixed Race:
    Mixed with one or two or more of categories above than the standard list (NOT CREOLE)
     
  9. Demothenes Can’t we just get back to the good times

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    I feel like race relations might actually be worse in ATL United States in a somewhat European sense. There was unlikely a huge migration in the early 20tb Century of Black people towards the North simply because it would have meant crossing national lines. We might still have demographics similar to states in the 1800’s, for example New York was 98% White. So while there might be support of their rights, they’re far less likely to hold major positions than in the modern day United States where they’re simply a higher proportion of the population. New England might be instructive of this, where there are some real discrimination partly just due to seperation, despite us looking down on it if it happened anywhere else. It might be worth looking at the country at the pod rather than looking at it as if the South was split off now.
     
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  10. Threadmarks: US Travel Advisory as of March 12, 2019

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    YOU NEED TO KNOW FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN TRAVEL:
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    Any questions, suggestions, and comments. Please feel free to ask any questions or suggestions.
     
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  11. The British Empire Not A Well-Known Member

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    January 13.

    4:00 PM (January 12. In the Midwest, it is 2:00 AM on the 13th.) sharp.

    At the Mitsukoshi Department Store in Keijio, Miyoko Maki put on his gas mask in the men's restroom on the 2nd floor. He'd then walk by a designer clothes store, and then punctured the one of the 4 filled with Sarin with a pen he had on him. He'd then travel up the other 3 floors, where he punctured each of the 3 bags he had left.

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    Due to the previous 3 attacks, there were very few people in the building, and therefore, only 25 would die of the gas, and 84 others were infected, but survived (Not counting the infected that were killed in the bombing). But, this was not the end.

    Miyoko, now noticing that his gas mask was faulty, quickly attempts to inject the antidote into himself, only for him to drop it off the roof. In one last blaze of glory, he detonated the bomb in his car, a 2002 Hyundai Avante, which killed 15 and wounded 39, before jumping off of the balcony, killing himself, and 1 other person, which he fell on.

    In total, 42 were killed and 123 were wounded.


    2 hours and 9 minutes later (12:09 PM Constantinople time), Turkish Airlines Flight 917, a Boeing 777-300ER, registration TC-JJH, with 400 passengers and 14 crew, took off from Constantinople, bound for Casablanca.

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    At 12:17 PM, the 3 hijackers, Halit Bilgi, Rahman Hamdi, and Toydemir Yagci got up from their seats at 1D, 1E, and 1G. A flight attendant, Gulsu Sulak, attempted to stop Halit, but he told her that he was going to the restroom, she tried to block the exit, and so he stabbed her, severely wounding her and causing her to die approximately 5 minutes later.

    Rahman then kicked down the door, and Toydemir and Halit dragged pilots Polat Gulen and Akdogan Alptekin out of the cockpit. Polat was killed first, and Akdogan proceeded to fight the hijackers, managing to kill Rahman with a blow to the throat, before being killed too.

    Toydemir marched off, taking control of the aircraft at 12:20, and started to turn the plane around towards Izmir, and set the transponder to 7500, the code for hijacking, as a way to taunt ATC.

    He also kept conversing with other planes in the area, primarily SunExpress Flight 9184 and 958. He mostly talked about how they were next, and sometimes tried to turn towards them, as if they were about to collide.

    At 12:31, Flight 917 crashed into Building A of the Folkhart Towers in Izmir, known for being the headquarters of the Constantinople Administration Commission. Flight 917 hit below the floors where it was headquartered, between the 15th and 20th floors, and trapping everyone above the impact site, killing all 414 people on board, plus 1,220 on the ground. 361 were also wounded when the building collapsed at 12:47.

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    An hour and 59 minutes later, at 2:24 AM (LA Time), Sun Country Airlines Flight 430 takes off from Los Angeles-Proaño. It was a Boeing 737-800 with 183 passengers and 5 crew. Its registration was N804SY.

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    At 2:27, the 3 hijackers, Orville Farmer, Randall Holt, and Neal Andrews rose up from their seats at 1A, 1B, and 1C, and forced the 2 pilots, Christopher Hicks and Spencer Vaughn, out of the cockpit. The entire hijacking was relatively peaceful compared to the bloodbath aboard Turkish Airlines 917, which left 4 dead, with Farmer using the threat of murder instead of murdering.

    Holt and Andrews then moved everyone to the back of the plane, as Farmer took the controls. The plane shook as Farmer attempted to not hit a helicopter about ready to land at their target: The US Bank Tower in Los Angeles.

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    But, they couldn't, and the wing collided with the helicopter, destroying it and killing the pilot, Owen Olson, at 4:29, before slamming into an area between the 25th and 18th floors in the US Bank Tower, killing all 188 people on board.

    The plane didn't destroy the stairs like in Constantinople, but it did sever elevator shafts, causing elevators to plummet, often times killing its occupants.

    This attack also killed 340 and wounded 663.
     
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  12. Ferd42 Well-Known Member

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    Pervesely, I feel that south Agleria would likely be more dangerous than north Algeria, as there is less rule of law.
    Also why is southern Italy a problem?
     
  13. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    This is from a US perspective, isn't it?

    • Why is travel to the Kingdom of Hejaz banned?
    • I also don't think the US could ban travel to so many nations. It could be a (staunch) warning not to travel, but "banned" I do find a bit harsh?
    • Why are Angola and Zambia rated differently?
    • Why are some of the militarist nations/stratocracies in Europe considered safe?
     
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  14. Whiteshore Defender of Myrcella Baratheon

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    If I had to guess, political instability?
     
  15. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    That I can well explain. South Italy is militarist, and thus an oppressive dictatorship (see my Press Freedom Inex map!), and there can at any point be a standoff with North Italy and/or the Republic of the Two Sardinias. Also, South Italy is extremely conservative to put it mildly. LGBTQ+ activities (at least in public) are criminalised, and you do have to follow strict religious norms. Also, communism (whether Soviet or Syndicalist-type) is strictly prohibited and will be persecuted, you have little freedom of opinion etc.
     
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  16. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    Thanks for joining us!

    Might be true to some extent, however, there are many more French, Dutch and German minorities (and among those, there can be some blacks, too - colonailism).
     
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  17. Gabzcervo Timeline raises FAQs

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    Angola is a illiberal democratic country based on medium record of press and internet freedom but suffered by intense protests, wanting the regime to change. Back on August 20, 2009, there were protesters who were gathered to participate the march to protest against current corruption and worst government conditions and efficiency but the government responded quickly by crackdown on protesters after president Jose Coelho and his ruling party had deemed protest as "syndicalist plot" and allowed members of LRA to have sanctuary but a result is sanctions created by president Ellen Sirleaf (2007-2010).

    Austria is a moderately safe stratocratic country in Europe because of the country had to focus on tourism and considered constitutional stratocratic republic but unfortunately, due to staunchly Mitteleurosceptic.
     
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  18. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    @Whiteshore , why do you like a post that is barely understandable?

    Yes, but why is it different to Zambia?

    Also, what do you mean with Austria? Shall I rather ask you things in panish or what?
     
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  19. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    That is actually not possible.

    And how did you determine the ranks etc. without even consulting us?
     
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