The Sunne in Splendour: A War of the Roses Timeline

“Our father was no important man,” his brother said. “He didn’t oppose the King. There were a hundred others who Edward could’ve had killed and gained more from it.”

“And is that enough for you to believe him?” asked Anthony. “You shame his memory by allying yourself with him and failing to get your revenge.”

“Revenge?” John retorted, arching an eyebrow. “Would you kill the King, so our father’s shade could rest? And after that, what would happen?”

“England would be at peace once more under the Lancastrians,” he responded, but John laughed, shaking his head as if it was all a hilarious jape.

“Do you really believe that?” he asked. “Do you really think the Nevilles, the Talbots and so many others would not rise again in the name of King Edward’s sons? Sons who would grow up planning to avenge their father’s death, dreaming of shooting arrows with your face for a target?” John had a serious expression, mouth tense. “Revenge is a cycle. A wheel. These ones on top then those ones on top, and on and on it spins until the end of times.”

“I shall break the wheel,” he retorted and John arched an eyebrow.
Great note from John Woodville about cutting off the cycle and just embracing the peace that’s at hand. Also don’t think I didn’t see that Game of Thrones reference.
 
I wanted to post a new chapter today, but I got my booster shot this afternoon and I'm have more side effects than anticipated so sadly, I don't think it will be possible! Hopefully, I'll feel well enough to post something this weekend.
 
I wanted to post a new chapter today, but I got my booster shot this afternoon and I'm have more side effects than anticipated so sadly, I don't think it will be possible! Hopefully, I'll feel well enough to post something this weekend.
Have a nice hot tea, and a nice hot soup, and relax for today...
 
Can we perhaps get a family tree with all of Edward’s illegitimate children and their mothers? How is everything going in France and Spain?
 
Can we perhaps get a family tree with all of Edward’s illegitimate children and their mothers? How is everything going in France and Spain?
Things in Spain are pretty much going as they went OTL. Also, I'll see what I can do. Many of the bastards don't have set birthdates or confirmed mothers so...
 
I literally just thought about this, but…will we see Jane Shore and/or Richard’s illegitimate children?

or have John and Katherine been butterflied away?
 
I literally just thought about this, but…will we see Jane Shore and/or Richard’s illegitimate children?

or have John and Katherine been butterflied away?
Attentive eyes would know that the woman known to history as Jane Shore already appeared, though married to someone else.


Jane Woodville's maiden name is Elizabeth Lambert.
 
I literally just thought about this, but…will we see Jane Shore and/or Richard’s illegitimate children?

or have John and Katherine been butterflied away?
I also will probably put more focus on Richard's children with Mary Stewart, but there's nothing to say that John or Katherine can't appear in the future.
 
Family Tree - Valois
Louis XI of France (July 1423-) m. a) Margaret Stewart (1436-1445); b) Charlotte de Savoy (1441-1469); c) Margaret of York (May 1446)
  1. b) Louis de France (October 1458–1460)
  2. b) Joachim de France (July 1459–November 1459)
  3. b) Louise de France (born and died in 1460)
  4. b) Anne de France (April 1461−) m. Louis, Duke of Orléans (June 1462-)
  5. b) Joan de France (April 1464–)
  6. b) Marie de France (June 1469-)

  1. c) Charles, Dauphin of France (October 1470-)
  2. c) Marguerite de France (January 1472-)
  3. c) Louis de France (February 1473-)
 
Family Tree - Valois-Burgundy
Charles 'The Bold' I, Duke of Burgundy (November 1433-) m. a) Catherine de France (1428–July 1446); b) Isabella de Bourbon (1434-September 1465); c) Bona of Savoy (August 1449-)
  1. b) Marie de Bourgogne (February 1457-) m. Frañsez II, Duke of Brittany (June 1433-)

  1. c) Charles, Count of Charolais (January 1467-) b. Cecily of York (December 1467-)
  2. c) Isabella de Bourgogne (March 1468 -)
  3. c) Philippe de Bourgogne (September 1470-)
  4. c) Jean de Bourgogne (November 1471-)
 
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Cast - The White Queen (I)
The announced cast for The White Queen, a new tv show depicting the Yorkist court of England during the War of the Roses.

Synnove Karlsen as Madeleine de France
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Daniel Sharman as Edward of York
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David Oakes as George of Clarence
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Eleanor Tomlinson as Isabel Neville
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Aneurin Barnard as Richard of Gloucester
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Daisy Head as Margaret Beaufort
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Ben Lamb as John Woodville
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Sophie Skelton as Elizabeth Woodville
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Eve Ponsonby as Jane Woodville
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Louis XI of France (July 1423-) m. a) Margaret Stewart (1436-1445); b) Charlotte de Savoy (1441-1469); c) Margaret of York (May 1446)
  1. b) Louis de France (October 1458–1460)
  2. b) Joachim de France (July 1459–November 1459)
  3. b) Louise de France (born and died in 1460)
  4. b) Anne de France (April 1461−) m. Louis, Duke of Orléans (June 1462-)
  5. b) Joan de France (April 1464–)
  6. b) Marie de France (June 1469-)

  1. c) Charles, Dauphin of France (October 1470-)
  2. c) Marguerite de France (January 1472-)
  3. c) Louis de France (February 1473-)
Great to see Margaret with several kids here.
 
Cast - The White Queen (II)
Rebecca Ferguson as Marguerite de Anjou
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Dean-Charles Chapman as Edward of Westminster
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Isolda Dychauk as Maisie Stewart
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Daisy Ridley as Mary Stewart
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James Frain as Richard Neville
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Holliday Grainger as Bona of Savoy
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Richard Madden as Charles the Bold
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Cast - The White Queen (III)
Ed Stoppard as Louis de France
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Rose Williams as Margaret of York
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Florence Pugh as Annie Holland
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Luke Treadaway as Harri Tudor
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Keeley Hawes as Anne of York
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Michelle Dockery as Elizabeth of York
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Caroline Goodall as Cecily Neville
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