Hey I hope in time to create a big AU Timeline based on a POD after Lepanto 1571. Feel free to chime in with ideas. In the end I want the 1591 Map to look about like this.
It's difficult to understand the changes in the Hispano-Portuguese border, Hispano-Portuguese cooperation wouldn't be possible on the circunstances causing the border change.Eventualy a pact is formed with Portugal and Venice against the various Muslim states in the region.
If you want a Spain more mediterranean centered, you need an earlier POD. Probably with no Hapsburg in Spain: survival of Juan (son of Isabel and Ferdinand), survival of Miguel da Paz (grandson of Isabel and Ferdinand and heir to the crowns of Spain and Portugal, this one is quite interesting).
Fifth, in OTL, Spain DID do this and got their asses kicked.
Spain sent several rather large fleets through the Mediterranean in an attempt to capture Greece, but all of them failed. Just look at Lepanto- a massive battle where the Spaniards (okay, Holy League) managed to actually DEFEAT the Ottomans, and even then they still couldn't do much else and the Ottomans had managed to rebuild their entire fleet within a year.What do you mean with DID do this?
Spain sent several rather large fleets through the Mediterranean in an attempt to capture Greece, but all of them failed. Just look at Lepanto- a massive battle where the Spaniards (okay, Holy League) managed to actually DEFEAT the Ottomans, and even then they still couldn't do much else and the Ottomans had managed to rebuild their entire fleet within a year.
Seriously? I was under the impression that they attempted an attack on Morea at least once during that period- tried to attack some place named Kodon or summat, but were defeated by an Ottoman fleet in some bay out somewhere.In fact Spain never attempted that. Just the occupation of some islands.
Seriously? I was under the impression that they attempted an attack on Morea at least once during that period- tried to attack some place named Kodon or summat, but were defeated by an Ottoman fleet in some bay out somewhere.
It's early in the morning, I'm not fully awake yet.
The Gran Armada was a fully attempted invasion. Do you really thing that Spain was trying to get Greece? Well, I fully agree with Abdul Hadi Pasha on almost everything, but not in thatSeriously? I was under the impression that they attempted an attack on Morea at least once during that period- tried to attack some place named Kodon or summat, but were defeated by an Ottoman fleet in some bay out somewhere.
It's early in the morning, I'm not fully awake yet.