The Tiger of Samarkand

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    Part One: The Young King
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    Above: Padshah Babur of the Timurid Empire
    In the year 1504, the city of Samarkand was won back by a joint force of the Timurid and Safavid empires, who had successfully defeated the Shaybanids. The leader of these Timurids, a young man named Babur, literally meaning ‘the tiger’, was crowned the new Emir of Oxiana, and began to consolidate his power in the region.
    That same year, Babur had conquered Kabul, a city that had been a centre of the Silk Road, forcing their king to move south. The next year, he finally conquered Herat, and Shaybani’s hopes were crushed.
    In 1513, he began to conquer further, finally becoming the ruler of all Central Asia.
    As Babur began to grow older, and as he began to conquer more and more, he would take up the title of Padshah, the emperor of the Timurid Empire.
    And as for Hindustan? That was a dream away. Nobody had time to conquer them. At least not for a while.
     
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    I suppose this means Babur betrays his Safavid allies or something happens to them, maybe the Ottomans decide to push eastward after Chaldiran and the remnants of the Safavids decide to pledge their loyalty to the Timurids. Either way, I'm excited.
     

    Kaushlendra pratap singh

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    Babur stabilises north India economy which further increases the stability of Deccan sultanate if this not happen than Vijayanagar will conquer south India and in north Rajput will slowly cannibalise Lodi Delhi sultanate. So in the modern world, there will be three empire will be in India - in south Vijayanagar empire, In North-West Rajput confederacy, in east Kalinga (Bihar, Bangla, Orissa ) empire of Gajpati and In central India, there will be numbers of small state like Kashi, Awadh, Bhopal and state of Gondwana (modern Chhattisgarh) .
     

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    Kaushlendra pratap singh said:
    Babur stabilises north India economy which further increases the stability of Deccan sultanate if this not happen than Vijayanagar will conquer south India and in north Rajput will slowly cannibalise Lodi Delhi sultanate. So in the modern world, there will be three empire will be in India - in south Vijayanagar empire, In North-West Rajput confederacy, in east Kalinga (Bihar, Bangla, Orissa ) empire of Gajpati and In central India, there will be numbers of small state like Kashi, Awadh, Bhopal and state of Gondwana (modern Chhattisgarh) .
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    Well you are sort of right but Vijayanagara would not survive, even without the Mughals, given that the local Sultans already defeated them on their own. Cool to see so many people dropping in!
    P.S- Thanks for informing me about the Gajapati Kings!
     

    Kaushlendra pratap singh

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    You know without a better economy they can't afford a war with Vijayanagar, Portugal helped Vijayanagar with gun and trade but before the defeat of Vijayanagar in Ottoman , Mughal and Deccan sultanate defeated Portugal in the sea which destabilizes the economy of Vijayanagar, without Babur everything going to the opposite of OTL
     

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    Kaushlendra pratap singh said:
    You know without a better economy they can't afford a war with Vijayanagar, Portugal helped Vijayanagar with gun and trade but before the defeat of Vijayanagar in Ottoman , Mughal and Deccan sultanate defeated Portugal in the sea which destabilizes the economy of Vijayanagar, without Babur everything going to the opposite of OTL
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    Interesting.
     

    Kaushlendra pratap singh

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    And Vijayanagar lost the war in Talikota due to Muslim general switched side and attacked King tent and killed king Aliya Rama. Vijayanagar was first empire to use musket in India, if they were not defeated in that battle than musket will not fallen out of India .
     
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    Well you are sort of right but Vijayanagara would not survive, even without the Mughals, given that the local Sultans already defeated them on their own. Cool to see so many people dropping in!
    P.S- Thanks for informing me about the Gajapati Kings!
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    Talikota wasn't until 1565, and that was more due to the alliance of the five Deccan successors, and a decisive defection of two Muslim commanders while Viyajanagar was winning. If we are talking a POD in the 1510's the historical decline of Vijayanagar is very far from a sure thing, in fact, they are being led by their greatest emperor Krishnadevaraya. Is it safe assume the Lodi's are going to be a northern hegemon since Sikander Lodhi died an illness in 1517? But I'm kind of skeptical with the age Wikipedia gives which places him at 83 by the time of his death, although the Lodi's were on shaky ground even without the Mughals. With Eastern India, while the Sultanate of Bengal might be a power, they could be threatened by the Lodhi, while the Gajapatis were at war with Vijayanagar, a war which Krishnadevaraya was winning.
     
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