The Revolution comes to London

I love this Scottish obssession in this thread. A wee bit of a misunderstanding about the events of the '45 methinks.

I wonder where the Earl of Bute was from.

Here, here!

Every time someone refers to "the Scottish nationalist uprising in 1745", my eyes bulge, my breathing turns shallow, and my hands make strangling actions. Long live Scotland, long live the Union, etcetera!

In all seriousness, it is to be noted that the highland regiments as they are today gained much of their elite reputation in America and a disproportianate number of redcoat officers were Scots. Since '45, Scotland had been transformed into the main bastion of loyalism in the kingdom and would actually have resisted American occupation harder than anyone else.

It seems that the dispute in this arrises from whether it is about an American conquest, which is politically and militarily impossible, or a kingdom-wide revolution on both shores of the Atlantic. That second one is a cool idea, but we need a POD way back in the 17th century to make it work, methinks. That of course introduces butterflies to Europe, so really we're talking about a differant timeline altogether.
 

Baskilisk

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Instead you get me, telling you that this is ridiculous.
The American revolutions' whole point is that America deserved national-self-determination and was too far away to be ruled from London, the Revolution even spreading there proves the revolutionaries wrong.
The US Revolutionaries had no means short of a foreign power to actually get to Britain, and what's the advantage of opening up another front?
The US revolutionaries did not want to go to Britain, nor could they.

Forget Rule Brittania - Long Live Reason.
I think what the poster means is the revolution spreading with the egalatarian goals like it did in America, only all over the Empire. 'Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness' become more important in Britain, like if George III was more tyrannical. Or if somehow you had a Tory PM and a Louis XVI-style British king. Or a Cromwell archetype comes up. But any revolution in England would get rid of this problem quickly.
And I'm sure this has little to do with Rule Britannia. People on this site sure do love their Harry Turtledove.
 
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