The Sultanate of Rumistan: An Alternate Anatolia

Marc

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Going by your map, it would appear that the Sultanate has the poorer and less populous parts of Anatolia. It would be difficult to maintain a strong state for any extended period under those circumstances.
(History, long term, is about access to resources more so than almost anything else).
 
Going by your map, it would appear that the Sultanate has the poorer and less populous parts of Anatolia. It would be difficult to maintain a strong state for any extended period under those circumstances.
(History, long term, is about access to resources more so than almost anything else).

The map hasn't been updated to reflect the conquests from Osman's War, wherein the Sultanate of Rum took almost all of the Roman holdings in Anatolia.
 
With the Mongols increasingly converting to Islam and the great Eurasian empires forged by the sons of Genghis Khan encouraging trade across the continent on a scale never before seen, there was much to rejoice over, across the world. As the traveling Venetian Marco Polo experienced firsthand, the connectedness and ease of commerce between the successor states of the Mongol Empire brought together the many disparate regions of Eurasia together. While this interconnectedness did foster travel, trade, and the birth of unique cultural fusions across the Tatar domains, they also fostered something else: disease. Beginning with outbreaks in China and Tibet, a new disease, referred to as the Terrible Plague, the Black Death, or the Great Pestilence, quickly flourished in the trade routes and major population centers of the Mongol Empire, and even spread beyond it, to ravage the Levant, India, and Europe.

Glad you have covered the Black plague.
In 1332 (732), with the steppes north of the Black Sea torn apart by the fighting of the generals of Oz Beg Khan and of upstart warlords, Sultan Kaykhusraw III issued a proclamation declaring his healthy state, and began to quickly institute responses to the ravages of the cities all across Anatolia, gather the dead and paying the Imams of the greatest masjids to lead immense funerary rites for the dead in the largest cities.

Is this a hint that Golden Horde has switched fates with the Ilkhanate?
 
The next few updates will be a bit shorter and focus on the effects of the Pestilence, there will probably be one that backtracks a bit to examine the last few Crusades... Which would you all be more interested in reading sooner? I will be posting them in the upcoming week!
 

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Going by your map, it would appear that the Sultanate has the poorer and less populous parts of Anatolia. It would be difficult to maintain a strong state for any extended period under those circumstances.
(History, long term, is about access to resources more so than almost anything else).
Well, that exact spot is what the Seljuks did hold when they successfully took over Anatolia.
 

Marc

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Well, that exact spot is what the Seljuks did hold when they successfully took over Anatolia.

Yes, and being a bit more granular (Medieval Anatolia is a topic I know more than a smidgen about), they had issues with loss of population: a rather large number of people migrated to the coasts that were still Byzantine; the Turkic tribes incoming didn't make up for that. Lack of valuable resources was a handicap, offset by a well thought out expansion of trade and trading routes. Eventually being able to take Sinope on the Black Sea, and Antalya on the Med did help - the latter especially. Still, in terms of economic and demographic resources, they were second tier at best at that time.
 
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Yes, and being a bit more granular (Medieval Anatolia is a topic I know more than a smidgen about), they had issues with loss of population: a rather large number of people migrated to the coasts that were still Byzantine; the Turkic tribes incoming didn't make up for that. Lack of valuable resources was a handicap, offset by a well thought out expansion of trade and trading routes. Eventually being able to take Sinope on the Black Sea, and Antalya on the Med did help - the latter especially. Still, in terms of economic and demographic resources, they were second tier at best at that time.

FWIW I remember reading a source back in uni which asserted that the Rumelian Sultanate absorbed a large number of Persian refugees fleeing the expansion of the Mongols, and noted in particular the rich bureaucratic and administrative traditions in Persia meant many of these migrants ended up in the administrations of the post-Mongol Turkish states. Perhaps a more sustained Persian migration towards Anatolia would kill several birds; it would help develop a solidified, urban bureaucracy in Rumelia (not to mention bringing the sophisticated Arab-Persian jurisprudence and historiography systems into play), but could also assist in solving the demographic issues of Rumelia, both in the short term by attracting migrants, and in the long term by bringing experience with large-scale irrigation projects in arid landscapes. Plus it would make for some interesting cultural development.
 
If the Turks had defeated the Mongols at Kose Dag, paradoxically the Byzantines might have fared better.

OTL, the Byzantine frontier collapsed because many Turks were desperate to get away from the Mongols. They did so by heading west, into Byzantine Anatolia.

This was a process that went on for decades, presumably because the Mongol rule wasn't desirable and people sought freedom and new lands further west.

If the Mongols are defeated, one possible historical outcome is that Byzantine western Anatolia survives for longer. In this case, it is conceivable that when Stephan Dushan of Serbia overruns most of the Balkans, the Byzantine Empire's only remaining territory consists of Constantinople and western Anatolia.

That would make for a fairly interesting scenario of its own. What happens next? Do the Serbs take Constantinople? And could western Anatolia become the location of modern Greece? And what would happen to the OTL Greek lands on the west side of the Aegean? Perhaps there could eventually be two "Greeces"?

Edit - I have created a map to show what I mean. This depicts an imaginary Byzantine Empire in c.1346, in this alternate scenario.

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Western Anatolia should have indeed remain Greek...
This TTL Byzantium should not be hemoraging as it seems to be, esp. in the Balkans.
 
The biggest issue for the Romans was civil war taken advantage of by outside powers- Osman's War destabilized the state and this was then taken advantage of by the Serbs and Bulgarians, though whether or not western Anatolia will remain in the hands of the Seljuqs is a completely different issue to them gaining it in the first place. Thank you so much for bringing that up though... I honestly hadn't considered that, and I'm so glad to have it pointed out. Thanks!
 
So Anatolia literally had its populations( mostly interior) destroyed. I got a feeling that Turcoman raiders from certain parts of Central Asia will also venture on down into Anatolia, and compete with others. Perhaps they'll be like the Vikings in Normandy, who were settled down to serve, being a protection against other raiders.
 
Part 8: The Pestilence in the East
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A Kurd goatherd in the modern day, in the fields around Malatya
Part 8: The Pestilence in the East
The Pestilence brought ravages, death, and chaos to so many different regions that it would be unproductive to truly examine them all. While the disease itself is most famous for the rapid population decline it brought upon Europe, our focuses must invariably be turned to other lands. First, we look to one of the lands most resoundingly changed of all of those affected: eastern Anatolia.

Where before the land was dotted with large cities and major defenses, from Charpete to Erzurum, inhabited by Armenians, Turcomen, and Jews alike, it was now an empty and howling land. As the Pestilence swept over Anatolia from the west, each and every one of these cities was absolutely devastated. The streets of Erzurum were empty of the typical merchants and passers-by, instead packed with the unmoving dead and the limp vagrants, brought into the city from the countryside by the famined fields, no farmers to plough them. The garrisons which once guarded the citadel of Charpete were sickly and weak, unable to even pick up their spears and swords for the bursting of buboes and the weakening of bones. The nobles and magnates of Malatya looked out over their city and the countryside surrounding, the location of that great battle not too long ago, as the sickly groans of pestilential peasants rose up into the great blue sky. However, something unique about the eastern lands of the Sultanate, something which the lands to the west did not have, were mountain-dwelling nomads, relatively shielded from the ravages of the plague.

Due to the high mountain peaks of the Armenian Highlands and the Zagros range of western Iran, the Pestilence had some difficulty spreading to the east of Anatolia and Mesopotamia. Cities such as Tabriz, Mosul, Ardabil, Kermanshah, and others were just as surely devastated by the spread of the Pestilence, but the mountain and valley nomads kept their distance from the cities, maintaining their herds of sheep and goats and protecting themselves from the Pestilence, for the most part at least.

These nomads were a very diverse bunch, a mix of Arabs, Turcomen, Yazidis, and, most importantly, that group known as the Kurds. The Kurds were not a truly united people like their linguistic brethren the Yazidis are, but rather the term “Kurdish” is used simply to describe all manner of Iranian-speaking nomads, “dwellers in tents” as they were also referred to. Kurds had, in centuries past, become very prominent in the affairs of the middle east, for Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub was of Kurdish origin, and the glorious dynasty which he established in Egypt and al-Sham was of the same descent. However, with the destruction of the family of Salah ad-Din and the construction of the government of slaves in Egypt, the Kurds have returned to their more ancient state, that of nomads of the Armenian Highlands, the Zagros, and al-Jazira.

There are few records of the very beginning of the process that would become known as Kurdification, for the officials in the cities cared little for the migration of nomads in the wilderness and countryside. It can be safely assumed that the fields left empty by the sudden die-off of the rural peasantry quickly became fallow over the years of the Pestilence, and after decades of abandonment the once fertile fields turned over to grassy pastures, spreading out from the cities in all directions. The journal of the Pontic merchant Cyrus Alexopoulos describes what he saw when traveling to the city of Malatya from his base in Trebizond:
“The roads which lead to Melitene are ragged, with flagstones broken and grasses
reaching toward the sky above, and the farmsteads for all around are ruined and
collapsed. When I began my career, such things would cause worry, for fear of bandits
or of marauders, but none remain in the countryside today. At least our horses can feast
on the unkempt grasses. Nothing was lost or stolen. The city’s walls can be seen in the
distance, only a parasang away.”

As the cities receded, the nomads expanded, and it is with this that the Kurds came to dominate the countryside. Eastern Anatolia became a sea of nomadism with occasional dots of settled life, cities of Turks, Romans, and Armenians surrounded on all sides by Kurds and those of other groups that became subsumed by the Kurdish culture. By the 1450s, the territory of Iranian-speakers in eastern Anatolia would reach deep into the Armenian Highlands, and almost reaching past the Euphrates in the east. This rapid expansion of the nomadic culture would have many downfalls however: as the Pestilence abated, the peasants attempted to return to their fields, fields which had long ago turned over to pasture for Kurdish goats and sheep. Clashes between Turcoman peasants and Kurdish nomads were not an uncommon sight, and numerous concessions had to be made to the nomads for the central government at Iconium to extract even a modicum of agricultural production out of the east.

While it has not been examined in as much scholarly depth as it could be, the relationship of the strange Yazidis to this Kurdification process of the 14th and 15th (8th and 9th) centuries is a complex and fascinating one. While Muslim Kurds were just as likely to attack the Yazidis for their “devil-worship” as any Arab or Turcoman was, Yazidi population boomed just as much as that of Muslim Kurds. Yazidi temples from this period are found in the mountains around Malatya and Erzurum, indicating a spread of such groups that far north. Many Yazidi priests today have interesting things to say regarding the Kurdification, believing that the expansion of the Yazidis was, in part, due to their descendance from Shehid bin Jer and the auspices of Tawuse Melek, giving fortune and fertility to the Yazidis of the highlands, for a time at least.

Just as the nomadic ancestors of the Turcomen had flown into the valleys and lowlands of Anatolia three centuries before, so now the Kurds expanded into the valleys and mountains of the eastern highlands, bringing with them goats and sheep just as much as horses and conflict.
 
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As the cities receded, the nomads expanded, and it is with this that the Kurds came to dominate the countryside. Eastern Anatolia became a sea of nomadism with occasional dots of settled life, cities of Turks, Greeks, and Armenians surrounded on all sides by Kurds and those of other groups that became subsumed by the Kurdish culture. By the 1450s, the territory of Iranian-speakers in eastern Anatolia would reach deep into the Armenian Highlands, and almost reaching past the Euphrates in the east.

While it has not been examined in as much scholarly depth as it could be, the relationship of the strange Yazidis to this Kurdification process of the 14th and 15th centuries is a complex and fascinating one. While Muslim Kurds were just as likely to attack the Yazidis for their “devil-worship” as any Arab or Turcoman was, Yazidi population boomed just as much as that of Muslim Kurds. Yazidi temples from this period are found in the mountains around Malatya and Erzurum, indicating a spread of such groups that far north. Many Yazidi priests today have interesting things to say regarding the Kurdification, believing that the expansion of the Yazidis was, in part, due to their descendance from Shehid bin Jer and the auspices of Tawuse Melek, giving fortune and fertility to the Yazidis of the highlands, for a time at least.


So does this mean that the Kurds will expand further than they did in OTL, also will this Kurdification also affect the Rum Sultanate in ethnic makeup.
 
So does this mean that the Kurds will expand further than they did in OTL, also will this Kurdification also affect the Rum Sultanate in ethnic makeup.

Yes and yes! The area of Kurdish inhabitation goes much further north than it does IOTL, and it reached that far north quite earlier than it did IOTL. However, there is major overlap between areas of majority Kurdish population and majority Armenian population, and Armenians are by far the more politically dominant and cohesive of the two. This greatly changes the population dynamics of the Sultanate of Rum, as will be seen over the upcoming centuries!
 
Yes and yes! The area of Kurdish inhabitation goes much further north than it does IOTL, and it reached that far north quite earlier than it did IOTL. However, there is major overlap between areas of majority Kurdish population and majority Armenian population, and Armenians are by far the more politically dominant and cohesive of the two. This greatly changes the population dynamics of the Sultanate of Rum, as will be seen over the upcoming centuries!

I thought as much. Though I am willing to believe their will be more ethnic/ religious conflict developing in the future as a result. Heck it could even lead to a truce between ethnic assyrians and Armenians.
 
Perhaps Western Anatolia and the Levant if it comes under Rum's control will become a cultural and religious melting pot. That would be interesting.
 
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