Yeah, I'm not going to count Twantinsuyu out. It's already motivating me to do a Inca playthrough on Civ 5.
The Sons of Inti Shall Not Perish
- Thread starter King of the Uzbeks
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Well who could unite the empire to fight against the Spanish in your mind then?
Hmmm, Castro's getting ready to March on the mountains you say. Play the cards right and even Quisquis can't screw this up.
I *suspect* we're heading for a split Incan Empire... a northern (and coastal?) puppet under Spanish influence based out of Quito and a southern (and mountain?) independent state based out of Cusco...
Things sure have been wild since ol' Wayne C. kicked the bucket.
Quispe Tupac's probably all like:
I did this instead of studying.
Quispe Tupac's probably all like:
I did this instead of studying.
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This sounds and feels eerily like some serious Divergences shenanigans (if people remember that Vicky II mod).
I think that it is still possible for the Spanish to hump the bunk! one nasty misstep and you get plenty of traitors going hey my Inca how about I help train your army? or maybe the Portuguese or English could turn up and go here is some gunpowder and scrap iron fancy gifting us some Silver and Gold?
There will come a moment when the Tiwantinsuyu will realize that the only thing the Europeans care about is gold or silver. And there will come a time, not long after that, when they realize that there are a lot of Europeans willing to kill other Europeans, in exchange for gold or silver.
I don't think there will be two Inca empires/remnants: there will be one with gold and silver that will recover, and there will be a Spanish colony.
I don't think there will be two Inca empires/remnants: there will be one with gold and silver that will recover, and there will be a Spanish colony.
Do you really think Murphy would do that? Just shift the bad luck to the Spanish?
Well, there's no such thing as "good luck" or "bad luck" that adheres to one person or another: it's just that at this point there are more things that can go wrong for the Incas (disease, succession troubles, subject people's revolt, divided command) than the Spaniards, and that improves the odds in Castro's favor. Given that the name of the TL is "The Sons of Inti shall not Perish" (Edit: and we've been told there will be at least one more Inca-Spanish war) I however expect at least part of the Inca empire is going to survive this. After all, Castro only needs to really muff things up once to lose his chance at big brass/gold ring.
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In the meantime, Atiq Yupanki, Willaq Umu (High Priest), shaman of the 7th level of initiation, set out to travel to the god Wiraqucha to tell him in a personal meeting the truth about the difficult times in Tawantinsuyu. Atiq Yupanki ordered to bury him alive at the top of Mount Waskaran (Huascaran). And as soon as his disciples, after fulfilling the will of the teacher, drowning in tears, descended from the mountain, a powerful thunderstorm broke out...
Perhaps.
As an aside You should all totally read up on OTL Manco if you haven't already.
What is conquest? Different things to different people.
The T.S. should be well aware of what tuberculosis meant -- considering it existed in the Americas long before European contact
*smoke bomb*
Do eeet
Poor Quisquis
First he faces a new and improved Spanish invasion, now he has 2 teenagers going "MINE MINE MINE!" over the Empire.
Civil War can be a crazy thing.
Things sure have been wild since ol' Wayne C. kicked the bucket.
Quispe Tupac's probably all like:
I did this instead of studying.
The Sons of Inti Shall Not Perish indeed...though as @Jon the Numbat pointed out even under foreign rule the people of the Empire would fare better then OTL.
Hwut.
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I wanted illustrate the mentality of the Incas. They had human sacrifices, but their concept had nothing to do with the cultures of Mesoamerica. Sacrifices were not regular but conducted in the event of serious cataclysms. Innocent little girls from noble families were sacrificed, they were buried alive at the top of the mountain. It was believed that girls could reach the sky and tell the gods that the country was in trouble, and their help is required. During the Conquest, the military defeats and epidemics, of course, became the reason for direct appeal to the gods. But if girls did not help, the high priest had to go talk to the Sky personally.
It is also known that priests/shamans could have up to 7 initiation levels. In some of the native communities of the Andes, to obtain a high level of initiation, the shaman must be struck by lightning, and to obtain the highest level (altumisayuq) - to withstand three strokes of lightning.
Therefore, I сould not exclude the possibility that shamans of the Andes have or had some special techniques of working with lightning, giving a modified psychedelic state of consciousness and gaining some abilities during or after the strike.
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If we don't come out of this with some sort of Andean Amerindian state surviving into the 20th century, I shall be rather put out.