The Second Rise of the WCW...

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Hashasheen

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The World Championship Wrestling will always be remembered as the promotion that managed to humble the McMahon juggernaut and rule for two years straight over professional wrestling, the promotion that truly changed wrestling forever. The revolution started back in July 7, 1996, when ‘The Outsiders” Kevin Nash and Scott Hall teamed up with the legendary Hulk Hogan to defeat Randy Savage, Sting and Lex Luger. The creation of the New World Order had set the wrestling fandom ablaze. Why had Hulk Hogan, one of the greatest wrestlers of the generation turned heel? The answers to that would be found on Monday Night Nitro, in what would later be called the Monday Night Wars.

For the next four years, World Championship Wrestling was the greatest promotion in the United States, beating out both the World Wide Wrestling Federation and Extreme Championship Wrestling (both of the “Big Three”), and rapidly grew from a second-rate promotion to one with a large cult-like following. However, with a growing and aspiring fandom, came the defeats. WCW was a hotbed for talented veterans who had already had amazing runs in the WWEF, and many of whom had creative control placed into their contract, people like Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and many many more. This caused a top-heavy tier of heavyweights who refused to put over new wrestlers, and begin to grow stale as the WCW increasingly relied on the NWO to counter the WWF’s numerous angles and storylines based around new wrestlers such as Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Eddy Guerrero, and Chris Jericho, were swept away from WCW due to serious frustration with the booking committee.

It was a long road for Eric Bischoff, creator of the Monday Night Wars and the NWO storyline, despite the loud uproar ECW had originally had. As the company drew more and more inward into its home of Atlanta, Georgia, the young talent left in large numbers, and money became thin, very thin. In desperation, the executives of AOL Time Warner brought in Vince Russo, the self-proclaimed genius behind the Attitude Era that was shaming the WCW in the ratings.
What followed were nonsensical storylines, wasted title shots and often rapid face heel and heel face turns. Rapidly falling in the ratings, the executives added on Eric Bischoff in order to create a balance of the ideas the two men had in the hopes that the combined team could turn things around. They were wrong, and the WCW fell into such dire straights with an annual loss of $ 60 million, allowing the WWF to pick it up for less than $ 2.5 million in 2001, a pittance compared to its worth not two years earlier.

But the reality that once was can always be changed, can it not? Let’s head back to the year 2000, and the month of March, when the AOL Time Warner executives were fretting over what to do with Vince Russo’s booking style. More than tempted to sell the franchise to an interested party, the executives and Ted Turner especially would convene and agree after a lengthy argument to sell the promotion, which would remain on TNT and TBS for the near future while the buyer found a new network to hold the promotion. Now with a new handler to run WCW, and the problems of the WCW being slowly ironed out, the WCW hopefully stands to live much longer than 2001. But the question is, how long can this buyer keep the WCW going, with the WWF circling them like sharks in the water?

I guess you’ll just have to read to find out…
 
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Hashasheen

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Updated....

Monday Night Nitro said:
March 20, 2000
Hosted by Tony Schiavone and Mark Madden
Live from Gainesville, FL

Schiavone: Ladies and Gentlemen; welcome to a truly special edition of Monday Night Nitro. This is Tony Schiavone with Mark Madden here at the commentary table. Well, we’ve got a few minutes for the first match of the nights begins, and I want to talk about the upcoming Spring Stampede, which is going to be next week. Now, last month’s Uncensored was definitely a highlight in the WCW’s history and I’ve got a lot of hope for Slamboree to do the same. The Wall versus Bam Bam Bigelow was quite the matchup, and the twenty-foot high choke-slam nearly gave me a heart attack!

Madden: Yes, that was a decent match to fill up some time, but what I’m more interested in is the fact that World Championship Wrestling has a new owner! AOL Time Warner apparently sold the entire promotion to an anonymous buyer who will arrive tonight to introduce himself to the locker room and the rest of the employees.

Schiavone: Yeah, that’s all very exciting, but until the guy arrives, we’ve got nothing on him and Uncensored deserves some glossing over.
Madden: You got it, Tony. Well, the match-up between Three-Count and Brian Knobbs in a Hardcore Gauntlet Match kept me awake. Knobb has some serious skill as both a street fighter and a technical wrestler, which made him the new Hardcore Champion, and makes him a good representative as a WCW Hardcore Champion. And thank the Almighty for that, because the Freebird Rule just doesn’t work for the damn Hardcore title. Knobb’s gotta watch out for Terry Funk, though, that man is the epitome of hardcore in this business, and he’s hungry for a title-shot from what I hear.

Schiavone: I don’t know about Funk versus Knobb, as mind-blowing as it could be. The new owner might not be so eager for the Hardcore Championship to continue, seeing as how the WCW tends to focus on good old technical wrestling instead of the street-fights that the ECW puts out. Those matches tend to end up as- Looks like we’re starting for the night, as David Penzer enters the ring to announce the first match.

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David Penzer: Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like –

Suddenly, the WCW theme song breaks out, interrupting the announcer.

Madden/Schiavone: What?!?

Even as the commentators question the reason for the theme song to start, a young man enters the ring by leaping over the barricade and entering under the middle rope. Despite the attempts of security to hold him back, he flashes something before their eyes that allows him to continue forward. For a few more seconds the theme song continues while one of the confused arena staff steps up to provide the stranger with a microphone, all the while while Madden and Schiavone ask each other questions on who the mysterious person could be.

New Owner: I apologize for the interruption, Mr. Penzer, but I thought I’d get this out of the way while I could. (turns his attention to the crowd) Ladies and Gentlemen, I am Alexander Samuel Black, a citizen of the fine state of Rhode Island and the new WCW President! (small amounts of confused applause break out) If you would allow me but a few moments to address you and say a few words before the night really get started...

The crowd voices no obvious objections to it, and Alexander Samuel Black begins to speak, a smile on his face lifting the mood.

Alexander Black: “Like I said, my name is Alexander Samuel Black and I’m the new owner and President of World Championship Wrestling. I hail from the State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, and I grew up with professional wrestling as a staple of family time, thanks to my father being a major NWA/WCW fan. I didn’t spend a week without watching Ric Flair, the Von Erics, or any other major icon of the time, or having heard something about how a feud went.

So like many of you growing up, I was entranced with all the big names and heroes. And I still watch professional wrestling, though it’s not the same as it once was. I’ll follow up on WWF’s Steve Austin as he feuds with Vince McMahon or as the Undertaker beats up any and all comers at Wrestlemania. I’ll watch Tommy Dreamer and Raven mercilessly beat each other on ECW. I’ll even watch the latest rehash of the damn New World Order on WCW, though I tend to grow sick at the sight of it.

This business, this profession, this branch of sports is perhaps one of the most difficult to manage. There are the egos to assuage, there are the new stars to comprise with, there are the fans to entertain, and there is the product to produce. The WWE has been handing the WCW our collective asses for the last few months based on a few simple facts: Our inability to get over a single storyline and stop reusing it whenever we ran out of creativity, when we copy a promotion that does not even follow our style of wrestling.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I’m not promising to be the perfect president. I’m not saying I won’t make mistakes. But what I can promise you is that I won’t stoop to the level and idiocy previous management has managed to reach through their combined regimes. I will not let the older stars keep getting title shots for no reason but the mistaken belief they draw seats, I will not let every Championship we have be cheapened and lessened because its holders refuse to maintain their offices and the division it is in. And I will most certainly not let the parasites that have tainted this promotion to remain here any longer, while they do nothing but stay at home and collect their checks!

We will rebuild, we will restructure, and we will develop. But we will not go quietly into the night, we will not lie down and die, and we will most certainly not give up without a fight! As long as I hold the reins of power, you can be assured that the WCW will return to the centre of glory it once held!”

Major cheers accompany the end of the speech, with Black standing tall and smiling at the WCW loyalists. Raising his microphone one more time as the cheers died down, he turned to Penzer with a grin.

Alexander Black: Mr. Penzer, you have the floor. If anyone needs me, I’ll be seated with Mr. Heenan and Mr. Schiavone for the remainder of the night, watching the matches.

Black then slinks away from the ring, grabbing a metal stool and sitting himself right next to the two commentators.

Black: Gentlemen, good evening.

Madden: Boss.

Schiavone: So ... do we call you Mr. President, or...

Black: Mr. Black is fine; Mr. Schiavone. Same goes for you too, Mr. Madden.

Schiavone: Mr. Black, I must ask what are your plan for our prestigious promotion? I’m assuming you’ve got a mind as to how to deal with the issue of the whole Sid Vicious versus Jeff Jarrett conflict. The Harris Brothers and Scott Steiner did interfere in that match, and if Hogan hadn’t jumped in, Sid would have gotten the beating of a lifetime.

Black: Rest assured, Mr. Schiavone, Jarrett and his cronies will get their comeuppance.

The first match of the night begins. A match between Chris Candido and Lash LeRoux is set to go underway, with Candido speaking directly to the crowd about his hardships in life before LeRoux starts the match with a dropkick.

Candido and LeRoux continually trade blows, with Candido dominating most of the match up before LeRoux wows the crowd with the Bourbon Street Blues (Jabs followed by splits followed by a spinning clothesline) that is stopped by Candido, who pulls off a superplex from the top rope and finishing off the Ragin Cajun with a diving headbutt to achieve victory in his debut match on Monday Nitro. The celebrations are quickly interrupted by Jeff Jarrett and his cronies, The Harris Brothers and Scott Steiner as the four men run in from the crowd. Pounding the two men brutally as Black makes his way to the ring once more; they allow the two beaten wrestlers leave while the WCW president enters the ring.

Black: *sigh* Gentlemen. What can I do for you all? Something urgent, that could have waited in a more private location? Our fans pay to see wrestling, not gang warfare.

Jarrett: I demand a rematch with Sid Vicious at Slamboree. If Hogan hadn’t interfered, I’d be wearing the belt right now.

Black: And if the Harris Brothers hadn’t intervened, Hogan wouldn’t have had to, and Sid would still be wearing the belt.

Steiner: Hogan’s a washed out old man who keeps trying to regain what moments of glory he can. It took a single hit from a guitar to take him out at Uncensored.

Black: Then you wouldn’t mind facing him tonight’s main event for a real match?

Steiner: I’d be happy to bash his face in. (mediocre cheers occur)

Jarrett: Well that’s all fine and good for Scott, what about me?

Black: Well, let’s see ... You disqualified yourself by bringing in not one, not two, but 3 thugs to back you up against Vicious, who was handily winning the match at that point. You then proceed to attack another 2 wrestlers who have done nothing but promote this business and compound it by demanding I reward you for it.

Jarrett: You’re giving me the title shot.

Black (amused): Or what?

Jarrett (threateningly): Or you get a taste of what we did to Sid at Uncensored.

Black: That, or you could take a beating from the battalion of armed guards I hired especially for tonight.

The 4 men turn around wildly, finally noticing the arrival of dozens of heavily armed security guards flooding the ring arena. Turning again to confront Black, they find him slipping out of the ring and towards the entrance.

Black: My respect, my health, my standing as WCW president, you didn’t think I’d be so foolish to risk it all on a fistfight with you? I’m a businessman, not a wrestler!

The four men growl in anger as each takes a ring side to defend once the guards begin to move.

Black: Steiner, you get to stay in the building because you got a match to prepare for tonight. Harris and Harris, you’ve got the night off, but consider yourselves booked to defend the title at Spring Stampede in a rematch against the Mamelukes. As for you; Jarrett...

Jarrett turns to Black with apprehension in his eyes.

Black: I’ll leave it up to Vicious to decide if he wants to give you a rematch.

Jarrett starts screaming in rage, and without a moment’s haste, he leaps over the top rope to attack Black before being blocked by some of the security guards. Gerald and Patrick Harris rush to aid him, while Scott Steiner leaves to the locker room in all the chaos.

Madden: Well, we’ve got a match made for Spring Stampede next week, and it’s no less than a championship rematch between the Harris brothers-

Schiavone: who have been dragged out of the building by Black’s armed guards-

Madden: and the former champions the Mamelukes. But tonight, we’ve got Scott Steiner versus Hollywood Hogan!

Schiavone: New Blood versus Old School, time to see who comes out on top, later tonight!

Advertising break...

Second Match: a match between Hugh Morrus and “Screamin” Norman Smiley is set to start, the latter being escorted by The Demon. Smiley comes out to the ring in a Florida Gators jersey, much to the delight of the Gainesville crowd, who cheer him on. Morrus sees nothing funny about it, or anything else, as he pounded on the former hardcore champion, all the while as The Demon frantically paces the ropes. Morrus connects with No Laughing Matter (moonsault) for the win, and the crowd boos Morrus. As Morrus readies Smiley for a second No Laughing Matter, The Demon enters the ring and lays Morrus out with an enziguri and feeding him a DDT. The Demon helps Norman up and the two retire to the locker room as the crowd cheers on.

Third Match: The Hardcore Soldiers Brian Knobbs (Hardcore Champion) and The Dog enter the arena with their manager Fit Finlay for what is a rematch between Knobbs and Three-Count for the Hardcore Championship. The Dog and Fit Finlay are there for additional protection from the 3 men, in case they try anything. Referee Charles Robinson comes in and announces that the by executive decision, the Freebird Rule no longer applies to Three-Count, forcing them to pick among themselves. After a period of arguing, the three men agree to have Helms enter the ring, while they prowl around the ring.

The match goes back and forth as attempted leg drops and suplexes get superbly countered by the other, stretching the match onwards into the night. After a good 20 minutes worth of effort, the other two members of 3-count attempt to distract the referee; failing thanks to Knobbs allies, Fit Finlay and The Dog, who throw them out of the ring and continue to do battle up into the entrance as Knobbs reverses a final suplex from Helms and hits him with a neckbreaker to pick up the pin and retain his championship.

Promo: An break between the matches is done for a interviewing of Sting and Vampiro, who are currently feuding with Team Package. The Stinger says that he beat the crap of out of Luger yesterday at Uncensored, and that Vampiro would finish the job for him on that front, while he dealt with the Nature Boy.

Vampiro in turn rips of his cast, telling the The Total Package that he’s going to get revenge tonight.

Fourth match: The Mamalukes (who come out with smiles on their faces about the renewed titles shots) face off against the Harlem Heat 2000, who were the other tagteam to lose at Uncensored. The two tag-teams make constant tags and show off a variety of wrestling maneuvers that sets the crowd cheering whenever a suplex or DDT makes an impact. Finally, the Mamalukes pick up the victory and move to address the crowd.

Big Vito: now, we’re a bit tired and would love to take a 5 minute breather before having this conversation, but I’d like to thank Mr. Black for doing the right thing and giving us our rematch at Spring Stampede.
Johnny the Bull: The Harris Brothers got the titles off us by sheer luck, and it ain’t happening again at Stampede. Gerry, Pat, you two wait and see what the Mamalukes got ready for you!

Schiavone: Well, we’ve heard from the challengers for the Tag Team titles, and up next is our final match of the evening, Hollywood Hogan versus Scott Steiner!

Maddne: Can’t wait to see those two fight it out.

Fifth match: The Total Package (escorted by Elizabeth) facing off against Vampiro.

Package gets on the mic, telling Vampiro he’s going against someone too fast, too big and too experienced to make a difference. The arena goes black as Vampiro appears in the ring behind package, seizning the advantage from the get go. Luger retakes control with heavy kicks to the midsection, sending Vamp to the floor where he gets slammed into the steel steps by the veteran Package. After a powerful power-slam in the ring, Luger signals for the Torture Rack, unfortunately avoided by Vampiro who fights his way out of it and has him on the ropes. The Nature Boy runs in and distracts the referee, allowing Elizabeth to throw in a baseball bat that is used on Vampiro, giving him the victory by disqualification. As Package and Flair continue their attack, Sting enters the ring to make the save for the gothic one, knocking out Luger and starting his match with Ric Flair. Vampiro remains at ringside, nursing his injuries.

Sixth Match: Sting versus Ric Flair.

Sting doesn’t hesitate to pull out every move against Ric Flair to avenge the cowardly ganging up on Vampiro, sending him to the canvas at every opportunity. The fourteen time world champion is frustrated as he gives out everything he has to the Stinger who shrugs it off and counters The Nature Boy. The two re-enter the ring where Flair uses a distracted referee (putting away the baseball bat from earlier) to deliver a blow below the belt that is followed up by a series of chops across the chest.
The Stinger’s not going down though, and the crowd goes wild. Luger tries to pull a repeat of what Ric did for him minute ago, but Sting just takes them both on, dealing hell in a game of “Sting Pong”, throwing both men into the corners. Vampiro re-enters the ring to help out Sting as the tide begins to turn, sending Flair and Luger running out of the ring.
Vampiro and Sting hold their ground as the crowd cheers and Sting raises Vampiro’s arm in victory.

Promo: Sid Vicious steps out into the ring to generally positive applause to make his decision for Spring Stampede known.

Vicious: Yesterday at Uncensored, I did what I promised to do all along, which was to defeat Jeff Jarrett in the title match, despite the cowardly tactics he used. Now, the new management has made it clear that the tactics of Jeff Jarrett and the NWO will not be tolerated. That their ambushes and cowardly tactics do not to represent World Championship Wrestling. Now, Mr. Black has made it clear that the Harris Brothers will put their titles up on the line at Spring Stampede, and Steiner’s facing Hogan right after this. All’s that left is for Jeff Jarrett to pay the price.

While we all know that I would have still won it if Jarrett’s thugs hadn’t interfered, I want to silence any and all nay-sayers that might be out there. But at the same time, I need to be sure that his boys don’t try to interfere again. So at Spring Stampede, I will face Jeff Jarrett in a Steel Cage match!

A huge cheer from the fans emerges, and Sid waits for a few moments to bask in the spotlight before leaving to the locker room, allowing Hogan to emerge and await Big Poppa Pump.

Seventh match: Hollywood Hulk Hogan versus Scott Steiner.
Hollywood Hogan is the first one out, and awaits Scott Steiner, whose second arrival is received with boos and curses. Steiner and Hulkster keep throwing blows for much of the early match, being the staple of the entire match. Steiner goes for a couple of DDTs when Hogan is disoriented, but when Hogan “Hulks up” and starts cleaning house on Steiner, with Big Poppa Pump seemingly unable to effectively respond. Hogan keeps beating on Steiner, yelling that he shouldn’t have used the guitar. He choke-slams Steiner, a blow that leaves him on the ground and open for Hogan to use numerous strikes to the head and the ribs. The bell has been rung because Steiner’s in la-la land and while he’s technically the winner, he’s about to get a final guillotine leg drop courtesy of Hogan.
Or he was about to, as Rick Steiner enters from the crowd wielding a bat and beating the crap out of Hogan, sending him fleeing as Steiner stands triumphant next to his brother, the man who turned on him in ’98.

Raising his bat again while Scott comes too with the image of his brother above him seemingly ready to finish what Hogan started, Rick drops the bat and helps his brother up, hugging him with tears running down his cheeks as the two men reunite after 2 years of bitterness as Nitro fades to black.
 

Hashasheen

Banned
A little newsreport....
Prowrestling.com said:

Rumors that the World Championship Wrestling Promotion would be sold to a new buyer appear to be true. Appearing on Monday Night Nitro on March 20th, the new owner, one “Alexander Samuel Black” has promised to achieve new heights of glory for the WCW, and to refuse to allow problems remaining from the previous management to plague what was once the greatest wrestling promotion in the world. Though how a twenty-something year old Rhode Islander managed to gain the money to buy WCW, sweet-talk the notoriously difficult AOL Time-Warner executives and revive the dying WCW fans remains to be a mystery and is looking to stay as one as Black’s office refuses interviews.


With new management come new rules, new changes and new storylines. Rumors of an impending reboot for the WCW titles have been effectively squashed, and Vince Russo is no longer with World Championship Wrestling, which has also fired a slew of other dead-weight individuals that had a hand in the company. Diamond Dallas Page, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Ernest Miller and Scott Hudson are only the first people culled from the flock, and if rumors are true, will not be the last.

For those who actually do follow WCW’s Saturday Night, don’t look for it staying on syndication much longer. Alexander Black has openly stated that WCW must cut costs and downsize its bloated operations in order to maintain some level of solvency and budget balance, and in order to achieve that, Saturday Night must go, as will WorldWide, will be merged into a retooled show focused on presenting classic NWA/WCW matches in history, with Bobby “The Brain” Heenan doing the presenting. The show is to be called the WCW Vintage Collection, and may be a winner considering the wealth of matches had in the WCW archives, all the way back to the era of the NWA.
Also on the scene with a new president with money to burn is the paying of all outstanding debts to the numerous wrestlers, staff, the pay-per-view building owners but to name a few. Of the wrestlers fired, some were given a retirement package based on their remaining retired from the world of professional wrestling. It remains to be seen how many will truly retire, and how many will move onto work in the ECW or the WWF.

And with the new life from this breath of fresh air comes a more aggressive WCW recruiting campaign, intently focused on recovering wrestlers from the World Wrestling Federation who had left due to issues with the management or the storylines. Men like Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn and Chris Jericho are those suspected to receive the best offers and promises for their return.


And with the fact that many current veteran WCW wrestlers are either laid up with injuries, are being fired or are heading for higher pastures, the WCW is remarkably focused on rebuilding its mid-card as well as the champion divisions from the ECW as well. The recent storylines with newer, younger wrestlers showing up on Nitro instead of being relegated to Thunder bodes well for the future of the promotion, and in this writer’s esteemed opinion, the WCW seems ready for a comeback, one to destroy the WWE’s Attitude Era for good. We can only wish Mr. Black the best of luck in his endeavors to fell the McMahon juggernaut.
 

Quatermain

Banned
WCW could have risen from the ashes in 2001. Brian Bedol and Stephen Greenberg's Fusient Media Ventures was a hair away from buying WCW and re-installing Eric Bischoff as president, when AOL Time Warner canceled both Monday Nitro and WCW Thunder. Without the TV contracts, WCW was completely useless to anyone who wasn't Vince MacMahon.

Greenberg and Bedol went on to create the Classic Sports Network and College Sports TV, which they later sold to ESPN and CBS for 175 million and 325 million respectively, and Eric Bischoff went off to create reality TV shows until Dixie Carter and Hulk Hogan lured him to TNA.

I ran across a similar 'what-if' a couple of months ago, that had to do with D-Generation X's invasion of WCW. You can find it here http://www.wrestlecrap.com/rwtbdx1.html if you want to read it.
 
I actually have a reader who's willing to post. Interesting. I'm working on a massive re-write of this since I kinda got in over my head.

I look forward to seeing any rewrite. I'm not the biggest wrestling fan but it's still fun to watch the old videos and think what if this had happened and to be honest, I'm sick of the product out there these days, I find indie wrestling great for actual wrestling but lacking on story and vice versa for the mainstream such as WWE & TNA
 
I personally would love to see an nWo minus hogan and a huge push for scott hal, anything to stop the downward spiral in his career and life
 

Quatermain

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I personally would love to see an nWo minus hogan and a huge push for scott hal, anything to stop the downward spiral in his career and life

Scott Hall has never lacked for pushes, and second, third, fourth, or fifth chances. His problem is that he has never been able to keep his demons under lock-and-key(or least out of public, which is often settled on as a distant second-best)and him being a liability outstrips how talented he is.
 
Scott Hall has never lacked for pushes, and second, third, fourth, or fifth chances. His problem is that he has never been able to keep his demons under lock-and-key(or least out of public, which is often settled on as a distant second-best)and him being a liability outstrips how talented he is.

then how do we keep his demons under checked if wcw survives and trims its money draining 'old guard'
 

Quatermain

Banned
then how do we keep his demons under checked if wcw survives and trims its money draining 'old guard'

Maybe have him pull a Shawn Michaels, find Jesus, and turn himself around.

Maybe have a new contract drawn up that gives significant bonuses for good behavior and draconian penalties for fucking up.
 
I think we should collaborate on a joint wcw survives timeline and basically live out our fantasies with regards to having ol' wcw compete and not fold.

Anyone willing to post their 'preferred' roster of wcw stars?
 

Quatermain

Banned
I think we should collaborate on a joint wcw survives timeline and basically live out our fantasies with regards to having ol' wcw compete and not fold.

Anyone willing to post their 'preferred' roster of wcw stars?

I'd rather see ECW survive and thrive than see WCW survive. Maybe a timeline where WCW folds, and ECW survives and folds selected remnants of WCW into itself. That'd be sweet sweet victory for Paul Heyman, that's for sure.
 
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I'd rather see ECW survive and thrive than see WCW survive. Maybe a timeline where where WCW folds, and ECW survives and folds selected remnants of WCW into itself. That'd be sweet sweet victory for Paul Heyman, that's for sure.

ECW couldnt survive. Paul Heyman was THE booker that everyone needed but as a businessman.. he was a failure even the ECW legends have said so, he was great at making ECW what it was but he just couldnt make money from ECW and ended up owing stars so much money
 
But then again having an Alt ECW survive maybe as part of a WCW merge but retains its right to do whatever it wants and effectively not having it become the ECW it did
 

Quatermain

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ECW couldnt survive. Paul Heyman was THE booker that everyone needed but as a businessman.. he was a failure even the ECW legends have said so, he was great at making ECW what it was but he just couldnt make money from ECW and ended up owing stars so much money

There's your POD. Have Heyman bring in a business partner, and retain creative control and do the booking. You'd probably end up with a situation roughly analogous to the one they have now in TNA, where Dixie Carter runs the business, and Bischoff and Hogan(among others)provide the wrestling experience.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but a good scenario where ECW survives and folds in WCW can be found here:
http://www.wrestlecrap.com/rwtbdx1.html
 
There's your POD. Have Heyman bring in a business partner, and retain creative control and do the booking. You'd probably end up with a situation roughly analogous to the one they have now in TNA, where Dixie Carter runs the business, and Bischoff and Hogan(among others)provide the wrestling experience.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but a good scenario where ECW survives and folds in WCW can be found here:
http://www.wrestlecrap.com/rwtbdx1.html

Bischoff himself wasn't the best businessman or booker, he was equally as bad as he was good. And Hogan should stay away from everything. He was my first experience of knowing what wrestling was but I just found him during his WCW time to be very 'I AM THE STAR'

and to be honest, the more wrestling promotions there are the better, look at Ring of Honor, how may wrestlers have they produced lately and in the past few years that we know or how many have been on ROH whilst being with TNA? To me RoH is a 'less 'extreme' version of TNA but a wrestling show that shows actual wrestling despite its storylines lacking in drama.

I checked that link first time, and still reading :D its really good insight into the mistakes wcw made.

But deep down I still want WCW to survive rather than ECW.

One question for Hash and everyone else. How would YOU all have done the nWo storyline?
 

Quatermain

Banned
One question for Hash and everyone else. How would YOU all have done the nWo storyline?

I definitely would have avoided the Fingerpoke of Doom. Maybe have Nash and the Wolfpac run Hogan and the Hollywood faction out of WCW "for good." Or if you want to run with the re-united NWO storyline, set up Sting and Goldberg to oppose them, and maybe have Lex Luger or Bret Hart join them.

I'd also have avoided the whole embarassing David Arquette: World Champion storyline.
 

Hashasheen

Banned
I look forward to seeing any rewrite. I'm not the biggest wrestling fan but it's still fun to watch the old videos and think what if this had happened and to be honest, I'm sick of the product out there these days, I find indie wrestling great for actual wrestling but lacking on story and vice versa for the mainstream such as WWE & TNA
I'm working it out, should have the rewrite ready within a few days to begin working.

Bischoff himself wasn't the best businessman or booker, he was equally as bad as he was good.
The man had 2 good years out of 20 in the business, and he had those two by buying out every star in WWF with Ted Turner's money. He was hardly the best businessman/booker WCW ever had.

One question for Hash and everyone else. How would YOU all have done the nWo storyline?
.... :D

I would have kept it the same until Starrcade.
Malenko goes over Eddie for the Cruiser-weight title.
Scott Norton, Konnan, and Vincent go over The Steiners and Ray Traylor when Scott Steiner attacks Ray Traylor and joins the nWo, leaving his brother to get pinned.
Bill Goldberg squashes Steve McMichael
The Giant defeats Randy Savage, a substitute for Kevin Nash
Buff Bagwell is defeated by Lex Luger
DDP pins Curt Hennig for the United States title
Eric Bischoff loses to Larry Zybysko

And here comes the main-event:

Sting comes down from the roof to do battle with Hogan, when suddenly every single WCW wrestler in the crowds watching the show (of which there were many), go into the ring area and act as a wall against any potential nWo attacks. Hogan isn't getting out of this one, and he gets completely buried by Sting and loses the title cleanly as nWo stage a mass assault that gets blocked by the WCW wrestlers already infront of the ring and reinforcements from the back that block off any escape for the nWo and join the beatdown.

The WCW fans and wrestlers go crazy when Sting wins, with Lex Luger being the first to enter the ring to celebrate with Sting.

But Sting doesn't celebrate with them, and instead leaves. Everyone is confused, and Lex Luger has a short feud with Sting after Souled Out. At the same time, the nWo begins to fall apart after Sting's victory, when both Hogan and Hall challenge for the number one contendership, which occurs at Souled Out, where Hogan screws Hall out of the victory by attempting to pin Sting, and is instead pinned by the Icon. Nash and Hall defect with Konnan as the first wave of the Wolfpac to do so, vowing to destroy Hogan's nWo and go on their own form of recruitment. Lex Luger is the first to join, reasoning as the nWo Wolfpac is the best way to take out the nWo Hollywood. Most of the WCW wrestlers diss on Luger, calling him a traitor and such, but a few people do join, such as Stevie Ray (leading to a tear-filled promo of Booker T's separating with his brother and warning both the nWo Hollywood and Wolfpac that should anything happen to his brother, unholy hell would be unleashed upon both of them)., Ric Steiner (seeking vengeance on his brother for his betrayal) and finally Hugh Morrus, a quiet figure who is touched by Lex Luger's speech.
Konnan attempts to recruit some of the cruiserweights, but gets dissed and ambushed by the majority.

The nWo civil war gets spinned off into the newly created Thunder, which becomes the exclusive show for the burgeoning nWo civil war and the creation of their own titles (named after WWF titles), which are fought over by the nWo Wolfpac and Hollywood. [FONT=&quot]

[/FONT]At the same time, Bret Hart begins to chase Sting over the WCW heavyweight title after Souled Out and for five months after as Bret Hart overcomes various loyal WCW wrestlers who feel they deserve the title shot more, with Sting ultimately losing the belt at Great American Bash and heading to Thunder to help finish the job on the nWo, but only wrestling and ambushing by himself. Bret Hart in the mean-time faces Da Man, Goldberg and ultimately loses it to him, while Goldberg remains Champ until the Second War (see below.)

Eddie goes straight for DDP's US Championship, harassing his wife, being a general nuisance in none-title matches and winning a number-one contender's match against him and ultimately wins the title from him, sending DDP up and elsewhere. Other general storylines occur, but they're not going to be mentioned here.

Now as for the civil war and how it affects WCW...

Now, the nWo civil war will be a vehicle for Scott Steiner's rise to the main event.

Scott Steiner top heel build up: In a pivotal moment of the nWo civil war, both Randy Savage and Hollywood Hogan are taken out by the Wolfpac, and everyone believes that this will be the end of Hollywood. But Steiner takes control of Hollywood and rallies the troops against the Wolfpac, and becomes de-facto leader. When Randy and Hogan return, the faction has turned to Scott, a tough but fair leader instead of either of them. The faction turns on Randy and Hollywood soon after their return and acclaim Steiner as their leader deriding Randy and Hogan and calling them washed up glory hogs, and this is when Randy Savage turns face and goes to Nitro. At the same time (Hall might be gotten rid off), Steiner issues a challenge to Nash, in a one on one against Nash at a PPV in a best of 3 series, with the winning leader unifying both factions under his control.

Now in 1999, Steiner is now the top heel in the entire promotion, and re-declares the war with WCW, in what is titled as The Second War. Champion versus Champion across the two brands for every championship and it is bid as the highest stakes of them all, to be done at 1999 Bash at the Beach, where WCW pins their opponents in 3 out of five matches and absorbs nWo as a subsidiary company and finally ends the 3/4 year storyline.
 
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