The Sport of Kings

The Wars of Religion (Part 2)

1606-1610

Swedish-Polish Civil War

King Sigismund b 1566
- elected King of Poland 1587 (maternal descent)
- succeeds his father Johann III as King of Sweden 1592

He initially adopts a 'Scottish Policy' neutral stance, but by 1605 is clearly planning to move away from this, and is even airing proposals for an 'Eastern Crusade' (against the Burgundians in the Holy Roman Empire)

1606 Sweden breaks away
Sigismund's brother John, Duke of Ostergotland (b 1589) refuses the Riksdag's offer of the crown, and they offer it to his uncle Carl instead who accepts as King Carl IX

Sigismund fights for his birthright, and musters the armed forces of Poland.
His fleet smashes the Swedish naval force and he lands in Sweden

Bohemian Revolt - United to Poland since 1555 (reversion on the death of Frederick, Duke of Austria) the nobility favour the Collegiate side and take the opportunity of Sigismund's absence in Sweden to declare independence, an aristocratic republic in all but name, under a senior noble as Protector

Sigismund re-unites Sweden with Poland under his rule, Charles IX and his eldest son being slain in battle


England-France and Burgundy/Holy Roman Empire go onto the offensive

Burgundian forces take Provence and thus sunder the Iberian Crusaders in Languedoc from their Italian allies. As a consequence, the Crusader army in Languedoc begins to fall back

In the New World, the Burgundian Navy goes on the rampage, seizing treasure fleets and supporting landing/invasions in South America

Burgundy/Holy Roman Empire fighting on two fronts against a hard-pressed Habsburg Kingdom of Italy
-1- via Provence
-2- through Switzerland at Austria (Tyrol/Styria)

England-France crushes the Bourbon rebels
They drive the Crusaders out of Languedoc, invade Navarre-Aragon, take Toulouse and occupy Roussillon-Cerdagne (and note I can now spell Roussillon ! 2 l's and 2 s's !)


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The Wars of Religion - Part 3

1611-1615

The Pope forms the League of Rome - Savoy, Italy, Genoa, Tuscany, the Papal States and Naples

Bavaria has tried to maintain a 'Scottish Policy' of neutrality but increased Burgundian pressure to commit to the Imperial position of Collegiatism forces a crisis

Bavaria throws its weight behind the Pope, joining the League of Rome
The Pope now has enough Electors to form a credible rump Diet and depose Charles of Burgundy as Holy Roman Empire, electing the Habsburg King Maximilian of Italy as Emperor Maximilian II

Civil war ensues within the Empire

Italy invades Provence, backed by League forces

League and Polish forces combine to crush Bohemia
and severely press Burgundy on its Eastern Holy Roman Empire frontier

Navarre-Aragon and Castile-Portugal Crusader army retakes Toulouse and Roussillon-Cerdagne and probe Languedoc but fail to link up with Italian/League forces in Provence

Castile is borrowing heavily from Genoese and Milanese bankers, and has succeeded in rebuilding a strong army, and creating a sufficient fleet to protect the bullion shipments from the Americas, challenging Burgundian naval forces in the Indies on an equal footing


1612 Tsar Basil IV Shuiski (b 1550 ascended 1606) dies after a chaotic reign
A National Convention elects Michael Romanov as Tsar, he ascending the throne in 1613, ruling jointly with his father Theodore until the latter's death in 1633


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The Wars of Religion - Part 4

116-1620

Denmark enters the war on the Collegiate side
Its fleet dominates the Baltic and it soons cuts Poland off from Sweden

Danish army under Christian IV (b 1577 ascended 1588) leads a Central German thrust
He is killed 1618 on the field of victory in Bavaria
Accession of his son as Christian V (b 1603)

Danish army continues, forming the bulk of the Burgundian/Holy Roman Empire Eastern wing thrusting into Italy

Burgundy/Holy Roman Empire allies with the Ottoman Empire.
Ottoman forces 'liberate' Bohemia, smash the Poles and sack Prague before withdrawing
But the aim has been achieved : Sweden-Poland is effectively out of the war in the East and the League is now on its own

England/France's navy is now supporting the Burgundians in the New World
An English fleet captures the Castilian bullion fleet, and England/France launches several adventures in the New World, including the conquest of Jamaica

Burgundy/Empire forces press into Savoy and take Genoa
Danish and Empire forces over-run Austria (Tyrol/Styria) and take Milan

Collapse of the Southern fronts

Castile is bankrupt, cut off from Italian finances and with no bullion due to England-France and Burgundy's rampages

Two-pronged invasion of Iberia by England/France
-1- into the Basque provinces of Castile, cutting off the Basque ports
-2- into Catalonia aimed at Barcelona

Rebellion breaks out in Portugal

In Catalonia rebels takes control of Barcelona and offr to treat with England-France in the name of 'Ricardo V Plantagenet', the Burgundian-born heir to the exiled Richard IV

In Castile-Portugal, the Prince of the Asturias is gathering a 'pragmatic court' around him in Valladolid, looking for a way to end the war

The Habsburg kingdom of Italy is the last bastion holding out in 1620

England-France commits a third army, under the Howard Earl of Nottingham, to the Italian theatre

Overwhelmed, the Italians suffer twin defeats (to Anglo-Burgundians and to Danish-Imperial forces) in one month and collapse
The League dissolves in chaos

The war ends with the fall of Rome to Anglo-Burgundian forces


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The Wars of Religion (Part 5)

The Aftermath of Victory 1620+

Settlement of Rome
- the Pope is subordinated to the College in Zurich

The Papal States are destroyed
- Romagna is granted as a dukedom to a Burgundian Captain (general)
- Urbino is granted as a dukedom to the England/France commander, the Howard Earl of Nottingham

The Kingdom of Italy is dismembered
- Sardinia goes to ex-King Richard IV of Navarre in his lifetime, then to revert to Navarre-Aragon and his son Richard V
- Milan is appropriated by Jean Valois, younger son of King Charles IV of Burgundy/HR Emperor Charles VIII
- Austria (Tyrol/Styria) - the dukedom is granted to a minor Habsburg branch which had supported the Collegiate faction

Similarly
- in Savoy the succession is given to the Carignano branch who support the Settlement
- in Tuscany the Medici are deposed and a rival native family raised up, accepting the Settlement

Richard V of Navarre (b 1603 and brought up in the Burgundian court) is imposed as King of Navarre-Aragon, which suffers no territorial losses (despite pressure in London to annex Toulouse or Roussillon-Cerdagne) so as not to undermine his rule

ex-King Bernard II of Navarre-Aragon is imprisoned a while, then later allowed to go into exile in Naples

Richard V is also granted reversion to Sardinia (see above), though his father, aged 76 in 1620 contrives to live to the age of 90, not passing away until 1634

An attempt to remove the King of Naples and give the kingdom to Richard V of Navarre-Aragon proves a step too far and results in a short sharp war after which both sides compromise - Alessandro II is confirmed as king, but accepts the Settlement

Castile-Portugal sees the Prince of the Asturias' 'pragmatic' faction overthrow his father - Pedro IV (b 1550 deposed 1620 dies 1629) and Pedro V becomes king (b 1580)


1621
Edward, Prince of Wales (b 1606) marries Sophia (b 1601) sister of King Christian V of Denmark
In time they have four sons, thus filling out a Plantagenet line which had looked dangerously thin and seemed to be in danger of losing the succession to their Beaufort cousins who are numerous.
Sons of Edward and Sophia :-
-1- John, Duke of Normandy b 1622
-2- George, Duke of York, b 1625
-3- William, Duke of Cambridge, b 1631
-4- Thomas, Duke of Dorset, b 1635


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Looking good GW. Not much for me to comment on.

It seems to be an age of hyphenated monarchies : England-France, Scotland-Ireland, Navarre-Aragon, Sweden-Poland, Castile-Portugal !

I am assuming that in most places the realm that takes over will be the one whose name gets used colloquially, except with regard to Sweden and Poland where they will split up again

I can see Navarre becoming the dominant name for Navarre-Aragon (which after all includes the kingdoms of Mallorca, and later Sardinia once again), and for Castile-Portugal I can see general use of 'Castile' later changing to 'Spain'. I can also see 'Scotland' being generally in use instead of Scotland-Ireland, especially since the realm now includes the third kingdom of Man.

I have more of a problem with England-France, and whilst it was in existence Sweden-Poland, since the name would depend upon where one was (also ignoring of course the third and fourth realms of Lithuania and Bohemia).

In Sweden, one was in the Kingdom of Sweden whilst in Poland one was in the Kingdom of Poland, and what you brought to foreign affairs decided what you were known as in that sphere - eg if Poland brings an army into Bohemia then the realm is referred to as Poland rather than Sweden-Poland

England-France therefore is causing me the most headaches ! The state is as much a French one as an English one, and holding the French crown is as important to the Plantagenet kings as holding the English one. I am wondering if some over-arcing name such as the 'Dual Monarchy' might be used here, or perhaps (shock !) the 'United Kingdom' ?!

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Wow, great job GW!!

In the New World, the Burgundian Navy goes on the rampage, seizing treasure fleets and supporting landing/invasions in South America

I must confess I'm a little bit confused here. Where Burgundy has a coast ITTL?

Settlement of Rome
- the Pope is subordinated to the College in Zurich

Would this avoid Reformation and the division of Catholicism?

I am wondering if some over-arcing name such as the 'Dual Monarchy' might be used here, or perhaps (shock !) the 'United Kingdom' ?!

Why not? I worked for England and Scotland.:rolleyes:
 
Burgundy includes all of the Netherlands as it is the Burgundy of Charles The Bold continuing, and one assumes adding to itself as it goes along. It thus also includes all of the French duchy of Burgundy as its in unbroken male succession, and has formed a cohesive territorial unit. I imagine England's occasional territorial concessions to Burgundy have allowed it to consolidate its territories, and that marriage and other means have been used to add additional ones, perhaps in the Rhineland including Cleves and Julich in eventual succession

Burgundy's navy would thus be analogous to that of the Dutch in this period, and whilst starting from a probably smaller military base (Burgundy had no great need for a military fleet before this war) its merchant strength would be sufficient to provide a navy by the second phase of the war.

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Burgundy includes all of the Netherlands as it is the Burgundy of Charles The Bold continuing, and one assumes adding to itself as it goes along. It thus also includes all of the French duchy of Burgundy as its in unbroken male succession, and has formed a cohesive territorial unit. I imagine England's occasional territorial concessions to Burgundy have allowed it to consolidate its territories, and that marriage and other means have been used to add additional ones, perhaps in the Rhineland including Cleves and Julich in eventual succession

Burgundy's navy would thus be analogous to that of the Dutch in this period, and whilst starting from a probably smaller military base (Burgundy had no great need for a military fleet before this war) its merchant strength would be sufficient to provide a navy by the second phase of the war.

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Thanks very much!

So, if is possible a parallel with OTL, should we wait for a Burgundian invasion of Brazil?:eek::D
 
1620 - 1640 (A)

Holy Roman Emperor Charles VIII re-establishes Imperial rule over Northern Italy
- Savoy, Tuscany, Austria (Tyrol/Styria) are basically puppets
- Milan, Romagna, Urbino are basically vassals


Revolt of the Braganza in Portugal
- led by Theodosius II, Duke of Braganza (b 1568 d 1630)
and his sons John (b 1604 succeeds his father to the title 1630, k 1630), Edward (b 1605) and Alexander (b 1607)
plus Theodosius' brother Edward (b 1569) and his sons

The civil war drags on to 1630 when most of the above are dead, including Edward's sons, and the lastof the Braganza, Edward (b 1605) flees to exile in Paris, where he dies childless in 1649

Portugal is thus firmly back in the hands of Castile, and by 1640 the name 'Spain' is being used for the joint monarchy


Sigismund of Poland-Sweden refuses to accept the Settlement of Rome
A Polish schismatic church under a Crusader Pope is established at Krakow
A rival to Rome, this Pope calls for a new Crusade

Poland is assailed from various directions
- Tsar Michael Romanov repeatedly menaces Kiev, testing Poland's defences
- Sweden declares itself independent under Charles IX's second son, Charles X Philip (b 1601), his eldest son Gustavus Adolphus (b 1594) having perished alongside his father in Sigismund's reconquest of Sweden

Ottoman invasion of Poland
- fall of Krakow sees rival Pope flee to Warsaw
- c 1640 a general Polish collapse is in the offing

The Ottomans reach the Baltic . . .


Burgundy and Navarre

Charles III of Burgundy/VII as Holy Roman Emperor, b 1540, d 1604

-son- Charles IV/VIII b 1564 ascends 1604 d 1627
- - son- Charles V/IX b 1587 ascends 1627
- - son- Jean b 1588 created Duke of Milan 1620
- - - son- Jean of Burgundy-Milan b 1610
- - - dtr- Sophia of Burgundy-Milan b 1612

-dtr- Margaret b 1580 m Richard IV of Navarre (d 1634 aged 90)
- - son- Richard V of Navarre-Aragon b 1603 ascends 1620

1628 Sophia of Burgundy-Milan b 1612
marries
Richard V of Navarre-Aragon b 1603
They have three children
-1- Richard b 1630
-2- Sophia b 1632 m 1650 George, Duke of York b 1625
-3- Maria b 1635



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Grey Wolf
 
Thanks very much!

So, if is possible a parallel with OTL, should we wait for a Burgundian invasion of Brazil?:eek::D

My reference to Burgundian naval forces supporting landings/invasions in South America refers to EXACTLY that :) I think we're looking at the Guyanas and Bahia, but if you have better ideas/examples please let me know ! Sometimes my sources only briefly refer to thing...

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England-France 1620-1632

Peace brings problems of its own to England-France

A split develops in the Collegiate faction between Conservatives and Radicals (who later rename themselves Puritans)

Those who fought on the continent understand the practicalities and are Conservative at heart, with regard to further religious upheaval. This also uncludes the majority of France, as a battleground in the war. But many who left England to fight abroad did not return - lucrative pickings, settlement, even a dukedom for the Earl of Nottingham where many of his men settle

In England, many of the educated classes and the bureaucratic nobility cleave to Radicalism.

A Puritan faction develops aimed initially at the Beauforts (Lord Protector/Regent Somerset's son is now Duke of Somerset, and Regent in England for his cousin King George II). Allegations of Papalism and secret Crusader sympathies whip up a storm against them

1624
King George II dies on a Pilgrimage to Rome
- given that Rome and its surroundings had not properly recovered from having two victorious armies camping on them for a couple of years, its not a surprise that many visitors to Rome find it full of the destitute and disease is rife in the city. Frequent plagues sweep over it, one of which claims the King of England-France as a victim

Edward, Prince of Wales accedes as King Edward V (b 1606)
His first act is to try to confront the crisis brewing in England and he moves the royal court back to London where Queen Sophia gives birth to their second son, named George and created Duke of York

The Duke of Somerset hands over power to the young king but retires to his estates fuming, believing that the king didn't trust him and had believed the Puritans allegations

In France the aged war hero Jean VIII, Count of Armagnac is now Regent in Paris

Unguarded comments by Somerset come to the Puritans' attention and, much embellished, are published as furious tirades in pamphlets, creating riots in London and several other cities

Summoned to court, Somerset pleads his innocence but agrees to go into voluntary exile to defuse the situation. He takes ship for Sweden where he takes a commission in King Charles X Philip's army and aids the fight against Sigismund of Poland

Edward V appoints one of his father's ex-army commanders, the Hastings Duke of Huntingdon as Regent in London and reutns to Paris on the death of Jean VIII of Armagnac in 1628. The old hero is given a resplendant funeral which is attended by much of the nobility of France and of Burgundy as well as by the Howard Duke of Urbino

Jean VIII is succeeded as Count of Armagnac by his grandson, Jean IX

1630 The marriage of Huntingdon's son and heir to a Beaufort princess re-ignites the volatile situation in England. A Puritan faction assassinates Huntingdon soon afterwards, and in the subsequent mass riots a Puritan Council briefly takes control of London and proclaims the doctrine of full independence for the Church and a complete break with Rome

Admiral, the Howard Earl of Suffolk, descends on London and chases them out, but the motley collection of troops at his command lose discipline and sack the city

The English Parliament, currently prorogued, convenes itself illegally and calls on the King to restore the rule of law

Edward V remains in Paris till after the birth of his third son, William (created Duke of Cambridge) in 1631 and returns to England to find himself facing a large and vocal Puritan faction within Parliament

He attempts to dissolve Parliament, considering its self-convening a grave insult to his honour, but this results in an armed uprising in several Midland counties and a running battle with the Radicalised population of London

Struck in the face and disfigured in an assassination attempt by a London butcher, Edward retires to Dover. He summons home the Duke of Somerset, who brings a Swedish contingent paid for by a grateful and now secure King Charles X Philip

Queen Sophia, Regent in Paris, raises a French army to go to her husband's aid


1632 Loyal nobles gather at Oxford and Edward V sends Somerset and his Swedes to join up with them

With the French army under the Duc de Montmorency, and supported by the fleet under Suffolk, Edward V advances personally on London


The English Civil War had begun...


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Grey Wolf
 
My reference to Burgundian naval forces supporting landings/invasions in South America refers to EXACTLY that :) I think we're looking at the Guyanas and Bahia, but if you have better ideas/examples please let me know ! Sometimes my sources only briefly refer to thing...

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Grey Wolf

Probably Brazil is the best choice. There was not gold, but sugar, and according to the prices of sugar in the early 17th century, it was almost as "white gold". Pernambuco and Bahia were not well protected against invasions. The problem the Dutch had OTL to secure Pernambuco was their failure to submit the Portuguese farmers. The Dutch had the cities, but not the countryside, that was the real source of power in the sugar plantation sistem. When the farmers really decided to go against them, they were lost. You can avoid this sending settlers to occupy the lands of the Portuguese.
 
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Probably Brazil is the better choice. There was not gold, but sugar, and according to the prices of sugar in the early 17th century, it was almost as "white gold". Pernambuco and Bahia were not well protected against invasions. The problem the Dutch had OTL to secure Pernambuco was their failure to submit the Portuguese farmers. The Dutch had the cities, but not the countryside, that was the real source of power in the sugar plantation sistem. When the farmers really decided to go against them, they were lost. You can avoid this sending settlers to occupy the lands of the Portuguese.

That sounds like a good idea - Burgundy would certainly have the resources for it and Castile-Portugal is in no position to dispute it for a decade even after the end of the wars.

I still think there would be SOME settlement in the Guyanas, especially as the Caribbean was one of the main foci of the naval war in the Americas

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The English Civil War

1632-1635 The English Civil War

Edward V takes London but Parliament removes itself to Nottingham

Edward punishes London by officially sanctioning his French army to sack the city (dismissing Montmorency's protestations); Edward gains much satisfaction from watching it burn

He advances into the Midlands

Parliament, appalled by events in London, calls for the deposition of the king and the elevation of the young John, Prince of Wales (b 1622) to King under a Regency Council of their choosing


King Robert V of Scotland-Ireland (son of Robert IV) takes advantage of the English chaos to invade the North and seize the Isle of Man. His forces sack Newcastle before returning laden with booty

Edward V takes out loans to pay for Burgundian captains to hire their naval strength to him. They destroy the Scottish fleet and ravage Fife, sacking Edinburgh in 1633

Robert V sues for peace, but holds onto Man


Edward V and his joint army press into the Midlands, leaving Suffolk as commander in London - his ruthless suppression of discontent earns him the name Suffolk The Slayer

Montmorency is badly wounded in the Battle of Nottingham and is sent to Paris to convalesce. Somerset assumes command of the joint army

By 1634 the Puritan rebels are in disarray. Montmorency, recovered, is made Regent of France and Queen Sophia joins her husband at Warwick as Edward V prepares his final campaign


1635 sees the brutal extermination of all remaining Puritan strongholds
Queen Sophia gives birth to her fourth son, Thomas (created Duke of Dorset)


1636 Edward V summons Parliament to Oxford
It pledges allegiance and raises a 'fine' as a 'gift' to the king, which he uses to pay off the Burgundian naval captains and make good the loans taken out in Antwerp

Leaving Suffolk as Regent and Somerset as army commander, Edward V takes leave of England, removing his court to Paris where Queen Sophia and the children accompany him


1637 Edward V and John (b 1622), Prince of Wales journey to Rome, leaving Queen Sophia as Regent in Paris


1639 Edward V returns to Paris
He makes a brief journey to London where he creates Suffolk a duke and returns to Paris

For the remaining 16 years of his reign, Edward V never again sets foot in England


King Edward V of England-France
born 1606
acceded 1624
dies 1655



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Grey Wolf
 
Wow, great job GW!!


Would this avoid Reformation and the division of Catholicism?

I left this question until after I had posted the English Civil War so my answer made more sense :)

Two divergent opinions emerge from the Collegiate Settlement

One is the schismatic Polish church with a Crusader Pope in Krakow which basically rejects the Settlement and calls for a return to how things were before

The other is epitomised by the Puritans of the English Civil War who don't think the Settlement has gone far enough and call for a complete break with Rome

By 1640 both groups are suffering badly, the Puritan cause dimished by their devastating defeat in England and tarnished elsewhere by association with this, and the schismatic Polish church in disarray after the fall of Krakow to the Ottomans


I have a post on the New World and the Holy Roman Empire I hope to get up later tonight, as the library is open till 1/4 to 7, but for now I must wander off until the computers become free again. Thanks for all the comments and useful suggestions !

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Grey Wolf
 
Agreed a really good job, enjoyed the English Civil War.
Might not Edward or Suffolk have done something else against the Scots, they did sack Newcastle after all.
I know the mercenaries sacked Edinburgh but might Edward having just won a war think he could do more.

Enjoying this alot though
 
The New World and Holy Roman Empire 1500-1640

1640

With the Ottomans on the Baltic, Holy Roman Emperor Charles IX (King Charles V of Burgundy) (born 1586) and King Christian V of Denmark (b 1603 @1618) lead a joint army against them


Notes on the New World and The Empire : 1500 - 1640


OTL a united Spain had Aragon's financial, military and personnel resources.
BUT due to the Habsburg inheritance AND Aragonese inheritance it had massive financial outgoings which came primarily from the crown of Castile, which also contracted the massive debt

Conquest in the Americas was very much a private affair, the bravery of the Conquistadores and the enterprise of independent merchants etc, rather than paid for with government finances.

Settlement in the Americas came mainly from within Castile

So, in this ATL things balance out. Castile has less resources (though Aragon contributed IIRC 1/5 only of Spain's revenues) but less outgoings, and we can allow the New World to go more or less as per OTL

The main differentation comes in the 1600-1620 Wars of Religion, and to an extent in the 10 years following it during the civil war in Portugal which takes up most of Castile's attention.
- first with the Burgundians ravaging the Indies, seizing bullion fleet and making landings and invasion in South America
- then with England-France effectively blockading the Americas, seizing bullion fleets, seizing Jamaica etc

As part of the 1620 peace Castile-Portugal will have to accept these territorial losses, and in the ten years from 1620-1630 it is no position to challenge Burgundian exploitation of its new colonies, settlement in Pernambuco, Bahia and the Guyanas etc

Portugal remains part of the joint kingdom after 1630 and after the extermination of the Braganza rebellion the crown of Portugal is merged more fully with that of Castile. This brings about a merger of Castile's empire with that of Portugal's.

By mid-century the joint kingdom is generally becoming known as 'Spain', mainly as a result of the general use of 'Navarre' for the neighbouring kingdom of Navarre-Aragon, which removes the objections of many who had contested that there could be no Spain without Aragon, for now there is no Aragon on the national map of Europe


The Holy Roman Empire

In 1511 the Teutonic Order of Knights which had been established in Prussia sicne 1229 elected Albrecht of Hohenzollern-Ansbach as Grand Master

OTL in 1625 he secularised the Order, married and took Prussia as a dukedom as a vassal of the King of Poland

In the ATL the Reformation takes the form of a Catholic Reformation, eventully emerging (aka OTL's Counter Reformation) with policies to address multiple benefices, absenteeism, ignorance of the clergy, reform of the liturgy, the preaching of sermons and the problem of co-habitation

The Teutonic Order thus survives and after Grand Master Albert's death in 1568 elects a non-Hohenzollern successor

By this time its fortunes, in the decline by the start of the 16th century, have changed rapidly. Vienna's fall to the Ottomans in 1529 provided a wake-up call and the absorption of the rest of Hungary brought the Ottomans to the Polish borderlands

With a general invasion underway, the Pope declared a Crusade and for 5 years (1550-1555) campaigns across Poland finally succeeded in driving the Ottomans out, but confirmed their possession of Vienna and Hungary

The Teutonic Order which had grown during the Crusade and fought a large part with distinction is granted lands in Galicia

In time it translates these into a large sovereign holding in Galicia, surrendering all of Prussia except Konigsberg to the King of Poland

The Teutonic Knights provide an effective barrier to further Ottoman aggression and form one wing of Poland's defences against them, the other being anchored on possession of Bohemia (acquired by 1555 by reversion on the death of Frederick, Duke of Austria)

These defences hold, though the secession of Bohemia threatens it in 1606, but this kingdom is later regained by Poland

The involvement of the Ottomans in the Wars of Religion blasts Poland's position vulnerably open. Bohemia is ravaged and Prague sacked, though the Ottomans withdraw and a weakened native rule resumes control of the kingdom, its independence within the Holy Roman Empire being confirmed by the 1620 peace.

But Poland is in turmoil, with a schismatic Crusader church and a Pope in Krakow, Sweden achieving its independence, and Michael Romanov of Russia menaching Kiev

The late 1630s sees an Ottoman invasion. The Teutonic Knights battle to hold them back, but with Poland's attention divided are not properly supported, Poland's main army trying to defend Krakow.

1640 sees the Teutonic Knights annihilated as a military force, Galicia over-run, Krakow fall and the schismatic Pope fleeing to join the king in Warsaw where they are promptly besieged by one wing of the Ottoman army, the other surging North to the Baltic at Danzig.

The Teutonic Order exists now only in Konigsberg with a token surviving military force


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In 1637 the last Duke of Pomerania dies and (as far as I can see in a claim dating back to c1200 AD !) the Elector of Brandenburg assumes the succession as his right

In this ATL Brandenburg has no claim on Prussia at all, nor on Cleves and Julich (or Mark or Ravenstein) because in OTL the Elector's claim came through the marriage of the Duke of Prussia (former Grand Master Albrecht) to their heiress, transmitted through his grand-daughter to the main Electoral line. Here there IS no Duke of Prussia, Albrecht remaining a celibate Grand Master

It is far more likely that a King of Burgundy would contract this marriage to the heiress of Cleves and Julich instead and Burgundy eventually acquire the territories for itself

This need not change the descent of the Electors of Brandenburg too much, in fact, as it was Joachim Frederick (d 1608) whose second wife was the granddaughter of the Duke of Prussia, and he had an heir from his first marriage, John Sigismund (b 1572)

It is only with John Sigismund that the ATL Margraves of Brandenburg change as he also married a granddaughter of the Duke of Prussia in OTL. Here he would contract a different marriage, and it wouldn't be too far-fetched for this to be to a daughter of King Charles III of Burgundy/Emperor Charles VII whose children are in date of birth from 1564 to 1580 (Margaret, the youngest who married the deposed Richard IV of Navarre)

Thus we could say, Elector John Sigismund of Brandenburg (b1572 @1608) marries Anne of Burgundy (b 1574). John Sigismund dies in 1619 and is succeeded by his eldest son, born in 1595

OTL his son was called George William (I know not why) but in the ATL it seems more likely he would have Charles in his name as a nod to his maternal Burgundian heritage

Thus let us call him, Elector Charles William (b 1594 @ 1619) and it is he who in 1637 advances the claim to Pomerania and in this ATL gains all of it for Brandenburg (OTL he had to share it with Sweden)

We can posit that Charles William's Brandenburg had been an early Collegiate power and a staunch ally and supporter of Burgundy in the 1600-1620 Wars of Religion

We can allow Elector Charles William (b 1595 @1619) to make an equivalent to OTL, to a princess of the Palatinate (presumably an ATL analogue of the OTL one) in c 1616

Again we can posit a son born around 1620, who succeeds on the death of his father in 1640. We can probably go with the name Frederick William as well

Thus, in 1640, Elector Frederick William of Brandenburg will be found alongside Holy Roman Emperor Charles IX and King Christian V of Denmark in leading an army against the Ottomans in the Baltic

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Since Charles IX is leading an Imperial army it would also contain contingents from many other Holy Roman Empire states. Saxony would be obvious, as a state menaced directly by the putative collapse of Poland, and the same for Bohemia, though it is likely that they have not fully recovered from the wars, especially from their Ottoman 'liberation'.

Bavaria, Austria (Tyrol/Styria) and Savoy, whose rulers all owe their positions entirely to the Empire (junior branches propelled to rule by the Settlement of 1620) would be obliged to send contingents

The situation within Poland would be chaotic. The schismatic King and Pope have fled to Warsaw and are holding out against a siege, whilst the main Ottoman thrust was to the West, attaining Danzig on the Baltic

In the East the vassal Duke of Kurland will have an intact force, and also a naval contingent to hand. In something of an ironic move, considering recent history, Sweden is probably sending a contingent to serve alongside this army !

In the South-East, Tsar Michael Romanov sees no gain from Christian unity and lays siege to Kiev...


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Grey Wolf
 
Agreed a really good job, enjoyed the English Civil War.
Might not Edward or Suffolk have done something else against the Scots, they did sack Newcastle after all.
I know the mercenaries sacked Edinburgh but might Edward having just won a war think he could do more.

Enjoying this alot though

It would probably have been over-stretch, and not necessarily gained anything - Edinburgh after all has been sacked in retaliation already, and the only way to reclaim the Isle of Man would be to invade it, which would require a fleet to take control of the Irish Sea

In addition, Edward has a mind to not over-extend the finances - the example of Castile in the Wars of Religion is still fresh in the mind

Additional to this, the majority of the army is either French or Swedish, with English loyalist nobles. The French have no problem fighting in England, after all it makes a change for France to put down a revolt in England rather than vice-versa, but pushing North to invade Scotland with little reasonable hope of success would stretch their loyalty. The Swedes are going home, whatever, having done their duty (debt of honour) and the English nobles are needed to hold down and administer England.

However, Robert V's actions have done one thing, and that is to remind England-France that they have a dangerous potential enemy on their Northern doorstep, something they were in danger of forgetting...

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Ggrey Wolf
 
A Livonian/Courland Problem

I've been trying to unravel the history behind :-

http://depts.washington.edu/baltic/papers/duchy.html

I guess the Livonian Order would not have been secularised either, so instead of the Duke of Kurland/Courland, we see the Grand Master of the Livonian Order enter the fray...

At this point it probably doesn't matter too much. Historically, Courland's naval strength did not emerge until later in the seventeenth century, but the duchy (as was) possessed two shipyards and had a trading presence, so we can posit that the Order possesses SOME naval strength, and anyway naval strength in a campaign in the Baltic against the Ottomans is probably a moot point

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