The True Divided Nation - An Alternate North America

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  1. InfernoMole WTF I hate dragons now

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    Okay. This is acceptable now.

    Thank you.
     
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  2. SaveAtlacamani Napoleon the Red Donor

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    Still, I changed things around at the end. No Hollande anymore.
     
  3. Filo Count of Santa Lucia

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    Ok, i think to have the right person... Both north and south
     
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  4. AlternateHistory191 General Secretary of the Proxima Centauri b SSR

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    Why don't the electoral vote tallies match the map?
     
  5. Filo Count of Santa Lucia

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    Here my suggestions for the Southern Italy:
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    Giulio Andreotti, the biggest, longest, and probably powerful, politician we italian ever had(Connected with Mafias, terrorist organizzations and other crimes, never loose his humor).
    (N.B I despite hem, but was a true politic nothingless)
    Able to play with Americans and societs, between fascistes and Communistes.

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    Junio Valerio Borghese, the man who could be the italian Pinochet.
    He tried a coup d'etat in 1070 OTL Italy, but for reason unknown he retired the order and then fleed in fascist Spain. ITTL he could be your man.
    (He died, probably killed, in 1974)

    For the North one:
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    Walter Audisio was the man who killed Mussolini

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    Guido Fanti was a moderate and a man of culture.
    The downtown of Bologna is his own work.


    This is only mine suggestions.
    Tell me if you like.
     
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  6. SaveAtlacamani Napoleon the Red Donor

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    I will use some of those suggestions at least, @Filo
     
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  7. Threadmarks: List of heads of government and state of France

    SaveAtlacamani Napoleon the Red Donor

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    List of heads of government of France:

    1792-1871: Directory/Triumvirate
    1871-1880: Louis Charles Delescluze (Ouvrières de la Commune)
    1880-1907: Alain Bersot (Ouvrières de la Commune)
    1907-1925: Loïc Piocelle (Ouvrières de la Commune)
    1925-1935: Marc Clichy (Ouvrières de la Commune)
    1935-1955: Cédric Avinel (Syndicat General des Mineurs)
    1955-1965: Guillaume Dupray (Syndicat des Cheminots)
    1965-1975: Hérault Niaré (Syndicat Agro-Industrial)
    1975-1985: Ilan Germany (Syndicat Industrial Français)
    1985-2005: Benoît Larouac (Union d'ouvrières de la Salute)
    2005-2025: Gaël Germany (Syndicat Industrial Français)

    List of Heads of State of France (Leader of the Unions):

    1922-1928: Pierre Semard
    1928-1940: Maurice Thorez
    1940-1952: Léon Blum
    1952-1958: Maurice Thorez
    1958-1970: Ho Chi Minh
    1970-1976: Djibo Bakary
    1976-1982: Georges Marchais
    1982-1994: Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali
    1994-2000: Lionel Jospin
    2000-2012: Hérault Niaré
    2012-2024: Jean-Luc Mélénchon
    2024-2036: Bixente Lizarazu
     
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  8. Whiteshore Defender of Myrcella Baratheon

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    How surprising.
     
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  9. SaveAtlacamani Napoleon the Red Donor

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    It was alluded to in the infobox already.
     
  10. Whiteshore Defender of Myrcella Baratheon

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    Also, maybe we could insert Thorez, Blum, Mitterand, or Marchais somewhere?
     
  11. Whiteshore Defender of Myrcella Baratheon

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    Maybe Thorez and Marchais could be leaders of a "Centralist" faction while Blum and Mitterand lead "reformist" factions?
     
  12. SaveAtlacamani Napoleon the Red Donor

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    Mitterand is POTUS, anyway. But at least Thorez is now a historic Head of State in France, @Whiteshore
     
  13. Whiteshore Defender of Myrcella Baratheon

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    What became of Melencton ITTL?
     
  14. Threadmarks: List of heads of state and government of North and South Italy

    SaveAtlacamani Napoleon the Red Donor

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    Credit for some of the names on the list goes to @Filo ! Thanks for helping me on Italy!

    List of rulers of Italy (1921-...)

    List of Capo degli Operai (Supreme Workers) of North Italy (=Heads of State):

    1921-1957: Amadeo Bordiga
    1957-1973: Walter Audisio
    1973-1994: Guido Fanti
    1994-2008: Achille Occhetto
    2008-...: Tommaso Gambadori

    List of leaders of the SGLI (Sindicato Generale dei Lavoratori Italiani) (= Heads of Government of North Italy):

    1921-1957: Amadeo Bordiga
    1957-1965: Palmiro Togliatti
    1965-1971: Pietro Nenni
    1971-1977: Emergency/Collective Leadership
    1977-1995:
    Danile Dolci
    1995-2002: Massimo D'Alema
    2002-2016: Gennaro Migliore
    2016-2037: Tommaso Fogli

    List of Prime Ministers of South Italy:

    1921-1926: Gabriele D'Annunzio (Partito del Risorgimento Nazionale)
    1926-1928: Achille Starace (PRN)
    1928-1939: Gabriele D'Annunzio (PRN)
    1939-1943: Scipione Borghese (independent)
    1943-1947: Italo Balbo (PRN)
    1947: Scipione Borghese (independent)
    1947-1953: Galeazzo Ciano (PRN)
    1953: Giulio Andreotti (non-partisan, later Partito Cristiano)
    1953-1954: Amintore Fanfani (Partito Cristiano)
    1954: Mario Scelba (Partito Cristiano)
    1954-1955: Giulio Andreotti (Partito Cristiano)
    1955: Giuseppe Pella (Partito Cristiano)

    1955-1956: Mario Scelba (Partito Cristiano)
    1956: Giuseppe Pella (Partito Cristiano)
    1956-1958: Amintore Fanfani (Partito Cristiano)
    1958-1959: Mario Scelba (Partito Cristiano)
    1959: Amintore Fanfani (Partito Cristiano)
    1959: Antonio Segni (Partito Cristiano)
    1959-1960: Adone Zoli (PC)
    1960-1961: Antonio Segni (PC)
    1961-1964: Amintore Fanfani (PC)
    1964: Adone Zoli (PC)
    1964-1965: Giulio Andreotti (PC)
    1965-1966: Amintore Fanfani (PC)
    1966-1967: Giulio Andreotti (PC)
    1967-1972: Aldo Moro (PL)
    1972: Governo d'Unita Nazionale (Junio Valerio Borghese) (coup d'état and Third Sardinian Crisis)
    1972-1975: civil war/Italian War
    1975-1981: Junio Valerio Borghese
    1981-2005: Vincenzo Vinciguerra/Stefano Delle Chiaie
    2005-2019: Vincenzo Vinciguerra/Attilio Carelli
    2019-...: Umar Mukhtar bin Muhamad Hosny/Attilio Carelli
     
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  15. Filo Count of Santa Lucia

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    Just to know
    This is Partito del risorgimento nazionale

    This is better Capo degli Operai, or Capo Operaio, (if plural is Capi Operai)

    Sorry for correction, but is nice see some Italian language, and i hope to do something helping with right spelling.

    Nice TL.
     
  16. SaveAtlacamani Napoleon the Red Donor

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    I am fine with corrections! Thanks for your assistance! Now I finished the list for South Italy.
     
  17. Filo Count of Santa Lucia

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    Could be also Partito Nazional-risorgimentale.
    Connecting the party with the struggle for Italian unity
     
  18. basileus Inflammable

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    Mussolini, Balbo and De Gasperi were Northerners through and through. Heck, de Gasperi was technically Austrian-born!
     
  19. SaveAtlacamani Napoleon the Red Donor

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    Oh. I must change De Gasperi then, but Mussolini and Balbo could well have fled from the communist revolution in the north.

    Who would you suggest as an equally democratic, but stability-providing southerner?
     
  20. Filo Count of Santa Lucia

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    Before to became the Duce, Mussolini was a journalist for a Socialist newspaper...i see improbable that he fled from a Socialist country (sorry i have not see that).
     
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